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Midwest Connect Surpasses Midwest For First Time  
User currently offlineJettaKnight From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 195 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

No surprise, given the contracted flying by Republic, but the statistics now make it official:

http://www.jsonline.com/business/37143359.html

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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2947 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

November wasn't even Republic at full strength as a few of the last E170's came on line during November. So stats for December going forward will be even more Midwest Connect.

When E170's come under Midwest's operating certificate in several months*...something they are actively preparing for but is not a certainty...then those will be counted as "Midwest" instead of "Midwest Connect" and the balance will tip the other way again.

*As has been discussed previously, Midwest has a contract with Republic to optionally sub-lease twelve E170's and operate them under the Midwest certificate with full Midwest crews, dispatch, etc. This option must be exercised in the next 18 months. Two obvious hurdles to this (1) There is question on how Republic will structure this to avoid being in vilolation of their own pilot contract (2) Midwest has yet to work out modified contracts with their own pilot and inflight groups to fly the E170s.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2459 times:
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Usually an airline has a connection carrier to complement its route structure, not dominate it.


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2440 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
Usually an airline has a connection carrier to complement its route structure, not dominate it.

yeah but when said "airline" is fighting to stay alive, all that goes out the window. I'm sure management's opinion is, if Republic with their smaller jets can keep the Midwest brand alive, so be it.


User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2354 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
Usually an airline has a connection carrier to complement its route structure, not dominate it.

Not by number of passengers but both DL and UA have more flights on the regional side than mainline the last time I checked and UA is in the process of giving more flights to UAX.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2342 times:



Quoting DurangoMac (Reply 4):
UA is in the process of giving more flights to UAX.

That should come as no surprise there. There basically is no UA anymore, just UA Express.



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User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2947 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

As for MIdwest, until just a handful of years ago their system was mostly 60-seat and 84-seat DC9's, with a handful of 112-116 seat M80's mixed in. More recently it was primarily 88-seat 717's. The 76-seat E170 fits right into their traditional "mainline" route system, and assuming they can overcome a couple key obstacles they will be the backbone of Midwest's own fleet in 10-15 months or so.

The E-jets are really only "regional" in terms of who mostly flies them, and that's generally due to the management - pilots union dance. From the customer experience and aircraft stats, the E170/175/190 line is essentially mainline.


User currently onlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5154 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

When you factor in MCI, does Connect still out-carry mainline YX systemwide? The article mentions MKE only.


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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2138 times:



Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 7):
When you factor in MCI, does Connect still out-carry mainline YX systemwide? The article mentions MKE only.

Midwest has 9 aircraft total.

Midwest Connect as 24 total ... 12 E-170s (RW) and 12 CRJs (OO)

That should be self explanatory.



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User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

nine aircraft to zero soon. YX will be a virtual airline. I will believe the Republic flying coming in house when it gets there. Lets just say I am skeptical at best.

Mark in MKE



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