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ORD-FRA American Airlines 1989?  
User currently offlineVw From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 252 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

I flew ORD-FRA in May of 1989. I was only seven and do not remember what model aircraft it was. Did AA fly both the DC-10 and B767 on this route at that time?

Thanks

VW

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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

I think they used only DC-10 on the ORD-FRA route and on all FRA routes these days.


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User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

In 1990 it was definitely a 767. Not sure about 1989.

User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

I flew it in March, 1987 and it was a 767-223 (325AA)

User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

I also flew AAL ORD-FRA in Dec. of '89: 767-223.


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User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1266 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

They used all DC-10 and B-767-300ER and B-767-200 in 1989/90! Dallas Ft. Worth was usually flown by a DC-10-30 but was later changed to MD-11 (only DFW not ORD) but after 1992 ORD was only flown with 767-300ER!


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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6836 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4066 times:

5/89 AA timetable and 7/89 OAG both show D10.

User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

I worked this trip during the period 1986-1991 many, many times. Mostly, it was a DC10-30 three-class with main deck galleys. Occasionaly it would be switched (for periods of time) to 767s, usually -300s but every now and then a -200 (If I recall AA did not get its first 767-300 until 1988 or 1989 -- can't remember now).

At one point, the flight (84) continued to DUS -- if I recall it that was during only one of those years and only for the winter season.


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2392 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
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FRA was definitly a DC-10 in 1989.

For info:
AA introduced ORD-BRU with a 767 back in 1989.

The DC10 used to fly the route in 1991-1992.

This also reminds me the good time when AA brought its 74L on the JFK-BRU route !!!



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User currently offlineHawaii12 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

hihi all,
speaking of AA's three class config back in the 80 -early 90;s... does anyone have any photos of the interiors of their international fleet? there are not many uploaded on this site... im curious to see their first and biz offering back then. if i recall correctly, their premium seats were covered in lambs wool.... but i could be wrong.

regards,

eck


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2669 times:



Quoting Hawaii12 (Reply 9):
if i recall correctly, their premium seats were covered in lambs wool.... but i could be wrong.

Yes I also recall that. I flew an AA 767-200ER ORD-ZRH-GVA sometime in the late 1980s (the short ZRH-GVA tag-on sector didn't last long).


User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2655 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
Yes I also recall that. I flew an AA 767-200ER ORD-ZRH-GVA sometime in the late 1980s (the short ZRH-GVA tag-on sector didn't last long).

I worked that flight in 1989 or 1990 and once had Audrey Hepburn and her husband on t (I think it was flight AA38). They were booked through to GVA but got off for the transit stop at ZRH and did not board for the final leg, so we had to have their bags pulled. Aside from that minor irritation, she was the most charming celebrity I have ever met.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2636 times:



Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 11):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
Yes I also recall that. I flew an AA 767-200ER ORD-ZRH-GVA sometime in the late 1980s (the short ZRH-GVA tag-on sector didn't last long).

I worked that flight in 1989 or 1990 and once had Audrey Hepburn and her husband on t (I think it was flight AA38). They were booked through to GVA but got off for the transit stop at ZRH and did not board for the final leg, so we had to have their bags pulled. Aside from that minor irritation, she was the most charming celebrity I have ever met.

She lived about 25 miles east of GVA for the last 30 years or so of her life. She's buried in the village cemetery near where she lived.


User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3804 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2525 times:
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Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 8):
For info:
AA introduced ORD-BRU with a 767 back in 1989.

The DC10 used to fly the route in 1991-1992.

This also reminds me the good time when AA brought its 74L on the JFK-BRU route !!!

Yes, I remember all off that very well.
I started flying American Airlines transatlantic at that time when service to BRU was introduced in 1989, but before 1989 AA flew to ORY, LGW, ZRH and FRA speaking of European destinations.
When American started flying to BRU, they started flying from ORD as AA88/89 (they always did for now 20 years) and JFK as AA98/99 until 1997 when the flight was dropped, it became AA171/172 when it resumed in 2004.
I flew once on the 747SP from JFK to BRU (indeed 1991 was the year American had just introduced the MD-11 on the DFW-NRT flight) and twice on the DC-10-30 from BRU to ORD. Since 1993, American flies nothing but 767's to BRU ( we may see a 757 on the JFK-BRU flight fairly soon but ORD-BRU, it will continue to be a 767-300ER), both 200ER and 300ER variants. I also remember there was a nonstop flight BRU-DFW in the summer of 1993, but it didn't last long, it lasted only the summer. It doesn't look like there will ever be a BRU-MIA nonstop flight.

Quoting 28L28L (Reply 3):
I flew it in March, 1987 and it was a 767-223 (325AA)

It must have been brand new at that time, when you think that now the 200's are being scrapped.

Yes, I remember FRA. I have never been there but my father used to connect throught FRA all the time before service to BRU was introduced. At that time there was no One World and no Star Alliance, so you could book a trip on American to FRA connecting on Lufthansa to BRU. I remember DFW-FRA was a DC-10 in the late 80's, flight AA70 which had an incident in DFW was a DC-10 bound for FRA.
If you search for pictures of American 767's taken in the 80's when the 767 was all new, there is one of them, a 300ER, in FRA. Indeed, FRA saw both the 767 and the DC-10 in the late 80's/early 90's.


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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2358 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2398 times:
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Interesting, while looking in the photo database it appears that the MD-11 stopped serving FRA after 1993, until returning in 2000/2001. Was this only the DFW flight?


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As a sidenote, when were the DC-10-30's finally pulled from TATL ops and put on HNL-ORD/DFW? 1994/95?



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User currently offlineTAN FLYR From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1909 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

IIRC, for a while the domestic legs of AA 83/ 84 to & from LAX in that 89ish time frame were DC10's. I used to fly that (LAX-ORD) frequently in those days and would choose the DC10.

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