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What The Story With This BA Livery?  
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5574 posts, RR: 32
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11157 times:

I came across this BA 737 on the database. Why are solid colours used on the tail and Speedmarque, instead of the half-tone effect on the rest of the fleet? It looks strange.


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User currently offlineBALHRWWCC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11128 times:

The aircraft was a temporary lease from the non defunct XL airways to the former BA franchise GB Airways.

Hence the non standard livery


User currently offlineStylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11128 times:



Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):

more interesting is the leasing history of this bird, just read the note of the photographer "owned...leased...subleased...leased..." Big grin


User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11105 times:

That was an XL Airways 737-800 which was temporarily leased to BA (or possibly to GB Airways when it was still a BA subsidiary) so presumably an approximate paint job was considered good enough. Even the BA titles were smaller than usual.

Edit: I see I've just been beaten to it, sorry for the unnecessary post.

[Edited 2009-01-10 04:24:56]


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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5574 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11039 times:

Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3901 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 11016 times:



Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 3):
BA (or possibly to GB Airways when it was still a BA subsidiary) so presumably an approximate paint job was considered good enough. Even the BA titles were smaller than usual.

Leased from XL but the bird itself was on sublease to XL from Miami Air! The green area just aft of L1 is part of the Miami air colour scheme, I think it is around a sensor plate of some kind and could not be painted over, the blue belly is non-standard as well, again part of the Miami Air scheme. the overall appearance is pretty close to BA colours.

Just a quick correction, GB Airways was never owned by BA. They were wholly owned by the Bland Group of Gibralter and the airline operated as a BA franchise carrier before the Bland group sold the airline to easyJet.

Brian.



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4199 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10562 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
Leased from XL but the bird itself was on sublease to XL from Miami Air! The green area just aft of L1 is part of the Miami air colour scheme, I think it is around a sensor plate of some kind and could not be painted over, the blue belly is non-standard as well, again part of the Miami Air scheme. the overall appearance is pretty close to BA colours.

You definitely know your stuff.
Looking at this picture, it definitely surprises me that such a half-hearted attempt at putting the BA livery was done though. It looks like a cheap knock-off because it is a cheap knock-off. I'm actually surprised BA allowed such an infringement on their image.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
They were wholly owned by the Bland Group

Couldn't have thought of a better name myself.



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3292 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10475 times:
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It's amazing how childish the livery looks with solid colors used. I never thought the gradient they normally have added so much to the design.

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User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 8018 times:

The interesting thing is that to the average traveller, they would see "British Airways" not realize so much about the paint scheme was not correct. The only obviously off part is the section behind door 1.

Now look at the comments from you guys and you wonder what they actually got right  Smile


User currently offlineFlyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 6598 times:

It looks like it was all done with pressure sensitive vinyl rather than paint. That might explain the solids rather than halftones. It is possible to do them with vinyl but it would have to be printed and that would add cost. The best part about vinyl is if the lease was short term, it is easy to peel off.

Mike


User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 6301 times:



Quoting Flyabunch (Reply 9):

Took the words right off of my painting pallet!...Vinyl...


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4836 times:

Wow, I would like to know the cash trail on the monthly payments for this bird!


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User currently offlineGatwickA320 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

I used to work as cabin crew on this aircraft while it was leased to GB Airways. It carried XL flight deck and we operated to XL SOPs. Look carefully at the blue belly of the fuselage - notice how it goes "up" at the tail. This was carried over directly from Miami Air who also have blue bellies on their aircraft.

The blue underside on BA aircraft go 'round' just below the tail. If you're not sure what I mean do a search on Miami Air 737-800s! Also just behind door 1 left you'll see a beige coloured rectangle. This is an access door to some gauges or equipment (not sure what exactly) but the beige comes from the stripe down the side of Miami Air a/c. A part sourced directly from them!

Yes the paint job was awful, quite embarrassing really but we had great fun on G-OXLA - we all volunteered to work on it and flew with the same crew on most flights, so we all made some good friends  Smile


User currently offlineGatwickA320 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

Would just like to add that it was not painted. The tail (as pointed out by Flyabunch) was vinyls!

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7256 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3043 times:



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
I think it is around a sensor plate of some kind and could not be painted over

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It is the static port.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
the blue belly is non-standard as well

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The dark blue area covers much more of the fuselage's underside than it does in the standard BA livery. So there was no room for the 'BRITISH AIRWAYS' titles in the usual position on the lower forward fuselage. This is why they are positioned above the cabin windows.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5):
GB Airways was never owned by BA

'Never' is incorrect. Formed by the Bland Group in 1931 to fly between Gibraltar and Tangier its operations soon fell dormanrt until BEA took a 51 per cent interest in 1947. This controlling interest passed to BA on its formation through the merger of BEA and BOAC in 1974.

I believe it was in 1989 that Bland took a contolling 51 per cent interest (reducing the BA investment to 49 per cent) as part of a reorganisation that saw GB Airways move their HQ from Gibraltar to LGW.

BA sold its remaining 49 per cent interest to Bland in 1995 two years before GB Airways became a BA franchise operator.


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