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2 IL-76's Runway Collision In Russia  
User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18790 times:

Hello everybody!

Everyone in the world already knows about Hudson River miracle.

But this crash totally shadowed another one that happened in Southern Russia (Makhachkala airport) on Thursday evening (20:40 Moscow time).
Russian news agencies report runway collision of 2 Il-76 planes.
Here is a link (in Russian): http://news.mail.ru/incident/2302837

The article reports that Il-76 coming to land hit the cockpit of another Il-76 holding short the runway with its wing. 4 crew members in the cockpit were killed. Both aircraft caught fire. It was extinguished in 40 minutes. Il-76 coming to land was carrying over 30 people. The second plane had only crew on board.
Makhachkala airport is now closed. The investigation is started by Russian aviation authorities.

I'll try to get more information, hopefully in English.

Regards,

Sergey

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User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18775 times:

Some more information here (in Russian too):
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/2009/01/16/2925105.shtml


User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18736 times:

Found a link in English: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090116/119617239.html

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18739 times:

More about the airport, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhachkala_airport

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18751 times:
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Quoting Bushman (Reply 1):
Some more information here (in Russian too):

Thanks for that.

What a nasty accident, truly horrible. So, two of the six crew on board the IL-76 hit on the ground survived, and one of those who died had his head taken clean off in the collision? Horrendous.

It is a merciful thing that everybody got out of the other aircraft ok.

Photos of the scene seem very hard to come by, this is the best I could find so far....

http://news.tut.by/auto/112166.html



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18715 times:

57th and 58th Il-76 written off, including those destroyed on the ground in war.

User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18702 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 4):
Photos of the scene seem very hard to come by, this is the best I could find so far....

http://news.tut.by/auto/112166.html

These photos are from the crash earlier this year in Sudan also involving a IL-76.

I haven't found myself any good photos either.



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18692 times:

Terrible accident. I guess the 30 something onboard the other aircraft were very lucky..



No photo of the airport in the data base, remarkably when you have millions..



User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18659 times:
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Quoting Severnaya (Reply 6):
These photos are from the crash earlier this year in Sudan also involving a IL-76.

I haven't found myself any good photos either.

That would make sense, it didn't seem to fit with the description of the accident in Makhachkala, yet the photo was being used by so many sites.



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User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18630 times:

Guys,

Here is video and photo from the crash scene:
http://aviablog.ru/2009/01/16/katastrofa-il-76-v-mahachkale/


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18598 times:
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Wow. That's a horrible picture, seems like the wing just totally sliced the main part of the flight deck clean away.


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 18549 times:

Terrible impact & intense fire. Looks like the crew never had a chance & died quickly..



On a technical side, the other Il-76 with 30 people onboard seems to have been lucky. If the wing had hit more then just the cockpit it would probably have spinned & disintegrated..

[Edited 2009-01-16 02:10:18]

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18485 times:

Tragic accident!  Sad Almost to land and then happens the unexpected.  Sad


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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18464 times:

Looking a the livery it must have been a Russian Airforce freighter.


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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18394 times:
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Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
Looks like the crew never had a chance & died quickly..

Yes, though two on that aircraft did survive.

Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 12):
Almost to land and then happens the unexpected. Sad

Indeed, although there were no fatalities on the landing aircraft, only on the one waiting to take off.



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User currently offlineHam From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 287 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 18357 times:

why would there be 30 people on an IL76? was it a military transporter?

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18316 times:
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Quoting Ham (Reply 15):
was it a military transporter?

That is correct.



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User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18278 times:

Guys,

Try this link: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=242498
There is the article in Russian with the names of people that lost their lives.
There is also a video track. I hope it will work for you.

Sergey


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18024 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 14):
Yes, though two on that aircraft did survive.

I doubt they were in the cockpit - more likely in the cargo cabin.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 17981 times:
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Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 18):
I doubt they were in the cockpit - more likely in the cargo cabin.

Looking at the pictures, that is certainly a reasonable assumption.



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User currently offlineSuseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16385 times:

Looking at the photo of the airport on Wikipedia, my guess is the plane waiting to take off just pulled up too close to the runway. Maybe thinking he would be cleared right away?

I still don't quite understand why it caught fire?

Tragic all around though.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16251 times:
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Quoting SuseJ772 (Reply 20):
Looking at the photo of the airport on Wikipedia, my guess is the plane waiting to take off just pulled up too close to the runway. Maybe thinking he would be cleared right away?

Reports spoke of a strong gust of wind catching the landing aircraft just prior to touchdown and making it stray off centre.



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User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15747 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 13):
it must have been a Russian Airforce freighter



Quoting Ham (Reply 15):
was it a military transporter?

- as per link from reply 17, not exactly: both aircraft were of Interior Ministry troops


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10735 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15690 times:

How dreadful to think about what happened, being killed in a plane at a time no one on board would have thought to be in danger.
Do we know more about the two aircraft involved, were both military freighters? As both caught fire, does it mean both are destroyed?


User currently offlineBushman From Russia, joined Jan 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14412 times:



Quoting SuseJ772 (Reply 20):
I still don't quite understand why it caught fire?

Wing that hit the cockpit contained fuel. It splashed around and caused fire on both airlpanes.

Quoting Na (Reply 23):
Do we know more about the two aircraft involved, were both military freighters? As both caught fire, does it mean both are destroyed?

The plane with the destroyed cockpit is reported to be Il-76MD RA-76825 based in Nizhny Novgorod and belonging to Russian Air Force. Here is the photo:
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The second one is Il-76MD RA-76827 also based in Nizhny Novgorod.
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Photo © Senior


Both planes most likely will be written off.


25 Post contains links Bushman : An interesting link here: http://af1461.livejournal.com/237940.html On the second picture pointer 1 shows holding point of the rumway at Makhachkala.
26 NA : Thanks for the info. Interesting, Seems like the one hit was actually mostly responsible for thsi. Sure fog can be a reason, otherwise it could only
27 COA735 : I always hated airports with no parallel taxiway. A hold short at a end of a runway seems safer than a hold short in the middle of the runway.
28 RFields5421 : Quote possible. The cockpit damage is alot like the Shorts 360 at CDG. Now I'm certainly no expert on Russian Air Force operations - but most militar
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