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JetBlue To Begin Flying Out Of LAX  
User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 554 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11025 times:
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...etblue29-2009jan29,0,3445743.story

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JetBlue Airways Corp. is expected to announce Thursday that it will begin flying out of Los Angeles International Airport with daily nonstop service to Boston and New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.

The long-planned but delayed service, which is expected to begin in late spring, could help ignite a transcontinental fare war at LAX, especially for flights to Boston.

At LAX, JetBlue is expected to use Terminal 6, a location that just a few months ago was occupied by start-up Virgin America.




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User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1531 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10988 times:

This will drive down yields even more. Delta's up to 8 flights, VX is now flying. UA is looking really smart for having PS because there's no way they would be able to compete without it. Does this affect AS moving to T6 or DL getting more gates?


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10959 times:

Ohh.. yet ANOTHER airline on this route.. interesting....


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User currently offlineJetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2937 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10942 times:

Woohoo! I'm glad that fuel prices have come down enough to offset the weaker economy in this decision. It's nice to see JetBlue is still playing strategically in this environment.

I wonder if the frequencies will still be 3x JFK and 1x BOS.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10948 times:

Goes exactly per plan - Jetblue told LAWA last year it would a decision in January and here we are.


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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10897 times:

Terminal 6 seems to be the consistent choice for whatever new random domestic carrier that decides to start service to LAX. With CO, UA, and DL already there, are there really that many free gates available for the taking?

User currently onlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10584 times:



Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 5):
With CO, UA, and DL already there, are there really that many free gates available for the taking?

UA acts as "landlord" to the smaller airlines in T6 and basically sub-leases UAs gates to them on an hourly basis.



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User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16945 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10566 times:

Coincidentally I believe the DOT told VX to quit hiding their stats Silly


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10503 times:



Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 5):
Terminal 6 seems to be the consistent choice for whatever new random domestic carrier that decides to start service to LAX.

It used to be T3, but VX swapped with the "random" carriers, so now it's T6.

My guess is it will eventually be T3 again when AS moves into T6 (which is what everyone is saying is going to happen).



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User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10345 times:

Well, its about time! I am glad to see JetBlue enter LAX and believe they will be successful because of the presence of the many loyal frequent fliers of JetBlue in the surrounding airports. Though - it will be interesting to see if this effects LGB or BUR routes. I'm sure too much. Anyways, congrats JetBlue!  Smile


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1973 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10260 times:

Wow, I'm surprised they'd try it now. Anyone know the flight schedules? This makes 32 destinations from BOS! Yay!


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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10134 times:

This is much welcomed news, I am personally a fan of B6 always loved their service and to be honest they are the best serving domestic from JFK and FLL to all my US destinations.


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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10109 times:

Way to go, JetBlue! Does anyone know when this service will launch? Will it coincide with a frequency decrease on another route so that planes can become available?


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User currently offlineCaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2613 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10096 times:



Quoting Soxfan (Reply 12):
Way to go, JetBlue! Does anyone know when this service will launch? Will it coincide with a frequency decrease on another route so that planes can become available?

Does anyone know what the frequency will be like also?



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User currently offlineIcebird757 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 656 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9809 times:

I am suprised that it's T6. This should be an interesting day for announcements.


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9780 times:

So, as stated, T6 how houses: UA, DL, CO, F9, FL, SY,

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 8):
My guess is it will eventually be T3 again when AS moves into T6 (which is what everyone is saying is going to happen).

Wait wait wait... T6 doesn't have a hundred gates! They already have UA, SY, F9, CO, FL, CM, and NK. Now they want to add the daily schedule of AS?!?! A few years back, T6 used to be a ghost town, but now it's ridiculous! I'd like to see how they cram all these flights into 13 gates.



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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9537 times:



Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 10):
Wow, I'm surprised they'd try it now. Anyone know the flight schedules? This makes 32 destinations from BOS! Yay!

I seriously hope this does not chase UA off the BOS-LAX route. They are already down to only 1 daily flight. BOS-LAX will now have 4 carriers running 9 x daily flights on the route (during peak when AA runs 4 x daily). While the market is large, I think 9 daily flights, plus another 3 daily (3 x daily during peak) to LGB may be too much.


User currently offlineJetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2937 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9503 times:

2x BOS, 2x JFK, beginning in June. Straight from Barger's mouth.


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9454 times:

Could these new routes that are being added are because of the buzz about Virgin America's financial whoas?


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User currently offlineB6MoneyGuyJFK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9455 times:



Quoting Caribbean484 (Reply 13):
Does anyone know what the frequency will be like also?

New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) New York (JFK)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
9:00 a.m. - 11:53 a.m. 12:50 p.m. - 9:29 p.m.
6:55 p.m. - 10:12 p.m. 11:05 p.m. - 7:23 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --



Boston (BOS) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) Boston (BOS)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
10:45 a.m. - 1:52 p.m. * 2:45 p.m. - 11:16 p.m. *
7:55 p.m. - 11:07 p.m. 11:59 p.m. - 8:25 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --
* Flight does not operate on Saturdays



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User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2153 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9396 times:



Quoting B6MoneyGuyJFK (Reply 19):
New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) New York (JFK)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
9:00 a.m. - 11:53 a.m. 12:50 p.m. - 9:29 p.m.
6:55 p.m. - 10:12 p.m. 11:05 p.m. - 7:23 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --



Boston (BOS) to Los Angeles (LAX) to
Los Angeles (LAX) Boston (BOS)
Depart - Arrive Depart - Arrive
10:45 a.m. - 1:52 p.m. * 2:45 p.m. - 11:16 p.m. *
7:55 p.m. - 11:07 p.m. 11:59 p.m. - 8:25 a.m. (next day)
-- Service begins June 17, 2009 --
-- All times local --
* Flight does not operate on Saturdays

Is this year-round or seasonal?

Would make kind of sense only to have it as a seasonal during the summer when you could make profits rather than chancing it during the winter where there's already loads of demand and they may not actually be profitalble.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4892 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9377 times:

So was that emergency landing part of an exploration mission?  stirthepot 

I don't see why it's needed to fly to LAX. After all, their hub is just down the road...



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9351 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 21):
I don't see why it's needed to fly to LAX. After all, their hub is just down the road...

Well with that same theory then why does CO serve LGA when they have EWR? Why do AA fly to FLL when MIA ia right around the corner?



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6413 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9351 times:

I can't imagine this will help the yield situation on LAX-JFK...


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9238 times:



Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 15):
Wait wait wait... T6 doesn't have a hundred gates! They already have UA, SY, F9, CO, FL, CM, and NK. Now they want to add the daily schedule of AS?!?!

No, SY, F9, FL and NK would move back to T3, which is what I was trying to explain.



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25 Highflier92660 : Is JetBlue is going to advertise the westbound transons from BOS and JFK as nonstops? They've been having to refuel their A320s at Denver lately due t
26 RafflesKing : Wowwww... Lots of new BOS - West coast service announced recently. Woohoo - now I get both Virgin America and Jetblue as choices vs. UA and AA!
27 Cschleic : AS moving to T6? Yes, AS does use a lot of gates. At least there would be better food choices. I haven't been to T6 in years, but it couldn't possibly
28 Post contains links Plateman : Here is the full press release: LOS ANGELES, Jan. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Customer-favorite JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU) today announces plans
29 Kleiner : Just 2? I think this is more of a move to give B6 loyalists options, rather than take away VX pax. VX has 4 nonstops and 4 more connecting to JFK.
30 Richierich : Is JetBlue really any worse than any other carrier at this? Since there are no more than 150 passengers on any given flight, is it safe to assume tha
31 Soxfan : The turnaround times appear pretty short--less than an hour in most cases--which is a little surprising, particularly if they run into headwinds on su
32 LAXintl : JetBlue way back realized that neither BUR, LGB and certainly ONT cannot service "Los Angeles" alone even in combination. There are large areas of ge
33 Dragonflyer : The tech stops are obviously part of JetBlue's "Jetting" campaign. They could not use "Flying", as it is hard to promote that when one is sitting on
34 ChrisNH : Well, if people say we're heading into a deflationary spiral, might as well start with Boston-LAX
35 Atcanobbio : where do you guys think JetBlue would be if they had started operations at LAX instead of LGB? I believe they would've been a HUGE player by now. When
36 Richierich : I don't agree - I think LGB gave them an almost exclusive angle in the LA area. Yeah AA tried competing with two dailies from JFK but that didn't las
37 LAXintl : Sure, but you dont think there are any TrueBlue flyers in LA, or East Coasters that would like LAX over BUR or LGB? I tend to agree. They would likel
38 B752OS : Because the Los Angeles metro area is so sprawled out, either airport can be a nightmare depending on where it is you are going. Luckily both airport
39 Ikramerica : I don't know anyone on the West side (where all the money is) that flies B6, because LAX is so much closer. No matter what some people try to claim, B
40 RJpieces : Has United been in there for a long time? What terminals did some old airlines--Western, Eastern, Pan Am, TWA--operate out of?
41 Platinumfoota : One thing that came to mind and surprise that hasn't been brought up is that LAX can give something to B6 that LGB or BUR cant, international connecti
42 United1 : Western T5 Eastern T6 Pan Am T2 TWA T3 Sometime in the 90s UA reached an agreement with CO to take over some of COs gates in T6 in exchange for some
43 Contrails15 : We all tend to look at pax loads but at this time mail and cargo are Jetblue's cash cow right now. Within the last 6 months the mail and cargo have ro
44 LAXintl : Actualy real home for EA over the decades was T-3. They only shifted to T-6 when under the Texas Air guise until their shut down.
45 United1 : Cool, they did have half of T3 with TW having the other half? or was TW somewhere else originally?
46 LAXintl : T-3 was TWAs since construction with EA leasing 3 or so gates 36-37-38 on the East portion, TW never neeaded the full terminal, so it always rented sp
47 Atcanobbio : OK...right. I agree that it allowed them to serve a good niche. But now they're stuck. They cannot expand. If they want to add a flight to a new city
48 WA707atMSP : A fair number of these flyers also have no say in what airline they fly, because their employer has a corporate travel contract with AA, UA, DL, or C
49 Ikramerica : Actually, a lot of the bigger clients have a contract with AA, UA, DL AND (not or) CO, and can offer a preference for airline... But B6 can more easi
50 Kleiner : LGB was good for an exclusive West Coast presence. With capacity cuts and UA's situation, could they eventually shift their LGB network to LAX?
51 DeltaL1011man : Easy move everyone save DL,UA,CO,CM back over to T3 and move AS into T6.
52 Ikramerica : Move CM to T2...
53 DeltaL1011man : good point. Didn't even think about that.
54 LAXintl : Why? CM has no infrastructure of its own at LAX, its all CO handling on the top and bottom including use of CO lounge.
55 The777Man : They do have their own CSRs that only handle CM, not CO flights As have been discussed before, I don't think AS will fit into T6 even without NK, SY,
56 Ikramerica : Even when CO leaves SkyTeam? I thought CM was going to completely end it's partnership with CO. Or am I mistaken, and they are completely leaving Sky
57 Ikramerica : Doing a search, it seems I got it backward, and Copa is going to join Star. So I would imagine they will use T6/T7 international arrivals gates when C
58 Icebird757 : That is true. We send out a lot of mail in the morning to the east coast as well as cargo on the red eye flights. We also get a lot of through mail f
59 LAXintl : Since we discussed the merits of LAX, here is B6 own thinking in a internal note released last week. As some had mentioned before, LGB & BUR are niche
60 Ikramerica : Should be re-written: aren't convenient. No as. Saying 'as convenient' still clings to the false idea that BUR, and especially LGB, are convenient at
61 LAXintl : They are simply local 'community' airports. I look forward to JetBlue at LAX, and am certain they will attract a whole new group of Angeleno leisure
62 Ikramerica : BUR could easily be convenient if it had better parking, better rental car facilities, more gate and terminal space and jetways, and better freeway a
63 LACA773 : I've been wondering about this for quite sometime as well. Right now AS uses, 30, 31A, 31B, 32, 33A, 33B, & 34 as well as 35 for overflow. That's sev
64 Wjcandee : I just LOVE flying in and out of LGB. Great airport. But if I'm going to the Marina, for example, it's just more convenient to take the little back ro
65 SurfandSnow : I have to disagree. JetBlue is a great airline with a fantastic in-flight experience, but it does not offer a first class product. The high-profile b
66 LAXintl : You are aware UA does not serve anything in the back of the bus even on p.s. besides BoB let alone "full course meals" right? Sure likes of AA & UA w
67 UN_B732 : I hate to say it; but I can't see a JetBlue A320 carrying much cargo with a full pax load on BOS-LAX
68 Wjcandee : Agreed. But, moreover, there are plenty of businesses who are reevaluating their travel expenditures, and "premium service" options like PS are going
69 Ikramerica : Yep. Right now B6 relies on people very local to the airport for O traffic, and otherwise, New Yorkers who are going to LA as a D. But by flying out
70 MAH4546 : My guess is that either VX or B6 is gone by after summer. BOS-LAX is going to a blood bath this summer. It already has the lowest yields of all the m
71 LAXintl : Yes BOS will be the one to watch. However personaly I see United as the one that might fold capacity first as it seems to becoming more proactive mana
72 Flyingcat : Why would they do that? SAN already has B6 service
73 LACA773 : I know many of have talked about this, will B6 ever go ahead and convert some of their 320 orders to the smaller, longer range 319s for the longer tr
74 JetBlueAUS : I've heard this may be a possibility, but honestly... I seriously doubt it.
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