Ualcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13801 times:
This is only a rumor and am posting to see if anyone has confirmation of truth/fiction. There's word floating around among former UA/MIA employees that UA is pulling out of MIA. I thought I'd heard that UA had lost a lawsuit to Miami-Dade County and was obligated to stay here for a while. Again, all here is rumor but would like to know if anyone's heard anything.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 6006 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13697 times:
I haven't heard that rumor I know that in June UA is switching ORD/IAD-MIA to E170s and DEN down to a single daily flights but other then that I haven't heard/seen anything. MIA is actually one of the few business markets in Florida so I doubt they would pull out of MIA completely.
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2099 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13509 times:
I would not be surprised. UA gave up on MIA as the South American base a few years ago and consolidated most of the South American routes at IAD. AA has a hub there and there is tons of competition so switching to UAX service would not be unexpected. LAX is also fraction of its former self for UA, once a major Pacific gateway and alleged hub residing in the shadow of SFO, although I doubt UA would abandon LAX entirely to UAX.
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8425 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13412 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 2): I'd be very surprised if the world's 3rd largest airline simply abandoned South Florida in it's entirety (they already pulled out of FLL and PBI).
How United could abandon ORD to FLL & PBI is beyond comprehension. When oil was $140 a barrell is one thing but with $40 per barrell fuel and the winter there is large demand to these 2 airports. United seems to be alomost abandoning anything on teh east coast short of DCA and LGA flights to ORD, its IAD hub and PS service to JFK.
RwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13355 times:
That would certainly fit with UA's recent business strategy, which is to shrink in every important business market and make no attempt to hold on to their customer base. Although, UA seems to prefer withering down to nothing over time rather than cutting markets all together.
As others have said though, Southern Florida is huge. I don't see how one of the largest airlines in the US could leave the market entirely. I think the more likely scenario is that perhaps CO will eventually take over all groundwork for UA at MIA.
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2505 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13223 times:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 6): United seems to be alomost abandoning anything on teh east coast short of DCA and LGA flights to ORD, its IAD hub and PS service to JFK.
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 9): does seem a little surprising to me as well, but maybe they plan on just going UAX bare bones, and use the US and CO code shares to supplement their service.
This seems like the most plausible explanation. Does anyone *credible* have any insight into UA's 'strategy' (or lack thereof) in South Florida? I'm not familiar with the CO and US presence there, but I'm guessing that if you were to combine UA, CO, and US, their flight ops at MIA still wouldn't come close to AA.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6596 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11066 times:
It looks like this one is true from what I hear. I would expect an anouncement very soon, perhaps already tomorrow.....UA would not pull out completely; just mainline flights and mainline employees. MIA would still be served by UAX.
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
Jamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1016 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 10862 times:
The strategy of UAL Senior Management is to continue to shrink the size of the airline so that a merger with CO will pass muster with a DOJ law judge. Senior management has no intention of running the company for the long-term and it is unlikely that any new product initiatives or innovations will be forthcoming out of 77 W. Wacker Drive. It has become apparent that their sole mission is to shrink, sell, and run...
Sflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10764 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 1): I haven't heard that rumor I know that in June UA is switching ORD/IAD-MIA to E170s and DEN down to a single daily flights but other then that I haven't heard/seen anything.
...but that is what UA did last summer, isn't it? It was, IIRC, 2 IAD/ORD on S5 and 1 UA to DEN on Ted. At the time the story was that all of MIA was Ted and that S5 gave UA the oportunity to add premium service. I guess UA's story this time will be off season, empty planes, blah, blah. I gave up on UA and opted for 1 of the many AA flights last summer. Pitty what UA has done to MIA!
Servisair From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9449 times:
UA will advise the employees in MIA today.
UA Mainline WILL be pulling out of MIA and making the switch to a express station. THIS IS A FACT! As usual, UA screwed up the announcment. Senior management mad a statment in a ORD briefing "before" it was made public and even worse, before the told the MIA employees.
30 Yeras in the Biz...
: Schedule has already been uploaded. Each of the two current A320 flights to ORD and IAD will be downgraded to UX DEN will be only one frequency a day.
: FLL for US is a different type of proposition. IF UA still had a full schedule at FLL then I could buy a MIA reduction but UA is no longer at FLL. MI
: Perhaps if we had access to the advance sales figures for the summer/fall cruise season we might get a better idea of why UA is downgrading MIA. How
: AA has 3 daily flights on the ORD-FLL-ORD route, plus NK operates between ORD and FLL. Also, WN has 5 or 6 daily flights to Midway out of FLL and B6
: UA is now the partner of JJ. They should be getting tons of domestic connections in the morning from them. This is why I do not understand why JJ lef