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Long Range Vs Medium Range  
User currently offlineBubbaJin From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5881 times:

I have always wondered what constitutes an aircraft being considered a long range aircraft, medium range, short range etc. Is their a certain distance the aircraft can travel or the amount of pax it can carry? Any help would be appreciated!

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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2681 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

short haul = less than 3 hours (less than 1350nm)

medium haul = 3 to 6 hours (1350nm to 2700nm)

long haul = more than 6 hours. (more than 2700nm)

In the above circumstances, it is assumed the flight involves a jet aircraft travelling at 450nm/hr, which is standard for most jets today.

Thenoflyzone

[Edited 2009-01-20 16:30:02]


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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25978 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5717 times:



Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
short haul = less than 3 hours (less than 1350nm)

medium haul = 3 to 6 hours (1350nm to 2700nm)

long haul = more than 6 hours. (more than 2700nm)

Just curious what source you are quoting for those definitions? I think you'll find a wide variety of definitions for generic terms like that depending on the context.


User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 5644 times:



Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 1):
short haul = less than 3 hours (less than 1350nm)

medium haul = 3 to 6 hours (1350nm to 2700nm)

long haul = more than 6 hours. (more than 2700nm)

Those are purely subjective values. And, if you ask me, they are rather outdated.
There is no official definition of what constitutes short, medium, long, or ultra-long haul.

Here are my own definitions:

1. Minihaul: Any flight up to two hours duration. Examples: Chicago-Cleveland, Orlando-Atlanta, Madrid-Barcelona

2. Short haul: Any flight between two and five hours duration. Examples: New York-Miami, Denver-Boston, Tokyo-Seoul

3. Medium haul: Any flight between five and nine hours duration. Examples: New York-London, Tokyo-Bangkok, London-Cairo

4. Long haul. Any flight between nine and 14 hours duration. Examples: New York-Tokyo, London-Johannesburg, Paris-Hong Kong

5. Ultra-Long Haul. Any flight over 14 hours duration. Examples: New York-Singapore, New York-Hong Kong, New-York-Boston (during weather delays).


If you're seated in category 1, chances are your ears are ringing and your knees are getting bruised. That's because you're wedged into a turboprop or a regional jet. If you're seated in categories 4 or 5, pray that you're in first or business class aboard a non-US carrier.

To me, nothing better personifies the beauty of air travel than the advancement of long range flying -- the idea, previously inconceivable, that distant, exotic continents are but a single, simple journey away. And for you, the consumer? A look on Travelocity shows that a super-saver from Singapore Airlines, on the longest flight in the world, is selling for as little as $815 round trip. To put it another way, that's about five cents a mile.

Patrick Smith



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31375 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 5634 times:
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I tend to only use the terms with widebodies. Using Boeing's definitions for such planes:

A market - 3,900 to 5,200 nautical miles (7,220 to 9,630 km)
B market - 5,800 to 7,700 nautical miles (10,740 to 14,260 km)
C market - 8,000 nautical miles (14,815 km) and greater

So I'd consider "medium range" to be A market. This is mostly handled by A330-300s, 777-200s, 777-300s and (often de-rated) 777-200ERs.

"Long range" would be the B market. Here you have the A330-200, A340 family, the 777-200ER and 777-200LR, the 777-300ER, 747-400 and A380-800.

"Ultra long range" is the C market, held by the A340-500 and 777-200LR.


User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2681 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 5600 times:

Mini haul, Ultra long haul, A market, B market......what's next, super mini haul, super ultra long haul, Z market...... Come on guys....Talk about overcomplicating....

Bubba, stick to reply 1.

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

Everyone seems to have their own opinions, but I generally think of them as:
Regional: Hour or less. Usually flown by turboprops, sometimes RJs etc. Examples Vancouver-Kelowna, Vancouver-Seattle.
Short Haul: 1-4 hours. Usually flown by RJs, 737s, A320s, etc.
Examples: Vancouver-Whitehorse, Vancouver-Calgary.
Medium Haul: 4-8 hours. Usually flown by 737s, A320s, 757s, A330s, and others.
Examples: Vancouver-Honolulu, Vancouver-Toronto.
Long Haul: 8-14 hours. Usually flown by A340s, 777s, 747s, A380s, etc.
Examples: Vancouver-Tokyo, Vancouver-Frankfurt.
Ultra Long Haul: 14+ Hours. Basically where you need airplanes like the 777-200LR or A340-500 to do it. Example Vancouver-Sydney.

Also can be looked at by aircraft...
Most turboprops, RJs, etc = Regional flying
CRJ, 737, A320, etc. = Short range
A300, A320, 737NG, 757, A-market 777s, A330s, = Medium range
A330, A340, 777-ERs, 747, 787, A380 = Long haulers
777-200LR, A340-500 = Ultra long haul


All of the above are roughly about give or take ish, and based on opinion.


CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineBubbaJin From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5442 times:

Thanks for the responses. Like most of you said I guess it really sums up to opinion. Although this long range example had me rolling on the floor:

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 3):
New-York-Boston (during weather delays).



User currently offlineAviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5091 times:



Quoting BubbaJin (Reply 7):
Thanks for the responses. Like most of you said I guess it really sums up to opinion. Although this long range example had me rolling on the floor:

Thanks. Actually, those examples were taken from an article I wrote about long-haul flights. You can read it here...
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2005/11/18/askthepilot162/

PS



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
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