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Malaysian Aviation Thread 8  
User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 16919 times:

New year, new hope, new spirit.

Selamat Datang to the 8th instalment of the Malaysian Aviation Thread, a place where I hope, could be a nice discussion space over the net about aviation developments in Malaysia.


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The last Malaysian Aviation Thread (Thread 7) was up and running until 20 September 2008 before eventually being locked down due to inactivity. I was having a problem to commit to the thread at that time, which saw the absence of the series for more than 3 months from the forum.

Although I would love to keep up with the format I previously used as a thread starter, where a structured summary of the aviation happenings will be showcased, I guess it will be pointless for me to do so for Thread 7 as all the news are no more current.

Nevertheless, the previous Malaysian Aviation Threads can be found in the following links:
Malaysian Aviation Thread 7
Malaysian Aviation Thread 6
Malaysian Aviation Thread 5
Malaysian Aviation Thread 4
Malaysian Aviation Thread 3
Malaysian Aviation Thread 2
Malaysian Aviation Thread

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User currently offlineMAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2936 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 16894 times:

Good to see this thread back....

shall we start with some positives for 2009...

I gather MAS is possibly returning to Darwin as the new 737-8H6s begin to arrive.

Already covered in other threads...

MAS is retiming KUL-ARN-EWR whilst maintaining the 744 equipment. New departure times seem much better suited for connections at all 3 stations.

MAS increases flights to FRA and FCO by an additional 772 service to each city.
LHR returns to double daily 744 after a short hiatus.
Over at LAX - MAS should increase its flights back to 6 weekly hopefully - is anyone able to confirm this?
Heading further South - MAS has revealed plans to increase KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE to 3 times weekly.

Of course - the hot news of AirAsia launching flights to London-Stansted this March is much awaited. Using an ex-Air Canada A343 - the non-stop flight was launched with much fanfare and advertising in both countries and also in Australia and seems to be very popular given the number of seats already sold.

Other airlines operating into Malaysia...

Thai Airways is to fly the A346 on certain flights between BKK-KUL - a nice change from the usual 333 and 772.

Singapore Airlines continues to streamline its operations at KUL since the introduction of SilkAir and the deregulation of the KL-Singapore route. SQ/MI now offer many more flights throughout each day. MH/SQ/MI now code-share across their KL-SIN shuttle timetables.

KLM introduces the 77W to KUL en route to CGK - which should improve the inflight offerings to passengers especially those travelling in Economy with PTVs now available throughout the aircraft.

Am sure there is a lot of other news out there.. but hope this gets this thread 'started'...


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 16873 times:

If I may add, MH will receive a couple of B738 on a lease basis later on this year, before their 35 owned B738s coming into the active fleet beginning September 2010. Apart from the reopening of DRW, the B738 is also rumoured to be deployed to PER, replacing the current 2 weekly A333 service into 4 weekly B738 service along with a daily B772 and also to HYD, replacing the current A332, which proved to be too big for the route.

On SQ/MI/MH codeshare flights on the KUL-SIN sector, the 3 airlines are now having a combined 15 daily flights between the 2 cities with a ratio of 4 SQ (all B772): 4 MI (all A320): 7 MH (all B734). However, the enty of MI has resulted in SQ flights being reduced rather drastically, from 8 daily B772 flights down to 4 daily on weekdays and only 2 daily during weekends.

The biggest, and probably the most shocking news at the moment is the approval of the new Low Cost Airport for AirAsia and Malaysian giant conglomerate - Sime Darby, by the Malaysian government in Labu, Negeri Sembilan this week. The site of the new airport is only 7 km away from KUL. After having the twin towers, Malaysia is now gearing for a twin airports.

At the same time, Malaysia Airport Holding Berhad (MAHB) finally came out with their owned permanent LCCT plan within the KUL complex area (note that the current LCCT is deemed temporary structure since day 1 of its operation). It looks like both the AirAsia/Sime Darby new LCC Airport in Labu and the MAHB LCCT in KUL will be built simultaneously. This development will futher demise KUL's hope of becoming a respectable hub along with BKK and SIN, as a huge chunk of KUL's passengers traffic, which is significantly contributed by AirAsia will be channelled into a new airport by 2011.


User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 16847 times:

Any more information on the possible re-opening of DRW and 738s to PER? What is the inflight product (esp IFE) going to be on the 737s?

User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 16820 times:

Based on the information I gathered from a local aviation site, the deployment of MH's B738 to DRW and PER are almost confirm. MH has yet to reveal any concept for the B738 cabin but there is a rumour going around that it will be configured with 16 Business Class seats and around 150 Economy class seats, which is a standard configuration for B738s.

As for the fittings, since MASwings and Firefly, both are MH's subsidiaries, equipped their brand new ATR 72-500 aircrafts with leather seats, I guess MH will follow suit. MASwings and Firefly's ATR72-500 are also equipped with drop down LCD screens, although these 2 little airlines don't offer IFE on their flights (MASwings is serving the rural areas in Malaysian Borneo, while Firefly is a community airline serving short haul routes from its base in PEN and SZB. Both operate only turboprop aircrafts).


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MASwings' cabin interior (left) and Firefly's cabin interior (right). I really hope MH will install PTV at all seats in their new B738s and offer IFE too.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 16771 times:



Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 2):
The biggest, and probably the most shocking news at the moment is the approval of the new Low Cost Airport for AirAsia and Malaysian giant conglomerate - Sime Darby, by the Malaysian government in Labu, Negeri Sembilan this week. The site of the new airport is only 7 km away from KUL. After having the twin towers, Malaysia is now gearing for a twin airports.

Shocking indeed. Signs that the government has failed to keep pace with the demands of Air Asia with the LCCT, which is presently used only as a temporary measure while more feet dragging is in place to decide a more permanent location within the grounds on KLIA.

I believe in the latest development, MAHB has come forward to say they will go ahead with developing a permanent LCCT in KLIA, probably a knee-jerk reaction to the Labu project being approved. Perhaps Air Asia and Sime Darby was playing reverse psychology here and MAHB took the bite.

Whatever it is, it is no wonder KLIA is still the basket case it is after 10 years in operation going from nowhere to nowhere with such inwardly looking leaders at the helm.



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User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1271 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 16764 times:



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 5):
The biggest, and probably the most shocking news at the moment is the approval of the new Low Cost Airport for AirAsia and Malaysian giant conglomerate - Sime Darby, by the Malaysian government in Labu, Negeri Sembilan this week. The site of the new airport is only 7 km away from KUL. After having the twin towers, Malaysia is now gearing for a twin airports.

I really hope this project doesn't go through.
KLIA is a great airport but without Air Asia it will be rather deserted. Now I understand that Air Asia is a commercial entity and that they think about their bottomline first and foremost and so they should but Air Asia has revitalised KLIA so I really hope they can find a way to accommodate them.

Built a lowcost terminal according to their wishes and let the airport train connect to such a terminal. Its the right time now to build a railway anyway with prices for raw material starting to go down. Was it Siemens that assisted with the airtrain the previous time?

Does anyone have any pictures or links to pictures from KK:s new terminal.



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 16759 times:



Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 6):
I really hope this project doesn't go through.
KLIA is a great airport but without Air Asia it will be rather deserted. Now I understand that Air Asia is a commercial entity and that they think about their bottomline first and foremost and so they should but Air Asia has revitalised KLIA so I really hope they can find a way to accommodate them.

I hope it doesn't too... BUT the 2 sites that was earmarked for further terminal contruction in KLIA became duds. First one has bad soil, not suitable for building. The other site is rendered unuseable because the nearby ERL's rail lines were built a few centimeters "too high"... whatever that means. So now it makes you wonder, where the hell did all the planning go to in the beginning stages? Didn't they anticipate these issues?



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 16715 times:

Since there are news articles everywhere saying that the government has approved the new LCC airport in Labu project, it is very interesting to follow this issue.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 6):
Does anyone have any pictures or links to pictures from KK:s new terminal.

Here is a thread for BKI in skyscrapercity.com http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=465525 Ryanair!!! also visited Kota Kinabalu recently and you can read his latest trip report in the Trip Report subforum.


User currently offline9mmpd From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 16627 times:



Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 4):
Based on the information I gathered from a local aviation site, the deployment of MH's B738 to DRW and PER are almost confirm.

Can a fully laden 738 make PER - KUL especially during the Southern Hempishere winter? I once flew this leg and due to strong winds and congestion at KLIA my flight time was close to 6 and a half hours on a 777.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16480 times:

Does ILFC leased MASkargo A300-600 wear MH livery?

User currently offlineMAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2936 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 16426 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
Does ILFC leased MASkargo A300-600 wear MH livery?

yes... with blue engine cowlings if i remember correctly


User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2157 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16372 times:



Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 2):
The biggest, and probably the most shocking news at the moment is the approval of the new Low Cost Airport for AirAsia and Malaysian giant conglomerate - Sime Darby, by the Malaysian government in Labu, Negeri Sembilan this week. The site of the new airport is only 7 km away from KUL. After having the twin towers, Malaysia is now gearing for a twin airports.

This seems like a very risky move as the new airport will surely be largely dependent on AirAsia's operations. What happens if the airline goes bust or greatly reduces flights due to economic circumstances? My understanding is that most LCC airports usually have other aviation operations to justify their existence (military/freight/business & general aviation/etc).



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16149 times:


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Quoting MAS777 (Reply 11):
Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
Does ILFC leased MASkargo A300-600 wear MH livery?

yes... with blue engine cowlings if i remember correctly

Its Air Atlanta, full livery would have been better.


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 15911 times:

The majority Malaysian public is not in favour of the new airport in Labu, including myself. I stand before the facts that KUL is underutilised, the new airport is just 7 km away from KUL - an absurd fact, the new airport is seen as a political agenda - something that the current Prime Minister (Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi) wanted to leave as his legacy before stepping down in March 2009, the whole Labu airport involve some fishy arrangements to benefit the cronies of the Prime Minister - Malaysia has never been in such a disasterous corruption state in the eyes of the public before his administration etc.

AirAsia mentioned that the new airport will be a completely privately funded project. Ok, but what about the road leading to the new airport? There will be a new dedicated electrified train line direct from KL Sentral to the new airport proposed by KTMB (Malaysian Railway company). All this is not privately funded. Tax monies will be used to build these. I am so sure that the cost to build a permanent LCC terminal in KUL, where everything has been ready, is so much lower than the cost of setting up the facilities and infrastructures at the new Labu Airport. It is very ridiculous that this Labu Airport project got approval from the government.

And yesterday, the current LCCT in KUL was under fire or maybe burnt down, who knows. That should speed up the Labu Airport project I think.

MAHB is to be blamed too. For failing to anticipate AirAsia's growth and to facilitate the LCC's expansion. Someone should be fired because of the loss of future business opportunities from AirAsia but then again, this is not the case in Malaysia.

p/s In Bahasa Malaysia, 'Labu' means pumpkin.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15871 times:

Someone just suggested to me that MAHB could be deliberately impeding AK's growth so that MH can flourish. While purely anecdotal, why am I not surprised by this insinuation?


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User currently offlineMillwallSean From Singapore, joined Apr 2008, 1271 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15815 times:



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 19):
Someone just suggested to me that MAHB could be deliberately impeding AK's growth so that MH can flourish. While purely anecdotal, why am I not surprised by this insinuation?

The amount of new airports/terminals that have been built in Malaysia the last 10,15 years is impressive and not many other countries can show something similar. I am surprised that MAHB cant seem to agree with one of their most important tenants and have them running of to one of Malaysia's biggest corporations for a new airport. That situation does imply that everything isn't rosy between Air Asia and MAHB.
MAHB have been involved in a few rather weird decisions, the idea of building a new lowcost terminal for Air Asia in KK and then telling them they have to move back to the original terminal about 3 years after the lowcost terminal is finished does make you wonder about some of the plans.

In MAHB defense I must say that they did react fairly quickly and readied a lowcost terminal at KLIA for Air Asia when they asked in 2005.
The lowcost terminal at KLIA might be temporary, but its not bad for a lowcost terminal at all. Anyone thats been to Beauvais, Weese or Luton for example will be pretty impressed with it. It also compares well to Singapores new lowcost terminal.



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User currently offlineHuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15779 times:

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 20):
In MAHB defense I must say that they did react fairly quickly and readied a lowcost terminal at KLIA for Air Asia when they asked in 2005.
The lowcost terminal at KLIA might be temporary, but its not bad for a lowcost terminal at all. Anyone thats been to Beauvais, Weese or Luton for example will be pretty impressed with it. It also compares well to Singapores new lowcost terminal.

Some Malaysian elements will get things moving in double quick time when a similar facility is built in...Singapore.  I bet yar if Changi suddenly announces plans to build a full LCC Terminal as big as any of its three main terminals, the KLIA equivalent will suddenly pop up and be finished a few days before the Singapore one completes!

My comment may be tongue-in-cheek, but unfortunately, it does reflect a certain mentality which is far from being progressive. Rushing to finish a terminal just to earn publicity points, and then realising it was not exactly right for its main tenant's interests only serves to waste plenty of public money and expose the workings of an administration which has yet to get its act together.

Like many individuals here, I fail to see the feasibility of building another smallish airport beside a huge, underutilised one, just for one airline. It is not good news for travellers, who are subjected to greater inconveniences transferring between the two airports, and the purported time saved from travelling between the airport and KL itself is not significant to be of any major benefit. 30mins is exactly the same time it took me to travel from KL to KLIA by car, so I am left wondering just how the maths was done.

By all means, return to the old Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport if additional space is required immediately.

[Edited 2009-01-09 02:29:55]


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19239 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 15768 times:

Looking forward to returning to KUL in June.


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User currently offlineMAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2936 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15629 times:



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 19):
Someone just suggested to me that MAHB could be deliberately impeding AK's growth so that MH can flourish. While purely anecdotal, why am I not surprised by this insinuation?

It wouldn't surprise many i expect..

What MAHB and MAS both forget is that AirAsia has played such a vital role in adding to both their growths too.. so i can see AirAsia's frustration.

The simplest solution (to me anyway - although i completely hold my hands up as not being an expert nor having suitable information... but hey - this is "armchair aviation... lol"...) was to have...

1. built the second satellite (or Pier D) from the start - which could have been designed without aerobridges for Air Asia to utilise and MAHB, KL Express and passengers generally would have benefitted from this. This would have seen passengers numbers at KLIA grow "in synergy" for AK, MH and other airlines operating there. KL Express would have made a fortune from passengers wishing to fly AirAsia and KL Sentral would really be the City Hub it should be.

(nb...Chek Lap Kok uses a design concept similar to this - where passengers arriving at CLK on the Airport Express train exit one way for Low-Cost and another for Full-service).

2. As AirAsia grew - a second proper (Lo-Cost) Terminal could have then been built "properly" to cater for the additional Check-in/Baggage Reclaim space that AirAsia needed. This plan would have then incorporated adequate links (KL Express extension, KLIA Aerotrain or road or tunnels or whatever most appropriate).

3. MAHB would (if this had been done) now have the 'flexible option' of continuing to use Pier D (the second Satellite) for AirAsia or convert it to another Full Service Pier by building a nice little Aerotrain link between 'Pier D' and the current 'Pier C (Satellite Terminal)'...

oh well - but who knows what really goes on at MAHB, the Malaysian govt's plans/pockets..etc... lol


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15616 times:

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 20):
The amount of new airports/terminals that have been built in Malaysia the last 10,15 years is impressive and not many other countries can show something similar. I am surprised that MAHB cant seem to agree with one of their most important tenants and have them running of to one of Malaysia's biggest corporations for a new airport. That situation does imply that everything isn't rosy between Air Asia and MAHB.
MAHB have been involved in a few rather weird decisions, the idea of building a new lowcost terminal for Air Asia in KK and then telling them they have to move back to the original terminal about 3 years after the lowcost terminal is finished does make you wonder about some of the plans.

Yes, it seems that every little village in Malaysia nowadays want to have their own international airport. I think the relationship between AK and MAHB hit bottom low when AK refused to pay some amount of airport charges to MAHB, the dispute was over the rate charged by MAHB. The last news article published sometimes ago reported that AK owed MAHB some MYR 160 million of airport related charges, to which AK denied and informed that their due is only some MYR 60 million. I am not sure who is telling the truth.

MAHB really reflected the current Malaysian government. If you go through a post by the former Prime Minister in his blog, www.chedet.cc the term 'flip flop' is used to refer to the current government.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 20):
In MAHB defense I must say that they did react fairly quickly and readied a lowcost terminal at KLIA for Air Asia when they asked in 2005. The lowcost terminal at KLIA might be temporary, but its not bad for a lowcost terminal at all. Anyone thats been to Beauvais, Weese or Luton for example will be pretty impressed with it. It also compares well to Singapores new lowcost terminal.

MAHB have no defense whatsoever. The initial LCCT project, which were completed in a fast track basis back in 2005, and only took 10 months to complete was derived after much political inteferences AK lobied for earlier on (and also contributed by the kiasuness to complete the LCCT earlier than the one in SIN although the Budget Terminal in SIN started construction first). MAHB is the real sloth here, action and thinking wise. Period.

Quoting Huaiwei (Reply 21):
Some Malaysian elements will get things moving in double quick time when a similar facility is built in...Singapore. I bet yar if Changi suddenly announces plans to build a full LCC Terminal as big as any of its three main terminals, the KLIA equivalent will suddenly pop up and be finished a few days before the Singapore one completes!

That's so true. But on second thought, maybe not, because the current government is approaching Singapore in a very peaceful manner, unlike the former administration. No more cases of stealing major contracts from Singapore Port, Crooked Bridge got cancelled, Pulau Batu Putih (Pedra Blanca) 'surrendered' to Singapore without much fuss at the International Court etc.

Quoting Huaiwei (Reply 21):
My comment may be tongue-in-cheek, but unfortunately, it does reflect a certain mentality which is far from being progressive. Rushing to finish a terminal just to earn publicity points, and then realising it was not exactly right for its main tenant's interests only serves to waste plenty of public money and expose the workings of an administration which has yet to get its act together.

And although the current administration has yet to get its act together, Malaysia will be welcoming her 6th Prime Minister in March 2009 and a new administration is on its way. Maybe the new Premier will build another airport, the 5th in the Klang Valley, in between KUL and the proposed Labu Airport as his legacy too, using 'to stimulate economic activities/growth in the area and create more jobs while helping the poor' as an excuse.

Quoting Huaiwei (Reply 21):
By all means, return to the old Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport if additional space is required immediately.

The then KUL (now SZB) was closed and the former international terminal (Terminal 1) was torn down immediately back in 1998, to give way to the current KUL. Since then, SZB has been gazetted as a turboprop airport only for commercial passengers operation. The area is densely populated and it was reported that most of the people living there are not in favour of the noise produced by jet aircrafts. But then again, SZB is also busy with freighter jets and commercial jets from all over the world, which go to the airport's maintenance facilities. These facts are not in line with one another, it makes one wonder why?

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 22):
Looking forward to returning to KUL in June.

Hopefully I will be able to catch you this time around.  

* * * * *

I need to insert some pleasant news after all those comments. So here is one:

Firefly offers flights to Kerteh from Monday

KUALA LUMPUR, Fri :Firefly will launch its first flight to Kerteh, Terengganu, on Jan 12 as part of efforts to further expand its domestic network. The country’s community airline in a statement said the new twice-daily flight to Kerteh is the second destination served in the state after Kuala Terengganu. “This route is Firefly’s commitment in providing alternative, affordable travel for all Malaysians,” it said.

It said Firefly’s “Totally Un-Fare” campaign, continues with its daily low fares offerings, with 112,251 seats left as of Jan 6. From as low as RM53 for all domestic flights, the fares are available for bookings from Jan 8-15 for the travel period from Jan 15 to April 30.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/N.../20090109173757/Article/index_html

Firefly is a MH's subsidiary with hubs in PEN and SZB. The airline operates an all turboprop fleet of 5 brand new ATR 72-500s (9M-FYA, FYB, FYC, FYD and FYE). All their former F50s have been withdrawn entirely from the active fleet. Kerteh (KTE/WMKE) is Malaysia's foremost petroleum city, where Petronas based most of its refineries and petrochemical processing facilities in Peninsular Malaysia.

[Edited 2009-01-09 11:50:54]

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19239 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 15596 times:



Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 24):
Hopefully I will be able to catch you this time around.

Would be good, but sadly we're just using KUL to connect to and from SIN.



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4756 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 15081 times:

Now with Air Asia's KLIA East @ Labu project and MAHB's LCCT going ahead, won't there be a sudden jump in passenger capacity?


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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14676 times:

MH will not reinstated DRW. Special thanks to reyneo of MW.

1) Config is out for the MAS B737-800:

-J Class will have 4 rows x (2x2) seats = 16 seats
-Y Class will be 3x3 config with a total of 25 rows and 136 book-able seats* (first row to have seats C/D missing, exit rows 15&16 to have A/F missing, last 2 rows to have missing/un-bookable seats)
* based on normal 3x3 cabin layout with 25 rows, it should have 144 seats built in, but some seats are shown as unavailable. Based on the above info, the seat pitch is actually slightly lesser than the standard.


2) MAS has quietly cancelled Darwin!

As of 9 Jan, KUL-DRW, originally scheduled to start on 16 Jun has been cancelled.


3) Routes to be introduced for B738 to be changed to:

Kuala Lumpur - Bangalore from 21JUN09
MH192/193 Day 3567 (21JUN09 - )
Day 2 remains with A330

Kuala Lumpur - Denpasar
MH853/852 Day x2 (30MAR09 - 29MAY09)
MH853/852 Daily (30MAY09 - )

Kuala Lumpur - Hanoi
MH752/753 Day 1 (01JUN09 - )

Kuala Lumpur - Ho Chi Minh
MH750/751 Day x156 (29MAR09 - )
MH758/759 Day 2 (31MAR09 -)

Kuala Lumpur - Kunming
All 4 weekly from 29MAR09

Kuala Lumpur - Shamshabad (Hyderabad)
MH198/199, Day 257 (16JUN09 - )

The above schedule has been updated as of 9 Jan 09. The previous introduction schedule has been replaced with this one instead. All info taken from airlineroutes which gets its info from Amadeus.


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 14311 times:

New from AirAsia.



D7 is launching KUL-Tianjin-KUL. Looks like soon MH's KUL-PEK-KUL will be heavily discounted too. Tianjin is located near Beijing (as Hangzhou to Shanghai).

3 new routes out of Macau. MFM-PEN, MFM-BKI and MFM-KCH (the last 2 are reinstatements). BKI-SBW is also introduced.

D7 is gearing up towards its big day, the inaugural KUL-STN flight on 11 March 2009.

Also there is a link to AirAsia's highly debated proposal of a new LCC airport in Labu.


25 Huaiwei : Interesting read there. Some comments: 1) I am still extremely keen to know just how in the world that ERL Track can present such a major problem for
26 Ryanair!!! : I think by now we can be pretty rest assured that "masterplan" is a word used only to wow the crowd at some convention. But in reality, MAHB is ill p
27 Alianza : Hey, very interesting reading. Are you guys going to be on the inaugural flight to STN ?!! 9MMAR and Ryanair!!!! should get Express Boarding with a co
28 9MMAR : Well, I think Malaysia is always envy with Singapore. After all, the tiny city state was part of our country once. As you know, '2007' was excluded i
29 Huaiwei : And I was also trying to understand just how a single ERL track can throw an entire airport expansion plan into jeapordy. Are the masterplanners inca
30 QF744ER : Where is D7's 1st A343 that was due this month? Rumoured to be ex AC C-GDVZ..
31 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : Yes, from this A.Net photo... View Large View MediumPhoto © Youri Thonon - Contrails Aviation Photography ... it is speculated that Air Canada A
32 Paparadzi : Flip flop it may be, but this one is a good flip flop. A new LCC terminal, YES. A new airport, definitely NO.
33 Pe@rson : Anyone know when MH will again have its ultra-cheap specials? I could have got, say, KUL-PEN for £7.50 one-way all-in; KUL-CGK for £33 one-way all-i
34 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : This promo starts tomorrow (31 January 2009) if you are interested in Malaysia's domestic destinations. Only MYR 39 or GBP 7.80 all in one way to all
35 Pe@rson : That's brilliant! Thanks for the information. See if I could piece together a nice little daytrip starting and finishing in SIN. While I'm posting, wh
36 Post contains images 9MMAR : For flights between KUL and Malaysian Borneo, you'll be given a snackbox in Economy Class, such as this one. The content is vary depending on the fli
37 United Airline : Really? I doubt TG is bigger than SQ
38 United Airline : Besides SIN is a busier hub than BKK I think?
39 MillwallSean : I would say you need to think again hehe. 2008: SIN 37.7 million BKK 38.6 million However the demonstrations affected BKK:s number a lot. On the 31th
40 Swissairtaz : Are the MD11 of Transmile still active? At airfleets.net it says they are still active but i know airfleets is not very accurate. thanks Charles
41 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : MH continue their 'cheap sale' with another promo right after the last one expired. Domestic destinations are put on sale for MYR 50 one way all in f
42 LeftWing : ...nope they are parked..only 737 & 727 are active...
43 Post contains images Ryanair!!! :
44 Huaiwei : LOL!
45 SQ772 : Hahahahaah.....I see you are having a lazy quiet Sat afternoon...
46 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : In keeping with the tradition, when MH launched a 'cheap sale', AK will retaliate with a counter attack 'Free Seats' promotion (and vise versa). Anoth
47 Huaiwei : Typical Tony rhetoric.
48 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : Both MH and D7 leased aircrafts are now on Malaysian soil. View Large View MediumPhoto © Mir Zafriz Photograph is by mohkzani of MW. MH's second
49 Post contains links 9MMAR : Just to share a few news from MH new timetable, 29 March - 24 October 2009: New KUL-TPE-KUL 2 weekly B738 (MH 366 every Tue and Thu) New KUL-DRW-KUL 4
50 9MMAR : Because I think the A333s are only suitable for regional routes of about 4 hours the maximum, regional configured seats in Business Class and no PTV i
51 6thfreedom : I don't think this is proceeding. Suspect timetable was published prior to service being confirmed. The service doesn't appear on the online booking
52 ThaiA345 : What interiors will be fitted in J and Y? Also when will MH start receiving its brand new ones?
53 TristarSteve : It seems that that plan has been dropped now. Crews will layover in EWR.
54 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : Apparently MH is inheriting the XL Airways' interior. Photograph by Mohd Hafiz Nizam of MW onboard 9M-MLC. An all Economy Class seats cabin, with a d
55 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : I think the interior of MH's narrow body aircrafts has been deteriorating. It went from this sophisticated look... View Large View MediumPhoto ©
56 Ryanair!!! : Before we jump the gun to shoot down MH for their decision to maintain this interior, I wonder what does the management have to say about these change
57 9MMAR : A prominent member in MW predicted that the whole thing is for product harmonisation for a future merger with AirAsia. (He is joking btw).
58 777way : MH are drastically reducing Jeddah capacity, how come?
59 9MMAR : Seasonal only I think. JED is currently being served 2 times weekly until 5 Mar 2009, then up to 3 weekly until 1 May and then up to 4 weekly until 21
60 Post contains links and images 9MMAR : MASwings, MH's subsidiary which primarily serve the rural areas in Borneo whose hub is in BKI and MYY, is expecting the delivery of their second ATR 7
61 Traveladdict : Wasn't "Menara MAS" sold a long time ago? Like 2006 or 2007? I also have a question... I'm studying accounting now and I know that if we were to inclu
62 Vincewy : Besides being a regional carrier, what's the prospect of MH and KUL becoming a crossroad between East Asia and Arab world? The number of visitors from
63 ThaiA345 : As someone who always flies J in MH, I really dread getting on board their A333 or B734 in J....I HATE RED !! IT JUST REALLY AGGREVATES ME ....seeee.
64 Ryanair!!! : Pak, one just entered service a few weeks ago and it is leased from XL Airways. The interior is 100% YCL and MH has gone on to employ the European me
65 Post contains links Carnoc : Update: Malaysia Airlines will soon allow its passengers to to use mobile phones and personal digital assistants (PDAs) while on selected flights as p
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