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Airbus Fined £200,000 Over Unsafe Concorde Steps  
User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5502 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7815875.stm

IIRC, back when it first opened, the center used conventional airport style retractable steps to allow people on and off the exhibit. Might be wrong though.

Anyway, I certainly know there is a proper metal gangway instead since this sad incident.

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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 13501 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5485 times:

Well, they sure made one damn safe concrete wall in TLSBig grin


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User currently offlineNwarooster From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5243 times:
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Quoting Revelation (Reply 1):
Well, they sure made one damn safe concrete wall in TLS

Yes, that A340 made one spectacular last flight.......  old 



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9102 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5058 times:



Quoting Nwarooster (Reply 2):
Yes, that A340 made one spectacular last flight..

First AND last!  stirthepot 



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User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

Any pictures? How unsafe was it to get into the Concorde there?

Airbus was sued because a bloke missed a step in a museum? They give away or lend a unique aircraft to a museum and get sued?


User currently offlineRebelDJ From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4626 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 4):
Airbus was sued because a bloke missed a step in a museum? They give away or lend a unique aircraft to a museum and get sued?

I think you should understand the context of this "museum", because it is situated within the Airbus site at Filton, Bristol. The aircraft is parked on a purpose made hard standing between the (active) runway and the "Brabazon" Hanger where all UK Concordes were built (see http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl...8&spn=0.009667,0.019226&t=h&z=16).
The aircraft may be formally in the museum, but if you were to visit it (there is only one exhibit), you would believe you were visiting Airbus.
They didn't get sued - all credit to the family - they were fined under health and safety legislation. They had failed in thier duty of care, they were found guilty in a court and they were punished.


User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Thanks RebelDJ it makes more sense.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 8304 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

A pity that this guy did not look where he was putting his foot.

User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 4):
Airbus was sued because a bloke missed a step in a museum?

Well, I would call a gap of 80cm (32 inch) at the end of a stair an act of gross negligence.

Axel

[Edited 2009-01-08 06:07:28]


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User currently offlineRB211TriStar From United States of America, joined May 2007, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

That is almost 3ft. Hmm.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 11042 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3222 times:



Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 4):
They give away or lend a unique aircraft to a museum and get sued?

RIP man who fell off the steps and died. This is a most unfortunate accident.

Concorde G-BOAF is still British Airways property.
They are on loan by BA to all the different museums they are in.

She does not belong to Airbus - never that I knew of.

Only the AF Concordes were given for a symbolic French Franc to be put on display in different locations.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13375 posts, RR: 77
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Certainly they had fixed this by the time I was there in April 2007.

I was shocked when this happened, we used to have loads of visitors, when such things were allowed, in the BA hangars where they were maintained.
Never had, thankfully, anything like this.
Then again, they got proper safety briefs, were escorted, perhaps because it was an actual work environment rather than a public museum people were more wary anyway.
(Not that I'm implying anything about the deceased. What's emerged is that serious concerns about safety were not taken up, until too late).


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9602 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2607 times:

Without wishing to belittle the case in point, I wonder how many people banged their heads on boarding while it was in service? In spite of reading beforehand about how common it was, I managed it! D'oh!

User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 13501 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2365 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
She does not belong to Airbus - never that I knew of.

Right, but the point is she is sitting on Airbus's property.



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 8304 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2330 times:

David L

A nice plug, we all now know that you flew on Concorde  Smile


User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 475 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2051 times:
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Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 8):
Well, I would call a gap of 80cm (32 inch) at the end of a stair an act of gross negligence.



Quoting RB211TriStar (Reply 9):
That is almost 3ft. Hmm.

Wow! 3 feet! That's a drop!  Wow!

Atlanta



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User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1969 times:



Quoting Atlanta (Reply 15):
Wow! 3 feet! That's a drop! Wow!

If I'm correct, he means the gap between the steps and the aircraft.


User currently offlineAtlanta From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 475 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1893 times:
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Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 16):

If I'm correct, he means the gap between the steps and the aircraft.

Than that's a jump!  Smile

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User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

If it were London, there would only be a voice telling everyone to "Mind the gap" along with signage, and everything would be okay.

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