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UA Ends Tucson Mainline Service  
User currently offlineAzstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 621 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

UA will be ending its last TUS mainline flight in June. No mainline service allows the company to replace all the employees with lower paid Skywest employees. I think there are about 20 UA employees in Tucson who will lose their jobs. Very sorry to see them go.

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3831 times:



Quoting Azstar (Thread starter):
Very sorry to see them go.

OO does a darn good job at some of their other UA stations... I'm not so sure you'll see a precipitous decline in quality.



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User currently offlineAzstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3784 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1):
OO does a darn good job at some of their other UA stations... I'm not so sure you'll see a precipitous decline in quality

I'm sure that's true, but I fly UA and F9 quite a bit and I've really become quite fond of a couple UA and F9 employees that I see regularly. So, I'll be sorry to not see them when I travel.


User currently offlinePanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

I hope that these employees are at least offered positions elsewhere within the company, or will be hired by OO at lower rates. I know that it's not a fun situation, but right now a job is a job.

User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2932 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

So now, the list of UA stations going all UAX is MIA, TUS, BVT and IND.....in addition to BUR yesterday...

[Edited 2009-01-07 14:16:10]

User currently offlineAirportPlan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3635 times:

Most of this mainline to E170/CRJ700 shuffling at TUS, BTV, MIA, IND and other airports is happening because of the 737s going away. The A319s and A320s that are being pulled from these markets are needed to backfill where 737s are being pull from top business routes such as ORD-DCA/LGA. Unless UA obtains more A319s and A320 the only option for these routes is to use regional partners.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25719 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3616 times:



Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
MIA, TUS, BVT and IND

1 more station to go with today changes

Quoting AirportPlan (Reply 5):
Unless UA obtains more A319s and A320 the only option for these routes is to use regional partners.

UA is in the process of adding additional 70 seats capacity from Mesa, Republic and Skywest so its only natural they will be allocated across the network.



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User currently offlineTrojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

I guess I will be getting a schedule update soon for the UA flight I already booked to TUS in July. LOL. I'm getting used to them by now.

User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2728 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3585 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
UA is in the process of adding additional 70 seats capacity from Mesa, Republic and Skywest so its only natural they will be allocated across the network.

Are they receiving more planes?


User currently offlineTrojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

Scratch that...They already sent me a schedule update!

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3530 times:

Three threads here about UA mainline service ending - MIA (indeed, most of south Florida!), IND, and now TUS. Very sad.

Quote:
UA is in the process of adding additional 70 seats capacity from Mesa, Republic and Skywest so its only natural they will be allocated across the network.



Quote:
Most of this mainline to E170/CRJ700 shuffling at TUS, BTV, MIA, IND and other airports is happening because of the 737s going away. The A319s and A320s that are being pulled from these markets are needed to backfill where 737s are being pull from top business routes such as ORD-DCA/LGA. Unless UA obtains more A319s and A320 the only option for these routes is to use regional partners.

I am very curious as to which planes will be used on the intra-California network between Northern California (SFO, OAK, and SJC), and Southern California (LAX, BUR, ONT, LGB, SNA, and SAN). This is a VERY profitable route network full of business passengers, and UA would get eaten alive if it was downgraded to RJ's - that would literally give WN a license to print money.

Having said that, is UA going to be able to pull enough 757's and A320/319's to fill the gap left by the retiring 737's on the California routes?



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3496 times:



Quoting AirportPlan (Reply 5):

Shoot..ALB receives 1x 733 & 1x319. Will it go?



E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/319/320/321/333
User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3496 times:



Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
UA is in the process of adding additional 70 seats capacity from Mesa, Republic and Skywest so its only natural they will be allocated across the network.

Are they receiving more planes?

I wonder the same thing...how many more CR7's and 170's are coming online in 2009 any 2010? Are and CR2's going away?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25719 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Mesa adding two CRJ-700s, removing 4 CRJ-200s

Republic adding 10 EMB-170s

Skywest adding 18 CRJ-700s, removing 23 EMB-120s



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2813 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
I am very curious as to which planes will be used on the intra-California network between Northern California (SFO, OAK, and SJC), and Southern California (LAX, BUR, ONT, LGB, SNA, and SAN). This is a VERY profitable route network full of business passengers, and UA would get eaten alive if it was downgraded to RJ's - that would literally give WN a license to print money.

SJC/OAK to LAX, SFO-ONT/BUR are already on CRJ-200s. They don't serve LGB. WN dominates SJC/OAK-LAX/SAN/BUR/SNA. The only mainline routes UA operates inta-cal AFAIK are SFO-LAX/SNA/SAN. I think SFO-LAX/SNA/SAN will stay mainline, maybe one or two flights downgraded to CRJ-700s with ExPlus.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

WHAAAA!!! :-/

TUS is/was a great layover. Honestly, I am surprised UA stayed in this long, but still sad to see it go though.


User currently offlineFLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Wow. I know a few of the rampers here at TUS and it'll be a shame to see them go. They were some of the more friendly ones around (especially these days!) Good luck UA guys!

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 15):
TUS is/was a great layover.

I don't hear that one much, but I'm glad you enjoy it! 

[Edited 2009-01-08 12:16:00]


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25719 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2082 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 10):
I am very curious as to which planes will be used on the intra-California network

Most of United flying on intra-CA city pairs are UAX already. Loss of the 737s hence should not change things much.

The more interesting down the road decision is what happens with all the EMB-120 flying as Skywest takes back 23 of the birds in the next two years.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

I am not suprised to see UA withdraw from Tucson. With only one mainline flight a day and all other flights to Denver, LAX, and SFO covered by UAX, and the 737s being pulled from service, this was bound to happen. CO is the only other carrier serving TUS with one mainline and the remainder COx to Houston. It is interesting that WN is beginning one flight a day to Denver beginning in May. Did they know about UA?

User currently offlineFLY2TUS From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1866 times:



Quoting DesertAir (Reply 18):
It is interesting that WN is beginning one flight a day to Denver beginning in May. Did they know about UA?

That could be possible. Just seems to me like they're just trying to stir the pot with F9 and UA here at TUS.



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User currently offlineAzstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 621 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

I think WN is the reason that UA is downsizing TUS-DEN. They announced it about two weeks after WN announced service to DEN.

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Jeez,I remember flying UA Shuttle into therefrom LAX in June 00 to see the Pima Museum.....I remember being excited to get to fly on a white Shuttle!


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