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User currently offlineANCsupercub From United States of America, joined May 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14138 times:

I was wondering if there was anyway to find out if schools own their own jet. I was told by a few people that the Gonzaga basketball team has their own jet. Is their anyway I could find out if this is true? And if it is, is it normal for college teams to own their own aircraft?

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User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14129 times:

UND has there own Citation, not sure which kind of citation, probably a mustang but that is just a guess.

User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 14123 times:

I have read a few times that the Kansas Basketball team has their own jet. I remember an article stating that the justification was because the players would be more rested to fully compete on the court as well as do well in school. It was a 727 I believe.

User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 13983 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 1):
UND has there own Citation, not sure which kind of citation, probably a mustang but that is just a guess.

A Cessna 560 twin-engine jet with tail number N42ND


User currently offlineJkudall From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 13968 times:

There are certainly colleges and universities which own aircraft as part of a flight training program or in the case of UND and maybe a few others, own a small jet. But I don't know of any colleges owning large commercial type aircraft for the purposes of transporting teams. It would be considered unnecessary as it is cheaper and easier to just charter aircraft when needed.


Some colleges have had large aircraft, such as Southern Illinois' Boeing 737 donated to them by airlines for the purpose of training and research, but it is decommissioned and doesn't fly anywhere.

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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13875 times:



Quoting Jkudall (Reply 4):
Some colleges have had large aircraft, such as Southern Illinois' Boeing 737 donated to them by airlines for the purpose of training and research, but it is decommissioned and doesn't fly anywhere.

Purdue has a couple of 727's I think.


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13837 times:

These aren't jets, but they are college planes:

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13813 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 5):
Purdue has a couple of 727's I think.

I don't think they fly - they're used for maintenance training or something like that.

Purdue does have a King Air and a Beechjet 400 for transport of the university brass, though.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13772 times:

Does anyone know the story behind Purdue's DC-9?

User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6388 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13752 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 3):
A Cessna 560 twin-engine jet with tail number N42ND

Is this the one that they were using in the 1990's for Thunderstorm penetration tests? I remember taking the aviation department tour there in 1996, and just marvelling at how beat up the radome and leading edges of the wings were from hitting hailstones  Wink It was a really early Citation...



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13747 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 9):
Is this the one that they were using in the 1990's for Thunderstorm penetration tests? I remember taking the aviation department tour there in 1996, and just marvelling at how beat up the radome and leading edges of the wings were from hitting hailstones It was a really early Citation...

That plane crashed in Alaska after a dual flameout while flying through weather (i.e. doing its job). Everyone survived, but the hull was a write-off.

-Mir



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User currently offlineKLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13728 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 1):
UND has there own Citation, not sure which kind of citation, probably a mustang but that is just a guess.



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 3):
A Cessna 560 twin-engine jet with tail number N42ND

Actually, it's N510ND. Usually it's used by President Kelly, and sometimes by the sports teams if needed. Rather a nice airplane and I think it was one of the first Mustangs (it not THE first) to come out of production.

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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6388 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 13731 times:

New Mexico State University also owns, or owned, a Piper Pawnee based at LRU that was used in the 1990's for aerial applications testing for the college of agriculture, and a Cessna 185 Skywagon (not sure what they used the Skywagon for...).


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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13665 times:



Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 11):
Actually, it's N510ND

Actually, it is not. They have two planes.. gone, but it is the plane as stated: Plane used to try and recruit Urban Meyer...but they were to late.

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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13645 times:

Many top universities have a hell of a time justifying having a small corporate aircraft for university use, let alone a larger jet for the use of its sports teams.

FWIW my university has a Citation Bravo, which I believe replaced an older King Air.



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13646 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 13):
Actually, it is not. They have two planes.. gone, but it is the plane as stated: Plane used to try and recruit Urban Meyer...but they were to late.



Quoting KLASM83 (Reply 11):
Actually, it's N510ND.

Actually, you're both right... N42ND is for Notre Dame, N510ND is for North Dakota. People are getting confused about "UND"


User currently offlineANCsupercub From United States of America, joined May 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13592 times:



Quoting Jkudall (Reply 4):
There are certainly colleges and universities which own aircraft as part of a flight training program or in the case of UND and maybe a few others, own a small jet. But I don't know of any colleges owning large commercial type aircraft for the purposes of transporting teams. It would be considered unnecessary as it is cheaper and easier to just charter aircraft when needed.

This is what i figured.


User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1547 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 13590 times:



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 2):
I have read a few times that the Kansas Basketball team has their own jet. I remember an article stating that the justification was because the players would be more rested to fully compete on the court as well as do well in school. It was a 727 I believe.

I've never heard of the University of Kansas owning an airliner. We might be good at basketball, but we're not that good. However, there are 4 planes on the books for the University of Kansas. N1910F, a Cessna C177B (Cardinal), N12800, a Cessna C172M (Skyhawk), N7188C, a C182 (Skylane) and N100KU a Cessna C550 (Citation Ultra).

While, on the darker side (evil) of the state, Kansas State has N235KS, a Citation CJ1. They also own a King air 90, but I can't find the tail number of that off hand.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2389 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13547 times:



Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 15):
People are getting confused about "UND"

Makes sense, Notre Dame would never fly around in a "little" Mustang!  Smile


User currently offlineKITH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 378 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13505 times:

Up until the late 1960's/early 1970's Cornell had their own DC-3 used by administrators and members of athletics teams.
The plane was called "The Very Far Above" a clever riff on Cornell's alma mater "Far Above Cayuga's Water"
The President of Cornell also used to have an antique boat called "The Just Above"
-Matt in KITH


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 822 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13501 times:



Quoting DesertJets (Reply 14):
Many top universities have a hell of a time justifying having a small corporate aircraft for university use

I would assume UND got a pretty nice deal on the mustang as they also ordered 50 or so 172s at the same time.


User currently offlineDODCFR From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13473 times:

IIRC Colorado State University used to have a F-101 Voodoo at Buckley ANGB in the early 80's. But, I never saw it fly in the four years I worked there.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13464 times:



Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 1):
UND has there own Citation, not sure which kind of citation, probably a mustang but that is just a guess.

Yes, we do have a mustang N510ND.



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User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13468 times:

I know this is not what the original poster was asking about, but QX has some university logojets...  


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User currently offlineAtomsareenough From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13456 times:



Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 6):

Could someone please tell me how you embed airliners.net pictures in that nice small format like that?


25 FoxBravo : Sure, it's easy--once you find the photo on airliners.net, just get the photo ID number. If the photo ID is 123456, for example, type < photoid:12345
26 Post contains links and images Burnsie28 : TVNWZ- while Notre Dame may never fly a "little mustang" they would never fly a DC-8 like we did for a while View Large View MediumPhoto © TJ OKe
27 Atomsareenough : Aha! Thanks!!
28 TVNWZ : Burnsie28 Nice. Very nice.
29 ROSWELL41 : Purdue has (3) corporate aircraft: (2) Beechcraft King Air 200s and (1) Beechcraft Beechjet 400A.
30 Packcheer : NC State Men's basketball charters Pace air 732's for their trips. Football uses delta 752.
31 Boeing4ever : Purdue has one 727 donated from FedEx and one 737-200 donated from United. The FedEx 727 came the fall semester after the original 727 was scrapped.
32 ANCsupercub : So if they charter an aircraft, How do you find out which one it is?
33 Hatbutton : I am trying to find the article. It may have been from 5 or 6 years ago. But I either read in an aviation publication or a sports publication talking
34 Khobar : And it should be hard for them to justify such ridiculous opulence. No wonder tuition is spiraling out of control faster than health care costs.
35 KLASM83 : DC-8 for to win . Thanks for defending our honor, Burnsie . UND IIRC does not own it's own BIG airplane, but charters when it is necessary.
36 Post contains links Simairlinenet : Here we go, Purdue Airlines history: http://www.tech.purdue.edu/AT/aboutus/fthistory.cfm
37 FlybaurLAX : Beat me to the punch! When they scrapped the old 727 at Purdue parts were just lying around everywhere. One of my friends who worked closely with a p
38 LearJet60 : University of Georgia Athletic Association has King Air B200 (N106GB). It typically flies with a flight ID of GGA1 and a call sign of "Jawga"
39 PHL27RPhotog : Penn State has 2 King Airs
40 SW733 : Not quite We do not own an airliner, but as you mention, we have a Citation or two up at LWC. The basketball team usually travels on a chartered 737
41 Post contains links and images Amccann : My university, Iowa State University, has a Beech King Air 200 (N991SU), and a Piper PA28 (Cherokee) (N36603). I'm not exactly sure what the universit
42 Post contains links and images PiedmontINT : Actually, N235KS is not the K-State jet. It's tail number is N881KS View Large View MediumPhoto © Jaysen F. Snow - Midwest Tail Chasers N235KS i
43 Post contains links Lexy : Middle Tennessee State University's Beechcraft 200 Super King Air http://www.flickr.com/photos/perspectivephotography/2906236536/ Inside the King Air:
44 Boeing4ever : Nice. Very nice. I wish I'd known before hand when it was about to be scrapped. I'd have made up some reason to be at ASL at the time and try to go o
45 Post contains links and images AA777223 : I went to Baylor and they used to have (and may still have) a citation for the regents. There are photos here: View Large View MediumPhoto © Davi
46 Flylku : Western Michigan had a 747 for a few years used for static training purposes in their aviation program. In the mid 90's I flew into Winston Salem (INT
47 Post contains links and images N243NW : We used to own a King Air at SLU, but sold it a couple years back when Parks College of Engineering and Aviation came upon financial troubles. View La
48 Adam42185 : It actually arrived over the summer. I cant remember if it was late july or early august but I was outside of Follets Purdue West bookstore when I sa
49 Post contains links Acey559 : Here's my school's ugly "executive" aircraft: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/208978.html
50 DiamondFlyer : Doh! I was copy/pasting a lot, while researching, and must not have grabbed the right one. Sorry about that. I take it you go to K-State. I must say,
51 Post contains links and images UA772IAD : San Jose State has a donated United 727 parked at the southwestern corner of SJC. You can see it while driving along the 880 or even better, along Col
52 R2rho : So... if corporations are being told to get rid of their jets and flight departments and fly mainline or charter.... shouldn't university top brass an
53 JAGflyer : In the US, many schools place very high importance on sports teams, therefore they are procuring aircraft for the transport of the players. IMHO, the
54 Bok269 : I remember reading that Virginia Tech has a couple of planes to fly their big donors in and out. I can't seem to remember what they were, however.
55 Mainliner : Purdue did operate DC-9s back in the 60s as part of the short lived Purdue Airlines. Operations were mostly charters, I believe, and many of those we
56 Mainliner : " target=_blank>http://www.tech.purdue.edu/AT/aboutu...y.cfm Oops, just found your post! Sorry about the repeat.
57 Boeing4ever : I stand corrected. I'm sorry I missed the flyby. Hold on a second. Purdue...get rid of its flight department? You do realize we offer degrees in Avia
58 Bahadir : When I was in there (92-97) they had a King Air 200. My adviser would fly in it to Quantico Marine base to teach there on weekly basis. My flight ins
59 Adam42185 : They most certainly did! There is a picture of flight students posing in front of the empenage of the DC-9 with the white play boy bunny on the tail
60 R2rho : Take it easy. I never mentioned Purdue, but "universities" in general. Obviously, a school with an aviation program like Purdue should have a flight
61 Boeing4ever : Fair enough, sorry to snap at you, but I can just see some A.netter plastering pictures of the now scrapped 727 in Purdue colors and throwing a hissy
62 Lexy : I doubt they could find a price that is cheaper than flying a King Air around the state they are in. FWIW, most universities are funded by the states
63 UA772IAD : Sports teams, particularly football teams generate some of the biggest revenues for a university. Athletes, particularly those on teams that the scho
64 Bahadir : What is this witch hunt for corporate aviation? Do you have any idea how and why those planes are there? There is a reason why these planes exist and
65 FlybaurLAX : Actually they do use the 727 and 737 to taxi around sometimes. They don't fly but I do know that they use them for some classes. My roommate got to t
66 Boeing4ever : Lucky bastard. They barely let the Aeros touch those planes. Guess they're worried we're going to disect them or something. Didn't know they still ta
67 Post contains images Se210 : DC-9 postcard issued by Purdue Airlines
68 Post contains links and images DeltaAVL : University of North Carolina has a fleet, none of which have photos on this site, but the medical department/hospital has a helicopter... View Large V
69 FlybaurLAX : That is beautiful! Thank you! It must be pretty old.
70 Mainliner : I have that poster hanging in my room! While I was there (graduated in May '07), the general rule was that every AvTech student, once completing the
71 Post contains links and images Flypba : and soon their first LogoProp
72 ANCsupercub : I would think that the majority of the basketball games are flown. If you take a look at any given teams schedule they are all over the country. I wo
73 Lexy : Not in the SEC atleast. All teams travel by bus most of the time. I know for fact that Vanderbilt, UK, UT and others are bussed. Alot of towns where
74 ANCsupercub : Yeah i'm guessing it is more of a west coast thing. Especially from the pacific northwest to California. The distances between the schools are much g
75 JayDavis : Years ago, in reading the excellent book, "A Season on the Brink" about Coach Bobby Knight and the Indiana Hoosiers basketball team, there were a cou
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