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British Airways 777-300ER Questions  
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13090 times:

Hey Guys:

I just have two questions regarding the 777-300ER's BA will be getting next year, I need this info as I am doing a BA fantasy livery on the 777-300ER template, and this information will make my design a bit more accurate and authentic.

1.) What will the registrations be for the first set of 777-300ERs ?

2.) Will these planes carry the title "777-336ER" or will it be something else?

Thanks Guys!


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6867 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13011 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):

2.) Will these planes carry the title "777-336ER" or will it be something else?

The two being bought direct should certainly be -336ER but the four leased examples may have other designations.


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7387 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12231 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):
2.) Will these planes carry the title "777-336ER" or will it be something else?

If history is anything to go by the aircraft will carry small "BOEING 777" titles on the lower rear fuselage. Here it is worth noting that no BA aircraft has ever carried more detailed titles (such as "BOEING 767 300", "BOEING 767ER" or "BOEING 767 300ER") (although when appropriate their 763s carry red "ETOPS" titles on their nose-wheel doors to distinguish those aircraft from 763s in their short-haul fleet.

The most likely positioning of the "BOEING 777" titles will be level with and aft of the base of the rear cabin door. However I believe the equivalent titles were positioned forward of both the "Royal Mail" logo (which is always - well, nearly always - painted on the lower rear fuselage forward of the fuselage registration on the left side of the aircraft only) and the fuselage registration itself on the last one or two 752s delivered to BA by Boeing back in the late 1990s. However all 772s delivered since then have had the equivalent titles in the "normal" BA position.

Interestingly BA does not seem to favour the identification of the aircraft type by such titles. Although such titles have been present on all (or nearly all?) the aircraft delivered to BA by Boeing since the mid 1980s, they have always disappeared the first time BA has repainted the aircraft. On Airbus aircraft they have only been present on the first half-dozen or so 319s when they were delivered. They never appeared on the rest of the BA 319 fleet or on any of their 320s or 321s. As all the early BA 319s havew been repainted since delivery no BA Airbus aircraft now carries "Airbus" titles in any form.

The only other markings on BA aircraft other than the very small red safety marks, the main 'BRITISH AIRWAYS" titles, the "Speedmarque" on the upper forward fuselage and the Union Flag tail markings are the abbreviated registration letters on both the top of the tail and the nose-wheel door.

History again shows that the last three letters of the registration are likey to be painted on the nose-wheel door (as is the case with BA's 763 and 772 fleets allthough their 744s have only the last two letters in this position as do their 734s and Airbus fleets). You are going to have to take a guess on the abbreviated registration on the top of the tail. All aircraft recently repainted by BA seem to have the last three letters painted on the tail top although previosly only two letters had been painted. And while their 744s have them positioned at the rear of the tail and the Airbus aircraft in the centre top tail, their 772s, 763s and 734s have them at the front top of the tail.

Another possible variation will be the internal cabin configuration and how this will impact whether or not any of the potential cabin windows will be blanked out on BA's 773s.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12408 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12108 times:

No registrations announced as yet, as far as I'm aware.

I think the 77Ws are leased from GECAS, in which case they would be -36N ERs, like the Emirates aircraft.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10426 times:

Hey Guys:

Here is my BA fantasy livery Id love to hear your thoughts!


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I did the regi G-VZEA as most BA 777's are G-V**** or G-Z**** so I figured id go along with it! Id love to hear your feedback!


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User currently offlineRutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2960 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10175 times:
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Kaitak

Actually even leased aircraft built to BA order have carried the -36 Boeing designator to-date with just one exception and that was a very short term leased in but delivered new B757-2Y0 G-BPEH used by the Caledonian charter division.

I expect that to remain the case and all will be 777-336ER models.

All other exceptions in history have been used machines going right back to the B707-400
with two machines G-ARWD and G-ARWE being 465 ordered by Cunard Eagle.

SXDFC why an OA 343 ? but actually like your livery proposal very much


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10057 times:



Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 5):
SXDFC why an OA 343

Because I love OA  Wink I love Southwest too but I figured this was probably the only username with a Greek regi on a-net when I signed up in Dec 2007, that might have changed now though.

Quoting Rutankrd (Reply 5):
but actually like your livery proposal very much

Glad you liked it! Maybe it might actually be on the 773ER  Wink



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9290 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4):

Here is my BA fantasy livery Id love to hear your thoughts!

My first glimpse impression was "What did Delta and/or Air France do to their airplane?!"

It's a pretty livery, but it really doesn't say "BA" to me until you read the text and look at it long enough to see the union jack.

Tom.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8278 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8778 times:
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Since these are all new to BA, I would expect all of them to be 777-336ER. I would expect BA to have 20-30 77W's in the fleet until 2020.

User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8353 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4):
Here is my BA fantasy livery Id love to hear your thoughts!

I like it. I love the British Airways on the bottom half. Very well done.



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User currently offlineAriis From Poland, joined Sep 2004, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8328 times:

Quoting SXDFC (Thread starter):
1.) What will the registrations be for the first set of 777-300ERs ?

I've just found by accident that GeminiJets website is announcing new 1:400 diecast model (to be released sometime soon) that happens to be BA's 77W - registered "G-BAER". Could be fictional (obviously could just stand for BA 773ER, but we know that BA does like playing such word games), but as far as I know GeminiJets has always used real registrations for its models, so you never know - they might have got some clues from an insider. Only makes you wonder how the subsequent ships will be registered.

Go here:

http://www.geminijets.com/database/index.php?r_product=1

and choose operator - "British Airways" and aircraft type - "B777-300" and hit "Go!".

HTH

EDIT: Clicking on the Item No link will pop-up the photo of the model.

[Edited 2009-01-24 16:22:36]

[Edited 2009-01-24 16:24:01]


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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8064 times:



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 7):
"What did Delta and/or Air France do to their airplane?!"

Gave it a bath and new paint job  Wink

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 7):
It's a pretty livery, but it really doesn't say "BA"

Thank you for the comment, Not being mean- I mean this in a good way, to you what does say "BA" this way the next time I do a fantasy scheme I can put those contributions to it.

Quoting Ariis (Reply 10):

Already have it pre-ordered, and I believe this is a fictionus regi, they just put it there for the sake of it having a registration. Unless theres something I dont know about? I do have a BA A380 model too  Wink Thank you for your comment.



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7973 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 11):
to you what does say "BA" this way the next time I do a fantasy scheme I can put those contributions to it.

I had to think about this for quite a while...liveries are so "gut reaction" that it's often hard to put to words.

After staring at a bunch of BA photos, I think what thew me is the lack of a prominent blue belly...your new livery, though it looks really nice, reduces the size of this element to such a degree that it didn't grab me the way the existing livery does.

As a result, your new livery looks much more "eurowhite" than the current BA livery, which may be why my brain jumped to Air France rather than BA.

I hope that's helpful, and please don't think I'm being negative...it looks good! It just doesn't look BA to me, but that's purely in the eye of the beholder and it's hard for me to explain.

Tom.


User currently offlinePegasus1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7404 times:



Quoting Ariis (Reply 10):
I've just found by accident that GeminiJets website is announcing new 1:400 diecast model (to be released sometime soon) that happens to be BA's 77W - registered "G-BAER". Could be fictional (obviously could just stand for BA 773ER, but we know that BA does like playing such word games), but as far as I know GeminiJets has always used real registrations for its models, so you never know - they might have got some clues from an insider. Only makes you wonder how the subsequent ships will be registered.

This reg is from a sequence allocated in 1972 and is held by a light aircraft, so is definitely ficticious. UK marks are never re-used once issued so GeminiJets is simply taking a voyage of fancy/fantasy on this occasion. Current allocations are in the G-C... range, or later if an out-of-sequence reg is chosen, so we could have fun speculating on all the possibilities that BA may be toying with. As you say, BA like playing these word games, but it's anybody's guess as to what they'll choose for the 773ER. As they chose G-ZZZA... for the original order, on the basis that 'ZZZ' resembles 777, maybe they'll choose something like G-ZZEA etc?


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7387 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7056 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 11):
Already have it pre-ordered, and I believe this is a fictionus regi, they just put it there for the sake of it having a registration.



Quoting Pegasus1 (Reply 13):
This reg is from a sequence allocated in 1972 and is held by a light aircraft, so is definitely ficticious.

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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7387 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7031 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 14):
It is a Cosmic Wind

Found a photo of it:

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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2422 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6722 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4):

Not quite as good s this one would be.


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User currently offlineAriis From Poland, joined Sep 2004, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6270 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 15):

Haha, I should have attempted search for that rego first myself. No, that is definitely not a 77W  Wink.

If I was to guess on not-accidental registration, I would bet on G-ZZEA. What about G-EOOA or G-EERA? (based on 300 and 3ER in Leetspeak)

FAO



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User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4859 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Has the seating disposition been announced ? If so would appreciate if someone would post the detail.

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5586 times:



Quoting SunriseValley (Reply 18):
Has the seating disposition been announced ? If so would appreciate if someone would post the detail.

No it hasn't. However it is due to feature all new first, WT+ and WT seats. The current Club World will be retained.



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