ATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1456 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2728 times:
Aircrane, EI is correct about it it is very quiet and fast. If you want to fly on one you will probably have to fly on DL I think they have a few coming into ONT from DFW daily and I know to RENO. I was reading somewhere on here that AA is down to 1 MD-90 as they have been withdrawing them for a few months now due to the fact of fleet commonality issues.
Kav92373 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2714 times:
Yeah, if you want to still get a flight on a MD-90 I see them all the time at ONT (Delta). I also see Delta MD90s at SNA when I'm flying there. American was just never happy with those MD-90s from Reno Air and wanted to drop them. Many of the employees called them minimum delay 90s. Anyway, I have not worked in LAX since last summer, but American was opperating the MD-90s on LAX-DEN, LAX-STL, LAX-COS and intrastate California routes. However I'm not sure how many they have left anymore.
EIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2686 times:
American has 5 ex-Reno MD90s still in service.
I heard AA is down to one MD-90, and the last AA MD-90 flight will be April 15. That's just what another forum member said a little while back (can anyone confirm this?)
While I've heard that the MD-90s (and some later MD-80s for that matter) have had problems related to poor-quality workmanship by Mc Donnell Douglas, I don't believe this is why they are leaving the AA fleet. As Woodsboy said, it's a fleet commonality issue. Also, I think the lease rates for the ex-QQ MD-90s are much higher than AA is accustomed to paying for their own planes.
Kav92373 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2681 times:
With regards to my previous post. I used to work for American at LAX and I should have made it clear that it was the employees that did not like the MD90s. However it never seemed like the airline as a whole was enthused with them. I never heard of any intentions for American to keep them throughout the buyout of Reno Air.
Aa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2668 times:
American currently operates only 3 MD90's N903RA and N905RA were retired last month. The remaining three will fly their last revenue flight on 3/31/01 and be returned to Boeing by the end of April. The remaining 3 are N901RA N902RA and N904RA. Current lines flown by MD90's will be replaced by silver MD80's and silver 737-800's. AA will also retire N752RA on 4/1/01 one of the MD87's
777boy From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
I was on one three years ago SNA-SJC. I'm pretty sure that was when QQ had only 2. I believe that I was on R02. The main thing I remember about the flight was the lady sitting next to me informing me about the power to 60% rule at SNA. ALTHOUGH, I must say that I could not notice any reduction. I guess that's part of the MD-90s grace.
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3590 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (15 years 2 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 2660 times:
>...but AAR90 flys the ex-Reno MD-90s for American.
Correction -- I _flew_ ex-Reno MD90s. Today's flights were my last. Start 737-800 training Friday.
>American has 5 ex-Reno MD90s still in service.
AA has 3 in service until Saturday. R01 and R02 are flying 6 flights per day each. R04 is broke "up north" (SFO or SJC). Somebody drove a truck into a wing I'm told.
R03 and R05 stopped flying scheduled flights on March 1 and were ferried to a third party maintenance facility last week for heavy maintenance prior to transfer to Boeing. Rumor has it Air Aruba is getting these birds real cheap.
>Delta has 16 with no immediate plans to retire them.
Delta has 25 MD90s. Still trying to sell them, but still no buyers --at least at whatever price Delta is asking. 2 month long negotiations with SAS broke down in Dec or Jan.
>AA was never "not happy" with the -90s, they just want to
>avoid having only a very few of a particular type and have to
>have a separate MX program for them.
AA management became quite happy with the MD90s, but could find no way to justify the expense of maintaining such a small fleet. Even as a "sub-fleet" within the MD80 administrative structure, the overhead costs were enormous when spread out over just 5 aircraft.
>Also, I think the lease rates for the ex-QQ MD-90s are much
>higher than AA is accustomed to paying for their own planes.
Up to 10 times higher monthly payments than AA is paying for its newest MD80s!
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