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FAA Grounds Air Tahoma  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26013 posts, RR: 50
Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Certificate pulled.

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Air Tahoma grounded by FAA
January 15, 2009

Air Tahoma, an air cargo firm based at Rickenbacker Airport, has had its operating certificate revoked effective immediately, a representative for the Federal Aviation Administration confirmed today.

One of the company's planes crashed near Rickenbacker Sept. 1. Three crew members were killed.

The company handles cargo on behalf of third parties such as Federal Express.

The revocation means that Air Tahoma cannot operate its aircraft, which include nine turboprop Convair planes.

http://dispatch.com/live/content/bus...2009/01/15/air_tahoma.html?sid=101


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User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5362 times:

Wonder who's gonna pick up the FedEx MIA flying.


My definition of cool ? Not trying so hard to be cool.
User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5245 times:

There last 2 crashes drew a lot of attention and questions regarding their operational practices.

User currently offline727forever From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 793 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

It's kind of a shame because these old Convairs probably won't find new life. On the other hand, if Air Tahoma continued operating them they would end up destroyed. Having met the managment of this outfit I can only ask the FAA, really, what the hell took so long? They skies are a little safer tonight.


727forever



727forever
User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1083 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4947 times:



Quoting 727forever (Reply 3):
Having met the managment of this outfit I can only ask the FAA, really, what the hell took so long?

Can you elaborate on this statement? What was the problem with their management?


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

I believe they were another typical "fly the freight at any cost" type airline. putting pressure on pilots to fly even though the airplanes might not be airworthy, etc.

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

Interesting..


So when are they gonna ground Colgan?


User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

Colgan isn't anything like Tahoma.

User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4762 times:



Quoting DashTrash (Reply 7):
Colgan isn't anything like Tahoma.

All I can say to that is.......... HOLY S@#$!  Wow!


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4731 times:



Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 1):
Wonder who's gonna pick up the FedEx MIA flying.

IFL will.....

http://www.flytlc.com/



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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4709 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 8):
All I can say to that is.......... HOLY S@#$! Wow!

Um, why are you so shocked?



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4693 times:



Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 10):
Um, why are you so shocked?

Just a reaction based on the colgan planes ive seen/been on, and him implying Tahoma was much worse.


User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4507 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 11):
Just a reaction based on the colgan planes ive seen/been on, and him implying Tahoma was much worse.

Right after 9/11, I was hired over the phone to go to work at Air Tahoma. The guy on the other end seemed nice enough (turned out he is a good guy), I was hard up for flight time and money, and I thought time at a 121 Convair operator would look pretty damn good on a resume.

So I drive to LCK to start training. They put us up at an insect and God knows what else infested Budget Inn somewhere in the area. Complete dump. When we get to class, we're shown around, and while in the office there are people in there dealing with the FAA on the company's latest engine failure, and I was also told that I'd work in the office too. While being shown the hangar, I was informed I'd be expected to help out the mechanics as well. Seemed like an awful lot of extra side work for someone who was there to fly airplanes.

There were other factors that went to the decision, but I decided I was going to get killed or violated at the place and didn't return to class after lunch on day 3. I went to the roach motel, packed my shit, and drove home. I hate to admit this, but I had also just met a pretty hot girl and thought this job was going to get in the way of that. I'm still married to her. Worked out pretty well!


User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4449 times:



Quoting DashTrash (Reply 12):

Good call on getting out of there! Tahoma used to fly to CRW from LCK for fedex. The planes looked about as good as i thought something that old could. I never knew their base operation was the way you described it.

I see your point about them now. I hear 9L keeps a clean office...but their aircraft need HELP.


User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3151 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

It's about time.

I don't know anybody that's died on a Colgan aircraft. I know a couple that have died at Tahoma and heard more than enough horror stories from captains that were once freight dogging for them.

Some companies like Airnet have rough looking planes but take care of what needs to be taken care of (boxes don't care about pretty paint) Tahoma has a horrible safety record to match the rough aircraft.



DMI
User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Colgan had a fatal accident (a repo flight) in HYA in 2003.


buhh bye
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4168 times:



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 11):
Just a reaction based on the colgan planes ive seen/been on

Being an uninformed passenger on an airplane does not make you an expert on aircraft maintenance or flight crew competence. I just don't understand why you'd say such an inflammatory and utterly baseless thing.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3151 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4037 times:



Quoting Lymanm (Reply 15):
Colgan had a fatal accident (a repo flight) in HYA in 2003.

A fatal accident. There aren't too many 121 carriers that haven't had a fatal accident. Tahoma has had multiple fatal accidents and issues with the FAA.

IFL also has Convairs and they're in much better shape than anything I've ever seen from Air Tahoma. Point is they are just like Grand Aire. They don't take care of their equipment, and expect their pilots to violate regulations so they can be cheap. They shouldn't be flying, just like Grand Aire.



DMI
User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1629 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3783 times:



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 17):
They shouldn't be flying, just like Grand Aire.

They are now officially gone too. Thank God. I heard IFL just picked up a couple Convairs, if they are Air Tahoma's, they are going to be working on them for a while!



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