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MAD Closed Temporarily Due To Heavy Snow!  
User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8762 times:

Crazy weather!

MAD airport has had to cancel all operations this morning due to the snow that is now collapsing most of 'sunny Spain'!!

News in Spanish: http://www.elmundo.es/mundodinero/2009/01/09/economia/1231497488.html


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User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8707 times:

AENA, the Spanish airport authority, has also included the news in its website (www.aena.es). Watch out for updates if you are travelling to or from Madrid as the bad weather is expected to continue.  cold 

Regards.



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User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8654 times:

Latest news says it is estimated to be closed for 3 hours. Accesses to the airport are difficult and it is recommended to go or exit the terminals by subway. All flights are being diverted to Seville, Saragossa, Valencia and Alicante. Apparently the problem is not only the snow, but the ice, as the temperature during the night dropped to -7ºC.  cold 


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User currently offlineDAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8642 times:
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My brother flew in on DL108 this morning. I hope he was able to get out of the airport before they closed the access roads. It looks like the return flight to ATL is delayed.

My parents tell me it has been frigid in Madrid the last few days with temperatures barely getting above freezing during the day. Heavy snow is not common for Madrid.



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User currently offlineJMULAH From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8639 times:

WOW! It´s been a while since we had this much snow in Madrid! It just looks quite nice though, you can tell this is a rarety around here! MAybe MAD should borrow snow removal equptment from YUL or YOW! there are used to heavy snowfalls....

User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8631 times:

This photo was sent to a newspaper. Being UX, it must be MAD T2 only a few hours ago.

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MAD Jan 9th 2009



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8529 times:



Quoting DAirbus (Reply 3):
My brother flew in on DL108 this morning. I hope he was able to get out of the airport before they closed the access roads. It looks like the return flight to ATL is delayed.

Our first MAD flight (CO 62) got in, but the return is delayed and CO 144 was diverted to LIS.



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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8275 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Thread starter):
Crazy weather!

Well...this is certainly not summertime!

Quoting EUROBUS (Thread starter):
'sunny Spain'!!

That's true only during the summer. Madrid is not Alicante, Malaga, or Palma. Ever heard the old saying "Madrid es nueve meses de invierno y tres de infierno"?

I've seen loads of foreigners getting surprised when coming to Madrid during winter and seeing temperatures below 0C. They just can't believe what they're experiencing, so the first thing I ask them is where in Spain they've been before. I always tell them that Spain is not just "sun and beach" and that Madrid, as well as most of the Iberian peninsula is not a warm place in winter. If Madrid surprises them then they better not dare to go to Burgos, Soria, Avila, Teruel, Pamplona, Leon, Salamanca, and many other areas in Spain where heavy snow can be seen several times per year during the cold season and where the temperatures have dropped well below -10C in several occasions.

Quoting DAirbus (Reply 3):
Heavy snow is not common for Madrid.

Partly true. Even though the city itself doesn't get much snow in winter, it gets at least some during winter seasons. This is definitely not Moscow, but it's certainly not the Caribbean either!.

OTOH, snow "per se" is not a rare thing for madrileños.

Quoting JMULAH (Reply 4):
It´s been a while since we had this much snow in Madrid!

2 years exactly. Still remember the BIG snowfalls we had in the entire Community of Madrid in 2007. Lots of delays and cancellations at Barajas, huge traffic jams, people using chains in order to be able to drive on the M40. It didn't cause as much chaos as what we can see today though because the worst part was on a weekend.

Before that, we also saw heavy snowfalls over Madrid several times in February, 2005.

Between those dates, we always get some snow on different areas of Madrid every winter.

Quoting JMULAH (Reply 4):
MAybe MAD should borrow snow removal equptment from YUL or YOW!

What I've heard is that the snowfall is not the only thing that has caused AENA to close the airport but also the HUGE problems the passengers are facing to get to/from the airport.

Operations suffered some restrictions during the morning due to low visibility (less arrivals per hour due to ATC increasing separation between aircraft) and the airport kept operating until past 11:00 am with just a few delays/diversions. The de-ice platform was working at full capacity on departing aircraft (de-ice is not done at gates here but on a dedicated area not far from RWY 36L threshold) and the runways were spread with anti-ice products (urea) so more or less the airport could keep operating.

At 11:30 am though the situation got worse on the runways and it seems that the situation inside the terminal buildings was not the best. Several thousands of people were "waiting" inside the airport while other several thousands were trying to get to the airport or trying to leave while the access roads were blocked, being the metro the best/only way to easily get there. I guess AENA did the right thing and won't reopen the airport until safe operations can be 100% guaranteed.

It was said that it would be reopened at 3:00 pm, but now it has been delayed until 4:00 pm and at this point it seems that nothing is certain because weather services have just said that more heavy snow could fall again tonight.

Very nice pictures of the airport can be seen here:

http://www.elmundo.es/albumes/2009/01/09/barajas_blanco/index.html

Just as a side note, traffic jams in Madrid's access roads exceeded 400 km of length this morning.



¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8270 times:

Very unusual images of MAD. Although only 50km north of Madrid there are three ski resorts, to see snow in the city area is very rare. These pics appear in the El Mundo website (www.elmundo.es)

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MAD snow storm Jan 9th 2009
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User currently offlineDAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8266 times:
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Well, my brother just sent me an e-mail. He got home but not without incident. For reference, he lives in Canillejas which is only about three miles from the airport on the east side of Madrid.


Absolute madness!

My plane landed at 9:00, the airport closed at 11:45 and remains closed. On top of that the access roads to the airport are closed (everyone must use the metro). Total gridlock everywhere! Half the highways are closed throughout Spain. Cities, especially Madrid, are shutting down, the TV news is freaking out.

People with horror stories, cars with snow chains in downtown Madrid still getting stuck. Roads are turning into ice. Me after an hour and a half in the taxi I finally had to get out before the bridge over the A-2 because cars couldn´t get up the slope... and walked home... carrying both bags because the snow was too deep

Huuy.



He also sent some pics:

This the A-2 the main route east out of Madrid. The airport exit is about one mile ahead.


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A-2 Highway




The street my parents live on.

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Calle Diana




The neighborhood kids enjoying themselves in the park.


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The park



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User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8230 times:

Hi Alfonso,

We seem to be checking the same newspaper!  Wink

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 8):
I've seen loads of foreigners getting surprised when coming to Madrid during winter and seeing temperatures below 0C.

Me too. All the time... But now I just make a joke of it and speak about 'Sunny Spain'. Can you imagine how many times I have been told by foreigners that you cannot ski in Spain? Well, just look at the photo bellow.... and this resort is in the very south of the country.

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Pradollano, 15 Enero 2009


We even held the FIS World Championship back in 1996. But still, I guess we are always going to be... 'Sunny Spain'!!  Wink

Un saludo from Maria de Molina, opposite Iberia headquarters.



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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8164 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
We seem to be checking the same newspaper!

:D

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
Can you imagine how many times I have been told by foreigners that you cannot ski in Spain?

Same here!!

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
just look at the photo bellow.... and this resort is in the very south of the country.

Very nice picture!

I still remember going to Sallent de Gállego (close to Formigal) when I was a kid, and seeing up tp 2 meters of snow. I hope we never have to deal with something like that in Madrid!

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
We even held the FIS World Championship back in 1996. But still, I guess we are always going to be... 'Sunny Spain'!!

I couldn't agree more.

Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
Un saludo from Maria de Molina

Igualmente from Alcalá de Henares!.



¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8082 times:
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Hi there!!

Awaiting at the VIP lounge of Iberia (fully booked) at T4 the departure of the IB-6841 to EZE. Seems that we will make boarding in an hour (one of the runways is open actually).

Thanks God that my daughter is sleeping and doesn't disturb anyone...

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlineJMULAH From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7963 times:

I live near Boadilla del Monte, close to Majadahonda west of Madrid and we didn´t get as much snow as Madrid downtown. It is quite amazing because my sister was on her way to drop a friend to the airport and they gave up, too much traffic, flights were canceled and it was a complete chaos. But my question is, if we get this much snow once in a while would it be worth getting better equipment for the airport and sourrounding areas just to have the airport with at least minimun flights?

User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7896 times:

Does anyone know what has happened to UX072 from CCS? All I can get out of UX and Aena is that it landed in BCN at 13:49. Any inside knowledge?

Aena have no information on this flight and it's not listed among the diversions, and UX cannot tell me what has happened to the flight once it landed in BCN, and whether it was cancelled there, or will be continuing to MAD.

Any information would be appreciated.

A


User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7832 times:

Wow! Thanks for posting those photos guys! Although I know very well that it can indeed snow in "sunny Spain", this is still a pretty big snowfall for Madrid. By the way, over here we had TLS close yesterday too.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

MAD airport has re-opened this afternoon at 4:00PM LT.

User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6807 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 20):
MAD airport has re-opened this afternoon at 4:00PM LT.

First flight didn't leave until 4:40 PM. It was a Finnair flight to Helsinki.

About an hour ago, only 2 runways were operating and all 4 rwys could be fully operative by tomorrow morning, although more snow is expected for tonight and tomorrow according with the weather forecasts.



¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6807 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 11):
But still, I guess we are always going to be... 'Sunny Spain'!!

To be fair, it is still pretty sunny on the picture you posted...
Anyway I have to admit I didn't know there were ski resorts in Spain outside the pyrenees.
Enjoy the snow! Weather seems to be similar throughout Europe, I can't remember when we had as much snow as now in the Rhine area of Germany before!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26848 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6946 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 9):
Very unusual images of MAD

WOW amazing pics. Certainly looks MAD at MAD lol....


User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6779 times:



Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 8):
This is definitely not Moscow

Guys,
Moscow has much less snow now than Madrid does! Big grin
Snowless December became normal for us.


User currently offlineEUROBUS From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6305 times:

Here are some more pics. Nice but always a problem. As other have mentioned before, it is not unusual to get snow in Madrid (it is almost 650mts above sea level) but it is quite unusual to get so many days of very low temperatures and heavy snowfalls in the city. Most ponds are all frozen.

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Madrid Jan 9th


I hope tonight it gives us a break!  Wink Sorry if it is not completely appropriate to be showing pics that are not 100% related to aviation, but I hope you enjoy them.



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User currently offlineHikarufree From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6078 times:

They're gorgeous photos, Eurobus.

Thank you for sharing them.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineSkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4561 times:



Quoting Bushman (Reply 27):
Guys,
Moscow has much less snow now than Madrid does! Big grin
Snowless December became normal for us.

to add to that, here in Maryland and DC we haven't gotten much snow this season yet either. Strange because by now, we've usually had at least a few decent snow falls. Texas has had more snow than us!



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19396 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4183 times:



Quoting EUROBUS (Reply 5):
This photo was sent to a newspaper. Being UX, it must be MAD T2 only a few hours ago.

¡Hostia sagrada!

That just looks so darned...

wierd!

Joder...


25 EUROBUS : Apparently thousands of passengers are still stranded in the MAD airport, where operations are gradually going back to normal. However, and according
26 Ord14r : This has been a disaster for all involved, despite the beautiful photos. My girlfriend waited 14 hours in line for someone from Iberia to rebook her.
27 Post contains links Javibi : Quick Google search: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...2004168720_webflightscancel06.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28367657/ http://www.msnbc
28 Alessandro : So how many meters above sealevel is MAD? You even get snow in Kenya, so it´s all about altitude.
29 HT : (http://gc.kls2.com/airport/MAD) 2000 ft / 610 m -HT
30 Alessandro : Studs are the only thing for black ice.
31 Teme82 : Man I envy you guys in Spain, I would like to have that snow in here We have the tools to deal with snow and ice so that much snow isn't really a prob
32 R2rho : You have to keep in mind aswell that IB is currently dealing with an undeclared pilot strike. So all the worst things that could happen happened all a
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