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Qantas A380 Grounded In Los Angeles  
User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 739 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 34617 times:

I was just checking around some news sites and it appears that an A380 was grounded in LAX.

Qantas A380 grounded in Los Angeles

A Qantas A380 has been grounded at Los Angeles airport, halting travel plans for almost 450 passengers bound for Sydney due to a minor technical issue.

Passengers on board the Nancy-Bird Walton, Qantas' first airbus were left waiting on the tarmac for over four hours last night due to low oil pressure in one of the engines. It is the first time one of Qantas' three A380 planes have been grounded.

"We've boarded passengers, [the captain has] started the engine and he's received an indication light in the cockpit of low oil pressure in one of the engines," a Qantas spokeswoman said.

More available here

http://www.smh.com.au/news/travel/qa....html?sssdmh=dm16.357386&from=top5


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User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2694 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 34616 times:

How does a flight cancellation make the news?

Ah, I see the last line:

"The Herald had a journalist on the flight."


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 34592 times:

And therefore through the sensationalization of something small the A380 must be unsafe.

Next "are you overweight and want to loose those extra pounds". And when we return, "Dogs...they are cute."

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25137 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 34401 times:



Quoting Flyboysp (Thread starter):
It is the first time one of Qantas' three A380 planes have been grounded.

As I recall QF was AOG in NAN following a medical diversion in December also.

Also while on the topic, a EK 380 is grounded at LHR also at the moment awaiting an engine change.



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User currently offlineHNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 33703 times:



Quoting Centrair (Reply 2):
And therefore through the sensationalization of something small the A380 must be unsafe.

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too. The A-380 get lots of positive publicity when it begins service to a new market, as it probably should. However, with that comes the high visibility that will cause less than positive press when something goes wrong. Just the way it goes.



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User currently offlineAirlineBrat From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 33570 times:

Someone must have dropped their I-Pod in the water closet.  sarcastic 


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User currently offlineTheCommodore From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 2844 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 27747 times:

I guess there were no other "low oil pressure" delays to speak of anywhere in the world, on any other aircraft type yesterday...  cheeky 

Nobody likes a "tall Poppy" in Australia and it was a Sydney Morning Herald journalist who offered up this gem, in the public interest of course.



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User currently offlineLee41 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 27096 times:

What was wrong with the aircraft?

User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 26989 times:



Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 6):
"low oil pressure"

Wasn't the "low oil pressure" warning one of the warning signs of a fuel leak that the pilots got in the Air Transat a332 incident? Not saying that was the case here of course.

But I agree with everyone else, this is really a non-event. Except for the pax of course, who got their flight cancelled.

Quoting HNL-Jack (Reply 4):
Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too. The A-380 get lots of positive publicity when it begins service to a new market, as it probably should. However, with that comes the high visibility that will cause less than positive press when something goes wrong. Just the way it goes.

Agreed here, the a380 continues to get a lot of media attention, with that comes these negative articles, which are luckily largely outnumbered by positive ones.



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User currently offlineTISTPAA727 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 327 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 26882 times:
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Quoting Goboeing (Reply 1):
How does a flight cancellation make the news?

I was thinking the exact same thing. No news here but since a reporter was on the flight, it was a chance to partially sensationalize a non-event.  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineF27friend From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 26348 times:



Quoting Goboeing (Reply 1):
How does a flight cancellation make the news?

Ah, I see the last line:

"The Herald had a journalist on the flight."

The journo was probably on a freeby and needed a story? Gimme a break, these things happen. All airlines have had grounding involving new aeroplanes at one time or another. I expect the A380s are not immune.



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User currently offlineEuclid From South Africa, joined Apr 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 25325 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 8):
Wasn't the "low oil pressure" warning one of the warning signs of a fuel leak that the pilots got in the Air Transat a332 incident? Not saying that was the case here of course.

No. High oil pressure, low oil temperature.


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4248 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24720 times:



Quoting Goboeing (Reply 1):
How does a flight cancellation make the news?

Because its the A380 and its not supposed to have any problems!!  Smile

Clearly it was a very slow news day.



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User currently offlineA10WARTHOG From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24380 times:

You will see the same thing when the 787 goes in to service.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24339 times:



Quoting Flyboysp (Thread starter):
A Qantas A380 has been grounded .......due to a minor technical issue.

If "low oil pressure" is a minor technical issue, what is considered a important issue?


User currently offlineA10WARTHOG From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23944 times:

Quoting 474218 (Reply 14):
If "low oil pressure" is a minor technical issue, what is considered a important issue?

It really is minor, once you find the problem. Normally they are easy to fix. A major issue would be a structure repair, leaking gear. Now if it turns into a engine change, then I would make it a major issue. But even those happen every day.

[Edited 2009-01-27 07:50:25]

User currently offlineFlymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23892 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Also while on the topic, a EK 380 is grounded at LHR also at the moment awaiting an engine change.

What's the story here? Tried a search but nothing came up. What happened to the engine?


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19559 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23822 times:

This is one reason you avoid brand-new planes, ships, etc. You give them a few months to work out the kinks.

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22826 times:



Quoting A10WARTHOG (Reply 15):
It really is minor, once you find the problem.

That is the problem, finding the problem. It was originally scheduled to depart at 10:30 PM and rescheduled for mid-day departure the next day. No airline looks a 14 hour delay as a minor issue!


User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22704 times:



Quoting Flyboysp (Thread starter):
"We've boarded passengers, [the captain has] started the engine and he's received an indication light in the cockpit of low oil pressure in one of the engines," a Qantas spokeswoman said.

Oh yes, the indication lights.  Wow!



User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22564 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Also while on the topic, a EK 380 is grounded at LHR also at the moment awaiting an engine change.

I did wonder why it was sat on a remote stand yesterday.



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User currently offlineChrisM001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 72 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22235 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Also while on the topic, a EK 380 is grounded at LHR also at the moment awaiting an engine change.

Apparently no engine change will be happening at LHR for the EK A380, they are going to fly it non-revenue on three engines back to Dubai.


User currently offline4EVERVARIG From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22189 times:

With any machine, be it an A380, a 747, a Lexus, BMW or a Chevy, you will occasionally have mechanical glitches. Thank heavens that this malfunction was discovered early enough to remedy it on the ground and not at 35,000 feet up in the air with a cabin full of panicked passengers.

As always happens when incidents like this is reported, Anti-Airbus people will make the argument that the A-380 is unsafe and bad, others will try to convince you that Qantas is run by a whole bunch of incompetent people, and other will say that LAX is not fit for such a wonderful aircraft like the A380 and doesn't deserve such a high quality airline like Qantas.

Be as it may, just go back in time when the first 747 was delivered to PANAM. PANAM had so much trouble with the 747 that if memory serves me right, didn't PANAM substitute the 747 for a 707 on its inaugural flight to LHR because of the 747's malfunction? Compared to that, I guess the A380 is not doing so bad after all... Just my 2 cents


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21511 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 22137 times:



Quoting Centrair (Reply 2):
Next "are you overweight and want to loose those extra pounds".

Yes. Tell me more!

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 6):
I guess there were no other "low oil pressure" delays to speak of anywhere in the world, on any other aircraft type yesterday...

Well, none that stranded 450 people.

That's what you can expect when you build the largest pax plane. When something goes wrong, the most number of people possible are inconvenienced, and it makes news every now and again.

It was the same way when the 747 first flew. Delays were well reported and for the first few months, the plane had a spotty reputation. Things improved since then...  Wink



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User currently offlineSparkingwave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 21399 times:



Quoting 4EVERVARIG (Reply 22):
didn't PANAM substitute the 747 for a 707 on its inaugural flight to LHR because of the 747's malfunction? Compared to that, I guess the A380 is not doing so bad after all... Just my 2 cents

No, that's a mistake. Pan Am substituted another 747 for the 747 that didn't work.

At least for the QF A380 it was a small problem that was easily fixed. I'd rather have a story like that than a story about something worse!



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25 A10WARTHOG : I have no clue how the events went, but lets say that the problem was found during post-flight or pre-flight. You start T/S, maybe takes a couple hou
26 Ikramerica : And is the plane grounded, or did it just have a 4 hour delay. A 4 hour delay is not "grounded." QF has 4 hour delays all the time! By that logic, the
27 BTCCMan : The thread title is somewhat sensationalist, don't you think Flyboysp? If an aircraft is grounded, it is banned from flying by an authority - what the
28 Post contains images Khobar : Engine falling off. [Edited 2009-01-27 09:41:11]
29 YULWinterSkies : Because the said flight is operated by an A380.... And the A380 is the new Australian flagship and has been awaited for so long (well, it's QF's flag
30 Khobar : The A380's been flying for almost 4 years now.
31 Mham001 : I've seen two posters claim that is or will happen but I haven't seen any of that here or in the media. Where are you seeing this?
32 Khobar : Do you really think it's a fair comparison given there's been nearly 40 YEARS worth of learning and improving incorporated into the A380?
33 Col : I feel sorry for this guy, he came within 10 to 15 minutes of having a real interesting story, a light coming on in flight!! Fuel dumping, fire trucks
34 ClassicLover : Yeah, the 747 Clipper Young America went tech due to the engines, which Pratt & Whitney had major issues with. Substitude was Clipper Victor (which w
35 757ops : SQ Have A380 cancellations or delays at LHR all the time due to Mechanical issues, normally electrical or Steering lock problems
36 Kappel : Thanks, I stand corrected... Indeed, it doesn't matter how long it's been flying, it will always have tech issues now and then, like any other aircra
37 Ikramerica : Yep. 1 in 50 is acceptable for a young model. Once it hits 1 in 150, it becomes stellar. The A380 is on it's way there, from what I understand.
38 Post contains images Confuscius : Pretty simple solution: Add oil.
39 BoeingVista : Now a 3 engine ferry of an A380 would be an interesting story, does anybody have more information about what happened to the GP7200?
40 Alessandro : So how is the reliability rate nowadays for the A380? Yes, 23 of them been flying so far, 1st flight in 2005, commercially since 2007, more than the
41 BA0284 : According to the LHR google group an Atlas Air 747 Landed at LHR today from DXB as EK9971, supposedly with an engine on board. The group said they ex
42 Piskoto : That's why my EK flight EK001 on Friday has been downgraded to a B77W.... Won't they manage to fix the A6-EDD by Friday?
43 BoeingVista : A6-EDD was only delivered on 30/12/08 so at least its still under warranty how many cycles would they have put on it in a month, 30-40? Whatever issu
44 Khobar : Eh? All the time? Due to mechanical issues???
45 Voyager747 : Here we go! I guess it was about time for problems to rise in a A380. And I might fly with QF in July.I am glad that it was a minor problem.
46 Prebennorholm : Of course it is always better that malfunctions happen on the ground. But if it had happened at 35,000 feet, then the crew had shut down that engine
47 4EVERVARIG : Don't worry...this thread is still too young...the loonies will come out of the bin soon enough... Regardless of the 40 years of history preceding th
48 Jetfuel : QF12 Sydney still shows Cancelled
49 777STL : This isn't the first time a 380 has gone tech and it isn't indicative of anything. Crap happens.
50 Col : Not me I am afraid, Khobar comments. Can't get enough 380's in service for me, just wish NW and UA could replace their 744's with them!
51 NRA-3B : I saw the QF A380 in question at about 3:00 this afternoon(Tues 1/27), parked in the north maintenance area with cowlings open on the #1 engine. Don't
52 EK413 : I'm surprised today's SYD-LAX QF011 which was canceled due to the A380 U/S in LAX didn't capture any media attention... To prevent any further disrup
53 LAXspotr : Might someone have any information as to the tentative, new, departure time for VH-OQA which is temporarily stuck at LAX? It would be a real treat if
54 Airvan00 : I suspect it will be 2230 (QF12) or 2315 (QF94) on Wednesday evening. As both those flights are scheduled to be A388. The inbound A388 flights have b
55 LAXspotr : Ahh, Bollocks!! Cheers mate. - Josh May
56 Leezyjet : It didn't. It was scheduled to come in last night around 21:00 ish, but has been delayed until tonight at EK's request. From what I heard they were l
57 Ikramerica : Sounds like EK needs those 748Fs ASAP so they can have their own aircraft available to ferry A380 engines around. With an eventual fleet of 50+ A380s,
58 TristarSteve : I was sitting on board BA778 this morning at the holding point for 27R, and the Emirates A380 was taking off. I wondered why it sat so long on the th
59 Col : They should have bought RR
60 Ikramerica : RR go tits up too. It's the nature of engines. Not to mention the whole bird strike threat, that can take a perfectly good engine out anywhere in the
61 Leezyjet : Cheaper and quicker than sending a new engine/tools/staff out to where the a/c is stuck. I guess the first plan was to send the freighter out to LHR,
62 413X3 : are people that used to sensationalist news reports, where anything that doesn't have a body count shouldn't be "news worthy"? Of course it is news.
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