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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Hello,

I know this has been discussed in this thread a little over 6 months ago > DFW#ID4036165" target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...archid=4036165&s=KLM+DFW#ID4036165

But I would like to know how the KLM flight to AMS is doing from DFW, based on somebody who may have information on PAX/Load Factors, RASMs, CASMs, etc. The route was launched last March thanks to the Open Skies agreement, but I know that the flight was reduced from daily to 5X weekly due to the economy plus the slower winter season.

My suspicions (no longer live in DFW area) are that that the flight is probably not doing too well. However, I think that some times it takes a little while and perhaps maybe a little more aggressive marketing to warm up the market. Any thoughts?


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User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1860 times:



Quoting IrishAyes (Thread starter):
The route was launched last March thanks to the Open Skies agreement,

The Netherlands was among the first to establish open skies with the US many, many years ago, so that doesn't have anything to do with the new KL flight.

Other recent discussions on here buried within other threads suggest KL is holding it's own on the route, doing pretty well, and actually collects a surprising amount of connecting traffic at DFW to boot, despite not having any relationship with AA.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5143 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

I don't know how much it contributes but I believe that there are still quite a few Delta Skymilers up there in North Texas which help out those Korean and KLM flights.


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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1682 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1618 times:

For the 1st 4 flights as from tomorrow, with loads of over 50%, I would say this is not bad for this time of the year  Smile

Tomorrow's flight with 251 seats is doing 230 A-D and 204 D-A, for instance...



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6432 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1604 times:



Quoting Breaker1011 (Reply 1):
Other recent discussions on here buried within other threads suggest KL is holding it's own on the route, doing pretty well, and actually collects a surprising amount of connecting traffic at DFW to boot, despite not having any relationship with AA.

I would wager that it collects a very significant amount of connecting traffic in AMS for this flight. Don't forget that AMS is one of the worlds leading hubs.


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