Purdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8 Posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1434 times:
I was looking at AA schedules in the future, trying to see whether they were planning to reinstate the 767 Flagship Service on the SAN-JFK route. I found no evidence that they were, but also found that, in July, American will begin offering a third nonstop flight from San Diego to New York - Kennedy every business day. There will be 3 737-800 flights M-F (one SAN-JFK flight will be a 757), and 2 flights, 1 757, 1 738, on weekends. The new service will include a redeye to JFK, departing SAN at 10:30 pm, and a noon departure from JFK to SAn Diego. In all, the weekday schedule will consist of the following:
8 am - 4:13 pm (757)
12:40 pm - 9:01 pm
10:30 pm - 6:47 am
8:30 am - 11:28 am
12:00 pm - 2:54 pm
6:15 pm - 9:28 pm
Lindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3096 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1339 times:
I'm glad to see AA adding flights, even with smaller aircraft. Perhaps they are hoping to head off JetBlue to the redeye market with the night flight. Delta, I noticed, has been shrinking the size of their SAN-JFK flight. Originally a 767-300, it's now a 757, and soon to be a 737-800. Will they cut the service, possibly add another flight, or direct future expansion to BOS? (Where AA will add a second daily BOS-SAN flight in April)
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1303 times:
The jetBlue theory you have is an interesting one...I had not thought of that. Also, the aircraft usage on the DL JFK is interesting. Maybe they will add another flight...I think that for only one flight a day a 738 might be a little too small.
Continental Airlines is also adding a 4th daily 73G flight to EWR during the summer months. All of the other flights are on 738s.
I really hope AA adds MIA to the SAN route map soon. The route would be hugely popular as it would be the only nonstop connection between San Diego and Florida.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6510 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1293 times:
I don't agree that a MIA-SAN flight would be all that successful - the average daily passenger count on that route in the 2nd quarter of 2000 was only 137 (at a fare level of $285 each way) while 198 went SAN-FLL at an average fare of $208. You could probably fill the flight if the fares were low enough (remember, you won't get all 137) but then it doesn't end up being a terribly profitable route. The yields SAN-EWR and SAN-BOS are *much* better.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6153 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1255 times:
A daily AA 737-800 flight from San Diego to Miami woUld be profitale if the loads arent too good. It would serve as connection point to the southeast ,Forida in particual and also for passengers going to South America and the Caribbean .
ONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 580 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
I am surprised that there are not severe congestion delays at SAN. Is that airport nearing operational capacity? It has only one runway for commercial aviation it seems that several cariers have significant opperations there.
Ishky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1201 times:
The Transcontinental US market ceases to amaze me. Even when our economy can be "slowing down" and we can be in the "off-peak season", carriers still find more and more people willing to fly from the West Coast to the East Coast. This year, TWA, Delta, JetBlue, and now American have all added transcons to California.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3096 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Yeah, you're right about American's former service on the SAN-MIA route. They briefly flew 767s twice a day.
Didn't last long. I wouldn't be surprised if 738 flights were successful, though.
Yes, SAN is overcrowded, but there doesn't seem to be much political will to build a new airport or significantly expand the size of the present one. There's an airport master plan you can check out at the official SAN site, which includes adding a new terminal on the north side of the airport, and adding a second runway if land comes available.(Someone more technically inclined can throw up a link) Perhaps it might be better to relocate the entire airport, but most of the options require the use of military land which the various branches of the armed services do not want to give up.