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China Southern Quit Africa  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

China Southern have pulled out of Lagos, wont be surprise dif they return as did Hainan to Dubai and Luanda in November after sevral months of suspension, CZ had also announced intentions for Cairo in 2006 and confirmed plans for Luanda from Guangzhou via Dubai in 2007 but neither took off.

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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Do they operate to JNB via MLE?


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User currently offlineSeansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 853 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3187 times:



Quoting Soups (Reply 1):
Do they operate to JNB via MLE?

This was China Eastern if i remember correctly.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2159 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Very hard to make a long, multi-stop flight like this 2 or 3 times a week. They were probably losing lots of money on the DXB-LOS sector.

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3051 times:
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As far as I can understand, the route was more for political purposes than revenue, I understand China has a vested interest in certain parts of Africa, hence the flights.

I guess the losses were too much to bear, more so than political requirements.



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User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2969 times:



Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 2):
This was China Eastern if i remember correctly.

That is correct,

But they sadly ended the service during August.

Leo  Smile



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2552 times:



Quoting AF022 (Reply 3):
Very hard to make a long, multi-stop flight like this 2 or 3 times a week. They were probably losing lots of money on the DXB-LOS sector.

It was routed Beijing-Dubai-Lagos with A332.


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Slightly off topic but where do they use their 777s besides LAX?
If they pull out of Africa, that will open a few widebodies. Which ones?
and...

I notice that several Chinese carriers use DXB as their stop before Africa. Is this part of an agreement? Is it 5th freedom or what?



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17420 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 6):
It was routed Beijing-Dubai-Lagos with A332.

It's odd that the carrier with CAN as a hub routes the African flight out of PEK, when CAN has an incredible amount of demand to Africa. In fact CANLOS alone is about twice the size of CANPEK. Granted CAN<>Africa is probably mostly Africa point of sale and slightly less premium than PEK, it's still a major hub for CZ.

[Edited 2009-01-09 08:06:08]


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2178 times:

CZ also operate Tehran out of Beijing.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 7):
I notice that several Chinese carriers use DXB as their stop before Africa

Only CZ and Hainan, while Air China DXB-Athens is now rouetd as Paris-Athens, Dubai is a terminator.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 7):
Slightly off topic but where do they use their 777s besides LAX?

Dubai, Amsterdam, Paris I know of.


User currently offlineCarnoc From China, joined Oct 2001, 875 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

I won't be surprised to see China Southern pulling out of more overseas markets over the next year or so as even the airline's new chairman is terribly worried about the outlook next year according to http://en.carnoc.com/list/9/9757.html

Regards.


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

If they pull out of Africa, can they use the plane to start the DTW flight?


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