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AF To Start IAD's First A380 Service  
User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11152 times:

According to Flightglobal - AF will begin first A380 service to IAD in 2010.

Airbus: Air France to start Dulles A380 service in Summer 2010

Hopefully I won't have to wait that long to get glimpse of the A380 though....

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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10893 times:

Are you saying IAD will be the first US city to receive AF's A380 or you're just letting us know the A380 is coming to IAD??? I was thinking Kennedy and Los Angeles would get it first....

User currently offlineFrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3842 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10826 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Are you saying IAD will be the first US city to receive AF's A380 or you're just letting us know the A380 is coming to IAD???

The article is really vague. It just says AF will fly to IAD with the whale.
It doesn't mention which US city will first receive the AF A380s.
AFAIK YUL is still the first North American city to welcome them.

That quote really says everything about what this blurb is or isn't able to tell us...:

"Air France, which is expected to receive its first A380 later this year, declined to comment on specific markets that would be served, but said the airline is planning to serve the US with the 538-seat superjumbo."

The US? Really? I would never have guessed...

 Yeah sure



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User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10785 times:

IAD service (and others rumored) was already discussed in this thread
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/4220008


User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10576 times:

I'm hoping they start their U.S. A380 service while I can still redeem my CO FFM on Air France. It's a lot less to redeeem than a QF award to Australia. I'm hoping LAX or JFK will be their first and not IAD. My guess would be JFK because it's more "high profile" than IAD.


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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3254 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10534 times:



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 2):

The article is really vague. It just says AF will fly to IAD with the whale.

"The Whale" = 747



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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1404 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10438 times:



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 4):
I'm hoping they start their U.S. A380 service while I can still redeem my CO FFM on Air France.

I don't think by the time AF brings the A380 to the US, your CO miles will do any good on a Skyteam carrier. Now you can still try to use them on LH then  Smile.



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User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9987 times:

As far as I think what it means is that it will be IAD's first A380 service not first 380 service in US.

User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8494 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9806 times:
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AF in recent years has had as many as 3 daily flights to IAD. Bringing the A380 makes sense to a degree, but this announcement was made by Airbus Not Air France. I would be a little salty about when it happens, JFK will see A380 before IAD.

User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9628 times:



Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 7):
As far as I think what it means is that it will be IAD's first A380 service not first 380 service in US.

That's what I understood as well. It's not that IAD will be the first US AF station to get the A380 (YUL and JFK will be first as several have already mentioned here) or that IAD will be the first US airport to see the A380 (LAX and JFK already do). It simply says that AF will begin A380 service to IAD in Summer 2010 and given that not too many A380 operators currently serve the airport it could be assumed that this will be IAD's first A380 service.

It's amazing how everyone interpreted the same article so differently!


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1707 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9526 times:



Quoting PSA727 (Reply 4):
I'm hoping they start their U.S. A380 service while I can still redeem my CO FFM on Air France. It's a lot less to redeeem than a QF award to Australia. I'm hoping LAX or JFK will be their first and not IAD. My guess would be JFK because it's more "high profile" than IAD.

IIRC the first Concorde destination in the US was Washington-Dulles.


User currently offlineRobbie86 From Sweden, joined May 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9125 times:



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 2):
AFAIK YUL is still the first North American city to welcome them.

That's what I've heard as well. YUL together with NRT will be the first cities in the world to see AF 380.

So maybe IAD will be number three in the world (two in North-America).



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User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9073 times:



Quoting Charles79 (Reply 9):
It's amazing how everyone interpreted the same article so differently!

Especially so when the title of the thread says IAD's first 380 service  Smile


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8380 times:

My understanding that the AF A380 will be the first A380 to ever serve IAD.
Not the first AF A380 to serve the US, as i believe JFK is one of the first planned destinations, maybe together with LAX but i may be wrong on this last one.
Anyway, AF A380 will never be the first A380 to serve neither LAX or JFK as these places are already served by other A380s...
But AF will be (needs to be ---sarcasm----) first somewhere as well.

YUL will also be the first N Am city to be served by the AF A380, although these will be temporary route proving flights (i guess with pax in lieu of the regular 744s or 77Ws). CDG-YUL is a short route and YUL is not as busy as JFK, and therefore looks better suited for test flights than JFK.
Or is this an attempt to take over AC's share of J seats on CDG-YUL? Flagship vs flagship.... not so bad for a "leisure-oriented" destination?

[Edited 2009-01-13 08:51:26]


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User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8352 times:
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Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 12):
Especially so when the title of the thread says IAD's first 380 service

Meaning no disrespect to anyone, the way the thread title is written makes it easy to misinterpret.

So let's move on.

Now that we know that IAD is **neither the first nor the last** 380 destination for Air France, who else might be flying the A380 into Dulles?

Suggestions are Lufthansa and Qatar Airways. Does anyone disagree?


User currently offlineNewyork355 From France, joined Jul 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7375 times:

Directorguy...the only reason Air France and British Airways served IAD with the Concorde was because the Concorde was banned from landing in NYC because of the protests and the Port Authority. I believe that AF and BA would have preferred to have started service to JFK with the Concorde before IAD, but since they couldn't do anything about the NYC situation, they just went ahead and did the only other (quasi desirable) Concorde service that the could do.

Being a Washington native...I'm pumped to hear that Air France is thinking of using the A380 on this market! Oh, how IAD has grown!



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User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 5010 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7227 times:

AF wont fly the 380 to YUL because it wants it seems to want to play the frequency game in order to maximize through traffic in CDG.

So much of YUL's traffic is going to North Africa and the Middle East, and these flights are so full in the current banks, that they need alternative banks to flow additional traffic.

Hence why AF is going to add an 1100CDG departure, and go up to 4 summer flight and 3 winter flights.

It seems that AF would be happy to consolidate frequency in perhaps Washington, Los Angeles, and New York. I would not be surprised to see Atlanta on the list in due time.


User currently offlineAirproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7061 times:



Quoting PITrules (Reply 5):
"The Whale" = 747

The 747 is much more elegant than a whale... This nickname better fits the A380...



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User currently offlineLH491 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4922 times:



Quoting Airproxx (Reply 17):
The 747 is much more elegant than a whale... This nickname better fits the A380...

I think the conventional nickname most people on this site have settled on for the 380 is 'whalejet'



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