Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9649 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 14332 times:
Establishing themselves more in EWR in preparations of codesharing with CO most likely. With Continental joining Star Alliance near the end of the year, I definitely see Star Alliance carriers moving more flights from JFK to EWR.
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9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14123 times:
This is an interesting but unsurprising development considering CO upcoming entrance into star alliance. Even without the CO equation it makes sense as it will allow AC to cycle aircraft and crews with the YYZ flights allowing for potentially better utilization,CO will only enhance the viability of the YYC and YVR routes. What will be interesting to watch is the upcoming code-sharing and how they decide to co-operate on their existing routes. My guess is that AC will drop it's CRJ 705 routes from YYC and YYZ to IAH and hand them over to CO in-turn I see CO possibly dropping out of the EWR-YYZ route.
A318 From Bahamas, joined Jan 2008, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14046 times:
I hope CO doesn't drop EWR-YYZ. I'm a flight attendant on the Q400 and I love our YYZ and YUL flights. I could do away with some of the passengers we have to/from Canada, however, the layovers are great
Ramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1537 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13879 times:
AC operates out of gates 11 & 12 in A-1. United operates out of 14, 15, 16, 17. As of right now, United has 14 mainline and 4 RJ flights into EWR a day. I believe United ground handles AC ramp at EWR. So I wouldn't see a problem United letting AC use one of their gates if they needed it.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23027 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 13840 times:
Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 14): I would seriously doubt that. There is enough O+D from YYZ-LGA alone to justify those flights. The EWR moves are probably more strategically in line with the CO star alliance move.
The more interesting question is what happens if the LGA perimeter opens up. Prior to this announcement, I would have expected YYC and YVR to move to LGA if that happened. Now, I don't know.
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9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 13787 times:
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 8): Is demand that big or are pax complaining about the CRJ705s? I thought the CRJ705 were a great aircraft and prefer it over a 737...
Nothing really wrong with the CRJ705,rather they will be needed on other domestic routes and trans-border routes.
Quoting A318 (Reply 9): I hope CO doesn't drop EWR-YYZ. I'm a flight attendant on the Q400 and I love our YYZ and YUL flights. I could do away with some of the passengers we have to/from Canada, however, the layovers are great
Wouldn't like to see anyone lose anything in the process,let's just hope there are trade-offs that make up for it. How about CO Q400 service to YTZ? Gosh,what kind of passengers do you get on-board your aircraft?
Pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2243 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 13538 times:
AC will never leave LGA. This is destination traffic and not connecting traffic. Many many people flying into NYC prefer LGA and choose those flights when they could fly to EWR. Hence there are more frequent flights to LGA from YYZ and YUL than to EWR. There is an unused lounge AC nearer their pier than the Red Carpet Lounge and AC was considering turning into a Maple Leaf Lounge however that was shelved due to cutbacks.
I would imagine that since LGA isn't available for YYC and YVR flights, EWR is a much better choice than Kennedy due to the volume of flights that AC has into EWR and staff there already for use. There must be some cost saving opportunities with ground staff. Not to mention the connection opportunities with Star Alliance partners.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13411 times:
Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 7): Actually UA being the dominant tenants at A-1 and not having as many flights as they used to, yes there is all sorts of room. CO Express in A-2 however is a much different story.
COEX has been using some of AA's gates at A-3, I'm sure with their new partnership with UA they will also expand to A-1. Giving COEX gates in A-1, A-2 and A-3. Would not be surprised to see a couple Terminal A carriers move into B-1 now that DL and NWA are consolidating their operations.
Quoting CALMSP (Reply 10): i wasn't referencing gate space, but runway space.
Plenty of gate space at Terminal A and Terminal B.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25356 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13351 times:
If memory correct, AC operated YYC-EWR nonstop for a few years in the 1970s or 80s. At that time I think it was their only EWR service as they had previously moved all their NYC service from JFK to LGA. For many years prior to that all AC flights served JFK. It was a few years later before they began shorthaul service to EWR in addition to LGA.
: Agreed. Also, why operate into 3 airports when you can do the job flying into just 2 ? Additionally, I don't think AC were getting a huge amount of c
: The two AC flights into JFK RON and leave early in the morning...Shouldn't be a problem at EWR.
: and there is a reason for that...........
: Methinks AC's move has zero to do with CO or Star Alliance, and more to do with the fact that EWR is simply closer to AC's traffic base than JFK.
: wooooohooo!!! let the moving of the star carriers to EWR begin
: There isn't much movement to do, really - virtually all the Star carriers that serve NYC already have a presence at EWR, and the ones that don't aren
: And now it looks like CO has already dropped one of its 2 daily YVR-EWR flights... could a code-share on the AC flight be on the horizon and vice vers
: I would have to agree. While LGA is obviously the airport of choice for those living in or visiting Manhattan, EWR is much more accessible from the h
: This is a little interesting. I had a bad experience with AC EWR-YYC via YYZ in December, partly due to incoming flights into EWR being delayed by up
: CO will have zero ability to codeshare or revenue-share with AC within North America prior to the October 25, 2008, separation from SkyTeam unless pe
: no..cost savings..they get to close a station...JFK
: How many employees did AC have at JFK? I thought UA did everything for them, but I guess I was wrong.
: You were correct. There are no AC staff at JFK as UA handles everything. Nonetheless this is a cost saving measure, I'm sure. I believe UA charges qu
: Surely if it had only been about costs and UA's price was a problem, they could have found someone else. They have changed at enough other airports..
: If you are taking a cab into Manhattan or a Town Car, LGA is the airport of choice for travelers on AC due to the numerous routes into the city. The t
: actually, the best way to get into town is to fly to EWR and take our codeshare partner US Helicopter to either JRB/TSS!! Only 8 minutes and you're a
: How long till those folks at YEG see CO and AC code share a to IAH?
: True - I have never used them. I always forget about it - I am more often in Midtown. Have to try that sometime when the budget will allow.
: Anyone poised to take over the AC slots/few facilities at JFK?