EUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8322 times:
Latest news says it is estimated to be closed for 3 hours. Accesses to the airport are difficult and it is recommended to go or exit the terminals by subway. All flights are being diverted to Seville, Saragossa, Valencia and Alicante. Apparently the problem is not only the snow, but the ice, as the temperature during the night dropped to -7ºC.
JMULAH From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8307 times:
WOW! It´s been a while since we had this much snow in Madrid! It just looks quite nice though, you can tell this is a rarety around here! MAybe MAD should borrow snow removal equptment from YUL or YOW! there are used to heavy snowfalls....
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 57 Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8197 times:
Quoting DAirbus (Reply 3): My brother flew in on DL108 this morning. I hope he was able to get out of the airport before they closed the access roads. It looks like the return flight to ATL is delayed.
Our first MAD flight (CO 62) got in, but the return is delayed and CO 144 was diverted to LIS.
That's true only during the summer. Madrid is not Alicante, Malaga, or Palma. Ever heard the old saying "Madrid es nueve meses de invierno y tres de infierno"?
I've seen loads of foreigners getting surprised when coming to Madrid during winter and seeing temperatures below 0C. They just can't believe what they're experiencing, so the first thing I ask them is where in Spain they've been before. I always tell them that Spain is not just "sun and beach" and that Madrid, as well as most of the Iberian peninsula is not a warm place in winter. If Madrid surprises them then they better not dare to go to Burgos, Soria, Avila, Teruel, Pamplona, Leon, Salamanca, and many other areas in Spain where heavy snow can be seen several times per year during the cold season and where the temperatures have dropped well below -10C in several occasions.
Partly true. Even though the city itself doesn't get much snow in winter, it gets at least some during winter seasons. This is definitely not Moscow, but it's certainly not the Caribbean either!.
OTOH, snow "per se" is not a rare thing for madrileños.
Quoting JMULAH (Reply 4): It´s been a while since we had this much snow in Madrid!
2 years exactly. Still remember the BIG snowfalls we had in the entire Community of Madrid in 2007. Lots of delays and cancellations at Barajas, huge traffic jams, people using chains in order to be able to drive on the M40. It didn't cause as much chaos as what we can see today though because the worst part was on a weekend.
Before that, we also saw heavy snowfalls over Madrid several times in February, 2005.
Between those dates, we always get some snow on different areas of Madrid every winter.
Quoting JMULAH (Reply 4): MAybe MAD should borrow snow removal equptment from YUL or YOW!
What I've heard is that the snowfall is not the only thing that has caused AENA to close the airport but also the HUGE problems the passengers are facing to get to/from the airport.
Operations suffered some restrictions during the morning due to low visibility (less arrivals per hour due to ATC increasing separation between aircraft) and the airport kept operating until past 11:00 am with just a few delays/diversions. The de-ice platform was working at full capacity on departing aircraft (de-ice is not done at gates here but on a dedicated area not far from RWY 36L threshold) and the runways were spread with anti-ice products (urea) so more or less the airport could keep operating.
At 11:30 am though the situation got worse on the runways and it seems that the situation inside the terminal buildings was not the best. Several thousands of people were "waiting" inside the airport while other several thousands were trying to get to the airport or trying to leave while the access roads were blocked, being the metro the best/only way to easily get there. I guess AENA did the right thing and won't reopen the airport until safe operations can be 100% guaranteed.
It was said that it would be reopened at 3:00 pm, but now it has been delayed until 4:00 pm and at this point it seems that nothing is certain because weather services have just said that more heavy snow could fall again tonight.
Very nice pictures of the airport can be seen here:
DAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 588 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7934 times:
Well, my brother just sent me an e-mail. He got home but not without incident. For reference, he lives in Canillejas which is only about three miles from the airport on the east side of Madrid.
My plane landed at 9:00, the airport closed at 11:45 and remains closed. On top of that the access roads to the airport are closed (everyone must use the metro). Total gridlock everywhere! Half the highways are closed throughout Spain. Cities, especially Madrid, are shutting down, the TV news is freaking out.
People with horror stories, cars with snow chains in downtown Madrid still getting stuck. Roads are turning into ice. Me after an hour and a half in the taxi I finally had to get out before the bridge over the A-2 because cars couldn´t get up the slope... and walked home... carrying both bags because the snow was too deep
He also sent some pics:
This the A-2 the main route east out of Madrid. The airport exit is about one mile ahead.
The street my parents live on.
The neighborhood kids enjoying themselves in the park.
"I love mankind. It's people I can't stand." - Charles Shultz
EUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7898 times:
We seem to be checking the same newspaper!
Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 8): I've seen loads of foreigners getting surprised when coming to Madrid during winter and seeing temperatures below 0C.
Me too. All the time... But now I just make a joke of it and speak about 'Sunny Spain'. Can you imagine how many times I have been told by foreigners that you cannot ski in Spain? Well, just look at the photo bellow.... and this resort is in the very south of the country.
Pradollano, 15 Enero 2009
We even held the FIS World Championship back in 1996. But still, I guess we are always going to be... 'Sunny Spain'!!
Un saludo from Maria de Molina, opposite Iberia headquarters.
JMULAH From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7631 times:
I live near Boadilla del Monte, close to Majadahonda west of Madrid and we didn´t get as much snow as Madrid downtown. It is quite amazing because my sister was on her way to drop a friend to the airport and they gave up, too much traffic, flights were canceled and it was a complete chaos. But my question is, if we get this much snow once in a while would it be worth getting better equipment for the airport and sourrounding areas just to have the airport with at least minimun flights?
Thowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7564 times:
Does anyone know what has happened to UX072 from CCS? All I can get out of UX and Aena is that it landed in BCN at 13:49. Any inside knowledge?
Aena have no information on this flight and it's not listed among the diversions, and UX cannot tell me what has happened to the flight once it landed in BCN, and whether it was cancelled there, or will be continuing to MAD.
R2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2441 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7500 times:
Wow! Thanks for posting those photos guys! Although I know very well that it can indeed snow in "sunny Spain", this is still a pretty big snowfall for Madrid. By the way, over here we had TLS close yesterday too.
IBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1825 posts, RR: 61 Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6475 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 20): MAD airport has re-opened this afternoon at 4:00PM LT.
First flight didn't leave until 4:40 PM. It was a Finnair flight to Helsinki.
About an hour ago, only 2 runways were operating and all 4 rwys could be fully operative by tomorrow morning, although more snow is expected for tonight and tomorrow according with the weather forecasts.
Flexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 405 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6475 times:
Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11): But still, I guess we are always going to be... 'Sunny Spain'!!
To be fair, it is still pretty sunny on the picture you posted...
Anyway I have to admit I didn't know there were ski resorts in Spain outside the pyrenees.
Enjoy the snow! Weather seems to be similar throughout Europe, I can't remember when we had as much snow as now in the Rhine area of Germany before!
EUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5973 times:
Here are some more pics. Nice but always a problem. As other have mentioned before, it is not unusual to get snow in Madrid (it is almost 650mts above sea level) but it is quite unusual to get so many days of very low temperatures and heavy snowfalls in the city. Most ponds are all frozen.
Madrid Jan 9th
Madrid Jan 9th
Madrid Jan 9th
Madrid Jan 9th
Madrid Jan 9th
I hope tonight it gives us a break! Sorry if it is not completely appropriate to be showing pics that are not 100% related to aviation, but I hope you enjoy them.