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DL122/123 Today And Tomorrow  
User currently offlineGpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

I'm slightly confused about a couple of Delta flights and was wondering if any of you could explain what is going on. DL122 from JFK to SNN left last night as scheduled and landed early in SNN this morning. The return flight (DL123) today is cancelled (and was last night when I checked the DL website). Flight DL122 today is also cancelled but the DL123 tomorrow is operating as scheduled. It appears that DL is leaving a 757 for over 24 hours in SNN. Does anyone know why this is?

Thanks in advance!


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User currently offlineDAL763ER From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2292 times:
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Here's your answer: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4277003/

NYC is expecting a snow storm Sad



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User currently offlineGpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Ah right. So they got all of the aircraft out last night but are not taking them back until tomorrow. Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Any ideas why the CO flight to EWR departed SNN on time this morning? Odd that CO can get in to NYC but DL can't.



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2258 times:
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Quoting Gpbcroppers63 (Reply 2):
Odd that CO can get in to NYC but DL can't.

No doubt CO has a different WX contingency plan than DL.



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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3589 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2242 times:



Quoting Gpbcroppers63 (Reply 2):
Any ideas why the CO flight to EWR departed SNN on time this morning? Odd that CO can get in to NYC but DL can't.

I would imagine that CO has more aircraft parking spaces available at EWR for snowed in aircraft than DL has available at JFK.

SNN has alot of space available for RONs.


User currently offlineGpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Ah yeah. That's a point. I hadn't thought about it that way. I just assumed that the aircraft wouldn't be able to land in NYC not that they wouldn't be able to leave. Thanks for the explanation!


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
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Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 4):
I would imagine that CO has more aircraft parking spaces available at EWR for snowed in aircraft than DL has available at JFK

Wouldn't CO try to avoid parking its aircraft in the storm area? I should think keeping aircraft out of the affected area would minimize system disruption due to the storm.....



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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4083 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Why not send them to Bangor, Maine and have them sit it out before heading down the coast once the southern edge of the storm passes through? CO and DL seem to favor Bangor lately.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Because if they go to Bangor they just sit....and hotels are pretty limited


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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
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Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 7):
Why not send them to Bangor, Maine and have them sit it out before heading down the coast once the southern edge of the storm passes through? CO and DL seem to favor Bangor lately.

They also need the aircraft for whatever legs it would have flown after the EWR/JFK stop.



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User currently offlineGpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Well it looks as if CO aren't expecting any problems (at least with the Shannon flight). The flight out this evening is showing as on time and the return tomorrow looks OK as well. Is this a case of CO burying their heads in the sand and hoping that everything works out or is there something else going on?


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User currently offlineBinMonster From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

DL 165/10JAN DUB JFK SKD OUT ACT OUT SKIN ACT IN
0855 0852 1125 1130

OK lets say you’re the flight manager for the NE… JFK

You have a storm coming……you have to make the call to run a full schedule…
or reduced schedule……..of course you have to do this in advance no crystal ball

1.Operate all flights hoping the weather impact is not that great…..
 Risk weather is as forecasted or worse.
 Result if your wrong JFK in gridlock, major delays of Aircraft on taxiways and runways…you know those 6 7 hours delays
2.Cancel all flights expecting the storm of the century.
 Risk it’s not the storm of the century only a dusting.
 Results passenger back log for days and needless expense to the company...opportunity to update your resume.
3.Reduce the number of flights for that day by selectively canceling flights.
 Risk did not cancel enough flights or canceled to many
 Results:
 A. reduced the schedule enough to allow the remaining flights operate with no to minimal delays.
 B. did not cancel enough flights and JFK in gridlock, major delays of Aircraft on taxiways and runways…you know those 6 7 hours delays
 C. cancel to many flights passenger back log for days and needless expense to the company...opportunity to update your resume.


Media … Public…utilize the ability to make a call after the facts are known.
Classic case of Monday morning quarterback..
Try standing in the pocket with the defensive line, blitzing linebacker..etc.
You make the call……

Back to our story

A WIN for DUB and a loss for SNN unless of course you’re a DUB passenger making a connection and its canceled…
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User currently offlineGpbcroppers63 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1818 times:



Quoting BinMonster (Reply 11):
A WIN for DUB and a loss for SNN

Seems about normal really  Wink



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