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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8914 times:

I read in today's local newspaper two WN flight attendants are competing as teammates in the television show "The Amazing Race"

The race is 40,000 miles around the globe, across nine countries over twenty two days.

I would think two flight attendants for any airline would have a slight advantage in selecting air carriers and routes. The starting line for this race is at Long Beach, CA. The first episode airs Feb 15,


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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8657 times:
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Love the show. It will be interesting to see if its an advantage. Or will they overthink it? Not to mention some of the connections are manipulated/timed for the sponsor airlines. But if they're wise on using travel agencies... they could do very well.

Where I think they'll have a HUGE leg up is convincing other cabin crews to put them up at the front of the aircraft for deboarding.  Wink

The show, unfortunately, downplays the aviation size other than who is first to the airport of if a connection was botched/delayed. The aircraft shown taking off doesn't always match the one the contestants boarded.  Wink

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4247 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 8475 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 1):
Love the show. It will be interesting to see if its an advantage. Or will they overthink it? Not to mention some of the connections are manipulated/timed for the sponsor airlines. But if they're wise on using travel agencies... they could do very well.

I wouldn't think it would necessarily be an advantage. You don't have to be an airline geek to be a FA and, conversely, you don't have to be a FA to know the optimal airlines and connections throughout the world. There are plenty of knowledgeable people on this forum who are not directly connected to the industry. And besides, its not like working for Southwest is going to help much when traveling through SE Asia or sub-Saharan Africa (* I have no idea where this season of the race will take the contestants).

Does anybody know if the contestants use LGB?



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User currently offlineSeattle ops From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8197 times:

I've often thought it would be cool to have 12 teams, each representing an american carrier!

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8122 times:
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Quoting Seattle ops (Reply 3):
I've often thought it would be cool to have 12 teams, each representing an american carrier!

lol

But the show is still recovering from "Amazing race families." An all domestic show did not garner large audiences.

I like the show for the international travel. It amuses me when they have to go out of their way to hub when there are no direct flights.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineMcmax From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7896 times:



Quoting GentFromAlaska (Thread starter):
The starting line for this race is at Long Beach, CA

Technically, the starting line was the Los Alamitos Joint Forces Training Base. Los Alamitos is next to Seal Beach, and is in Orange County.

That being said, I can't wait for the premiere! Does anyone believe the producers will actually match the appropriate airline/airliner to the travel in that episode?  Smile



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7510 times:



Quoting Richierich (Reply 2):
I wouldn't think it would necessarily be an advantage. You don't have to be an airline geek to be a FA and, conversely, you don't have to be a FA to know the optimal airlines and connections throughout the world. Does anybody know if the contestants use LGB?

If the first episode mirrors previous races. The first leg should be a international destination. Unless the teams are directed to depart from a specific airport, knowledge and routing could be an advantage for any team "in the know".

At least on the first leg It will be interesting to see if any of the teams will select LGB, SNA or drive to LAX. I have horrible memories of LA basin traffic.

If Asia is a first destination it might be an advantage to fly to SEA or ANC for example and then down the Aleutians vice flying westerly across the pond to HNL. If the teams a directed east it could benefit to connect in through ORD or ATL vs JFK.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3608 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7501 times:



Quoting Richierich (Reply 2):
You don't have to be an airline geek to be a FA and, conversely, you don't have to be a FA to know the optimal airlines and connections throughout the world. There are plenty of knowledgeable people on this forum who are not directly connected to the industry. And besides, its not like working for Southwest is going to help much when traveling through SE Asia or sub-Saharan Africa (* I have no idea where this season of the race will take the contestants).

Indeed. 99% of the time the only knowledge needed as far as air travel goes is knowing how to operate a travel consolidator website, e.g. Expedia, Travelocity, etc. And honestly, they work for Southwest, how much insider knowledge could they have in the international realm as WN doesn't fly outside of the US? It's not rocket science.....



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User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7419 times:

I love the show, and look forward to a new, exciting season. They usually send the teams to a South American city for their first destination, so I would expect them to fly out of LAX.
And I don't guess the WN F/A's would have much advantage over the other teams. Its usually who arrives at the pre-assigned reservation counter that gets the more advantageous flight.

I LOVE the Amazing Race!!



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User currently offlineKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

I also don't think WN flight attendants will have an advantage. However, if flight attendants from a carrier that flies int'l such as AA, CO or UA then they might have a familiarity advantage at some of the int'l airports.

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1466 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

you are correct....

According to the Amazing Race website...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing...stie_and_jodi_14/bio.php?season=14


There are 2 flight attendants on the show...

Christie Volkmer (37); Jodi Wincheski (40)
Hometown: Choctaw, Okla./ Houston, Texas
Occupation: Flight Attendants
Relationship: Flight Attendants



Good luck to you both!

...and most of all....REPRESENT!


User currently offlineAltairf28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7249 times:

My favorite show also (as my sig suggests)!!! On the first episode they are always given a choice of certain flights (the show buys a certain number of seats on each; for the rest of the season teams are on their own for finding flights). This will be the 6th time the starting line has been in the LA area and every time the first flight has been out of LAX , although a connection is usually required because otherwise the teams would get too spread out. I think all the possible first flights will still be out of LAX as using multiple airports will be too much of a headach for production.

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 1):
Where I think they'll have a HUGE leg up is convincing other cabin crews to put them up at the front of the aircraft for deboarding

Not so sure about this since they aren't allowed to carry any ID other then their passports and the race-issued credit card (which they can only use to book airplane flights) so other crews won't automatically know they're FA's. I don't even think the show will let them wear any WN clothes even though their is no airline currently sponsoring it (AA used to but left after there was a run of 3 straight seasons where flying AA on the last leg arguably caused the dominant team to come in second  Wink ). You'll notice that in the photo (which is always taken at the starting line) they're wearing the "wrong" shade of blue.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 7):
And honestly, they work for Southwest, how much insider knowledge could they have in the international realm as WN doesn't fly outside of the US?

 checkmark . I wonder if they've ever worked for any other airlines.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

For those who may be interested. The initial leg of the AM-RACE 14 is schedule to air at 8:00 PM EST from SoCal. Some of the snow capped mountainous terrain I saw in the televised ads leads me to believe the teams may be routed to Alaska at some point in the race. The teams were routed through ANC on at least two previous races. One season finale took the teams to Girdwood, Alaska.

As it relates to aggressive competitiveness a pair of female teammates have historically pick up the "blonde's" moniker. The two WN flight attendants meet that criteria as well one other team.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6771 times:

Man ya'll seem to diss us WN employees don't know anything about intl traveling just because we only fly domestic.

We DO have benefits to fly intl on other airlines and believe me we use it! We have access to pass bureau much like any other airline does to check out the intl airlines and such.

I was very surprised to hear from a lot of WN employees just how much they knew about intl traveling, I think perhaps it is quite the opposite, because we DON'T fly intl, our employees are MORE interested in where we CAN go and would check it out and do more research than someone who works for an airline that goes intl, she'd be thinking "oh we fly there that's all I know don't need to check anything out"

I guess it works both ways and just depends on the actual employee. But F/A for WN do have a very nice advantage as equally as other airline F/A's.

Alex



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User currently offlineExaauadl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6555 times:

Hey:

They dont look like WN FA's. Their uniforms were quite conservative. Maybe CBS had them do a shoot with generic FA uniforms so as not to give away they work for WN


User currently offlineA340Crew From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 6406 times:

It is swa flight attendants....

off of swalife (our interemployee site)

02-13-09 | SWA Employees Compete in The Amazing Race!
The 14th season of The Amazing Race begins this Sunday and—you’ll never believe it—two Southwest Flight Attendants will be one of the 11 Teams competing for a million dollars! HOU Flight Attendants Christie Volkmer and Jodi Wincheski will embark on the adventure of a lifetime where they will face a multitude of extremes, including the world’s second tallest bungee jump, bone-chilling Siberian temperatures followed by the suffocating heat of India, and an Olympic-sized challenge that leaves teams gasping for air. The Amazing Race 14 premieres this Sunday, February 15, at 8 p.m. ET/PT. Be sure to check your local listings and tune in to cheer on your Fellow Employees!


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6347 times:



Quoting Exaauadl (Reply 14):
Hey:

They dont look like WN FA's. Their uniforms were quite conservative. Maybe CBS had them do a shoot with generic FA uniforms so as not to give away they work for WN

You would be correct, they did do a generic photo shoot, however if that was CBS intention I actually don't know, since I don't work for CBS, however I am pretty sure that was part of the photo shoot.

Alex



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User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6316 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 13):


We DO have benefits to fly intl on other airlines and believe me we use it! We have access to pass bureau much like any other airline does to check out the intl airlines and such.


Exactly. Work for an airline with good interline agreements and you can get just about anywhere in the world.

I think these FAs will have a huge advantage when it comes to making split-second travel decisions. In my experience, there's no better way to hone your travel skills like trying and get back to the States in time for work!

[Edited 2009-02-15 20:40:55]


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 6095 times:

The FA team finished in 10th place, of 11th teams in the opening episode, avoiding elimination by a few seconds. It appears they took either a wrong train between Zurich and Interloken, Switzerland or may have taken the train in the wrong direction. I did miss a few minutes of the show.

They were offered two airline choices out of LAX, Lufthansa and Air France.



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User currently offlineArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 5906 times:



Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 6):
If the first episode mirrors previous races. The first leg should be a international destination. Unless the teams are directed to depart from a specific airport, knowledge and routing could be an advantage for any team "in the know".

At least on the first leg It will be interesting to see if any of the teams will select LGB, SNA or drive to LAX.

I didn't see the episode, but I doubt they would use LGB, SNA, BUR, or ONT. If the first destination is an international destination, I would think the best choice would be out of LAX. A non-stop would save much more time than having to take a connecting flight...


User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5779 times:



Quoting Seattle ops (Reply 3):
I've often thought it would be cool to have 12 teams, each representing an american carrier!

They would to busy bickering about something. LOL or if their are union they will want the show to stop so they can their union break.  Yeah sure

Either that or with all of the furloughs they would be to old to walk very well.  Silly

Sorry just my warped humor.

I hope the WN f/a's do very well.

Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5635 times:
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Quoting Wn676 (Reply 17):
I think these FAs will have a huge advantage when it comes to making split-second travel decisions. In my experience, there's no better way to hone your travel skills like trying and get back to the States in time for work!

Being F/As didn't help them much in getting on the right train though, and that matters a lot more than getting on the right plane on the Amazing Race, if only because there are often very few "wrong choices" the contestants can make at the airport, as the number of available flights to their destinations are often limited, and you're more likely to find people speaking English at an airport than at a train station.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 16):
You would be correct, they did do a generic photo shoot,

The Amazing Race does not allow disclosure of one's employer.

By the way, if anyone wants to know how to operate a NZ Business Class seat courtesy of Phil Keoghan, check out http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/phils_diary.php (after the outside 747 photo shoot)



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