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Guaymas (GYM) Dwindling...why?  
User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3294 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1400 times:

Back in 2000, I recall Aeromexico flying DC-9s daily from Phoenix to Guaymas, which continued onto LaPaz. During that time, I also remember Aerolitoral having Metroliner service to Hermosillo, plus America West Express had two (2) daily Beech 1900s from Phoenix. Now (and for the past 5-6 years) there is only one daily flight from Phoenix on a US Airways Express Dash-8. What happened in Guaymas/San Carlos to cause it to lose so much capacity? Is its proximity to Hermosillo a factor? Are there any rumors of carriers serving GYM in the future?


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25726 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

ClubMed closed up its Sonora Bay location in 2004 or so which was the primary driver of tourist traffic at GYM.


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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1358 times:



Quoting Jmc1975 (Thread starter):
What happened in Guaymas/San Carlos to cause it to lose so much capacity? Is its proximity to Hermosillo a factor?

It certainly doesn't help. There's many daily premium tourist buses going down there from HMO for less than $10. HMO has been an airport with over 1 million pax yearly so it has grown enormously, so has the city of HMO itself.

Quoting Jmc1975 (Thread starter):
Are there any rumors of carriers serving GYM in the future?

I haven't heard much myself but now a cruise line made the port of GYM a permanent stop-over and for the first time in my 20 years going down there the city is actually looking much more inviting. I always thought GYM was kinda run down. San Carlos though has always been pretty nice and lately there's been lots of development going on in both GYM and SC so things could get more interesting shortly.

http://www.guaymas.gob.mx:8086/turismo/en/index.htm

http://www.sancarlosmexico.com/


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Another issue is that since the retirement of Metro's and Saab 340 in Aerolitoral, now Aeromexico Connect, it's very expensive to fly an Emb145.

A new mexican start-up will be based in GDL and probably slowly will take that traffic. This airline aims to take all the Mexican Pacific Coast and all the gap left by ALMA and AeroCalifornia.

g77



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

I think also the addition of other services throughout Mexico from the lower 48 and the simple fact that airfares are much lower into the heart of Mexico then what they use to be are part of the decrease in travel which was a factor to why GYM became so popular back in that time period.

We were just looking at fares, and we're 100 miles n/nw of PHX, and our group came up with the idea to drive double the distance to Mexicali to find lower fares to get into Mexico. We ended up canceling and just booking week in San Felipe cuz that's our favorite close to the border Mexican destination, but if we were going into Mexico, that's what we were probably gonna do. Travelers from other border areas, like San Diego, do the same because the low fare competition inside of Mexico has grown rapidly in past years and airports like Tijuana and Mexicali offer increasing flight services.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5622 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

Short thread on the San Carlos Forum site regarding PHX-GYM fare reductions on US:

http://sancarlosmx.mywowbb.com/forum1/5959.html

-Dave



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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

I was checking seat maps and loads for upcoming PHX-GYM flights and most are sparsely filled to maybe half, so wonder what the catch is to the solo Dash8 flight that they operate that way.

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