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MEM The Next IAH?  
User currently offlineCMHARJ From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 127 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

With CO leaving SkyTeam at the end of October, what are the chances that DL/NW will be filling in that void in MEM? Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico connect to CO in IAH. Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?

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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2959 times:



Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter):
Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?

They've already announced LBB and MFE... along with the existing service to IAH, DFW, SAT, and AUS, that's a pretty good start. Amarillo and Midland are about the same size as Lubbock and El Paso is quite a bit larger than all three of those. ELP would arguably be better-served from SLC, but I suppose that we could see MAF or AMA. Would those make or break the network? No, but with LBB already announced, they certainly wouldn't be out of the question.



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User currently offlineJustlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2772 times:
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I don't see MEM becoming the next IAH in regards to connections to Texas and Mexico. First of all, Houston has a substancial advantage over MEM in point-to-point traffic to Mexico. Also, IAH has a much longer history of serving Mexican and Central American destinations.
Another thing to consider is a possible decrease of future traffic to Mexican destinations due to the slumping economy and the violent/unstable crime and political situation facing our southern neighbor.


User currently offlineNW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2621 times:



Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter):
Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico
connect to CO in IAH

A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO. There is still a considerable amount of connections but nothing like this time last year or during the NW/CO alliance peak.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2369 times:



Quoting NW (Reply 3):
A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO.

With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).



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User currently offlineDLCnxGPTJAX From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2334 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).

Not sure what TX routes are flown from MEM, but DL flies

ATL-DFW,SAT,AUS,IAH/HOU,GRK,ELP

That's 6 cities served from ATL. Again, I'm not sure what all MEM has, but I would guess they're at least equal from TX now.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6485 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2334 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).

ATL has either 6 or 7 (depends on whether you separate IAH and HOU as separate destinations).
IAH
HOU
DFW
AUS
SAT
ELP
GRK (Killeen)

As for MEM becoming the next IAH, I seriously doubt it. They might use MEM to fill in a few smaller domestic markets that can't reach ATL profitably, but I wouldn't count on much more.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1664 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Could we see NW/DL adding a MEM-LAW flight since the ATL flight has had such success?


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2277 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 6):
As for MEM becoming the next IAH, I seriously doubt it. They might use MEM to fill in a few smaller domestic markets that can't reach ATL profitably, but I wouldn't count on much more.

 checkmark I agree completely. That said, the practical effect of that statement-- especially if LBB goes well-- is that we might see a few more Texas cities added from MEM, and we might see some existing service (LAW and GRK come to mind) moved from ATL to MEM. Most people in all of these smaller cities are going to places like Boston and Chicago, not places like Albany or Roanoke. For them, MEM is as good (or better) a connecting point than ATL.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Problem I see is folks won't want to double connect. The argument now is that we will see a large draw down in MEM (if that is to happen) you will almost have to double connect from MEM to another hub then to their destination. I don't see it happening.


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User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9082 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2162 times:



Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter):
With CO leaving SkyTeam at the end of October, what are the chances that DL/NW will be filling in that void in MEM? Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico connect to CO in IAH. Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?

Some western citys that are better via MEM than SLC or ATL (or MSP)?sure
Mexico? No way in hell



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2162 times:



Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 6):
GRK (Killeen)



Quoting DLCnxGPTJAX (Reply 5):
GRK,

Just out of curiosity, when did Killeen switch to GRK from ILE?



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1989 times:



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 9):
The argument now is that we will see a large draw down in MEM (if that is to happen) you will almost have to double connect from MEM to another hub then to their destination.

The new Texas flights from MEM are excellent evidence (probably the best evidence, in fact) that we will not see a large drawdown at MEM. Why add flights that will focus on connections just to take the connecting opportunities away?



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User currently offlineJustlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1829 times:
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Quoting NWAESC (Reply 11):
Just out of curiosity, when did Killeen switch to GRK from ILE?

As I recall, Killeen became GRK about 3-4 years ago when the city completed a new terminal at Gray Army Airfield and switched commercial operations from ILE.


User currently offlineNW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1680 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).

I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5066 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1657 times:



Quoting NW (Reply 14):
I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.

I doubt it...MEM just doesn't have the O&D.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1557 times:



Quoting NW (Reply 14):
I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.

Sorry... that wasn't real clear before.

Quoting NW (Reply 3):
Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter):
Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico
connect to CO in IAH

A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO.




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