CMHARJ From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 121 posts, RR: 1 Posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2683 times:
With CO leaving SkyTeam at the end of October, what are the chances that DL/NW will be filling in that void in MEM? Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico connect to CO in IAH. Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2506 times:
Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter): Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?
They've already announced LBB and MFE... along with the existing service to IAH, DFW, SAT, and AUS, that's a pretty good start. Amarillo and Midland are about the same size as Lubbock and El Paso is quite a bit larger than all three of those. ELP would arguably be better-served from SLC, but I suppose that we could see MAF or AMA. Would those make or break the network? No, but with LBB already announced, they certainly wouldn't be out of the question.
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Justlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2319 times:
I don't see MEM becoming the next IAH in regards to connections to Texas and Mexico. First of all, Houston has a substancial advantage over MEM in point-to-point traffic to Mexico. Also, IAH has a much longer history of serving Mexican and Central American destinations.
Another thing to consider is a possible decrease of future traffic to Mexican destinations due to the slumping economy and the violent/unstable crime and political situation facing our southern neighbor.
NW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 142 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2168 times:
Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter): Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico
connect to CO in IAH
A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO. There is still a considerable amount of connections but nothing like this time last year or during the NW/CO alliance peak.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
Quoting NW (Reply 3): A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO.
With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).
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DLCnxGPTJAX From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4): With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).
Not sure what TX routes are flown from MEM, but DL flies
ATL-DFW,SAT,AUS,IAH/HOU,GRK,ELP
That's 6 cities served from ATL. Again, I'm not sure what all MEM has, but I would guess they're at least equal from TX now.
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1881 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4): With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).
ATL has either 6 or 7 (depends on whether you separate IAH and HOU as separate destinations).
IAH
HOU
DFW
AUS
SAT
ELP
GRK (Killeen)
As for MEM becoming the next IAH, I seriously doubt it. They might use MEM to fill in a few smaller domestic markets that can't reach ATL profitably, but I wouldn't count on much more.
Super80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1637 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
Could we see NW/DL adding a MEM-LAW flight since the ATL flight has had such success?
Right now there is an AA MD-80 flying over my house.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1824 times:
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 6): As for MEM becoming the next IAH, I seriously doubt it. They might use MEM to fill in a few smaller domestic markets that can't reach ATL profitably, but I wouldn't count on much more.
I agree completely. That said, the practical effect of that statement-- especially if LBB goes well-- is that we might see a few more Texas cities added from MEM, and we might see some existing service (LAW and GRK come to mind) moved from ATL to MEM. Most people in all of these smaller cities are going to places like Boston and Chicago, not places like Albany or Roanoke. For them, MEM is as good (or better) a connecting point than ATL.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1797 times:
Problem I see is folks won't want to double connect. The argument now is that we will see a large draw down in MEM (if that is to happen) you will almost have to double connect from MEM to another hub then to their destination. I don't see it happening.
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DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8581 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1709 times:
Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter): With CO leaving SkyTeam at the end of October, what are the chances that DL/NW will be filling in that void in MEM? Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico connect to CO in IAH. Will DL/NW start filling in that gap with flights out of MEM?
Some western citys that are better via MEM than SLC or ATL (or MSP)?sure
Mexico? No way in hell
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1536 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 9): The argument now is that we will see a large draw down in MEM (if that is to happen) you will almost have to double connect from MEM to another hub then to their destination.
The new Texas flights from MEM are excellent evidence (probably the best evidence, in fact) that we will not see a large drawdown at MEM. Why add flights that will focus on connections just to take the connecting opportunities away?
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Justlump From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1376 times:
Quoting NWAESC (Reply 11): Just out of curiosity, when did Killeen switch to GRK from ILE?
As I recall, Killeen became GRK about 3-4 years ago when the city completed a new terminal at Gray Army Airfield and switched commercial operations from ILE.
NW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 142 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4): With the recent additions, I believe that DL will serve more Texas destinations from MEM (6) than from ATL (5).
I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.
Drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
Quoting NW (Reply 14): I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21239 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
Quoting NW (Reply 14): I'm referring more to the Mexico and beyond destinations.
Sorry... that wasn't real clear before.
Quoting NW (Reply 3): Quoting CMHARJ (Thread starter):
Most of the SkyTeam traffic that goes to the smaller Texas cities and cities throughout Mexico
connect to CO in IAH
A lot of this traffic is already going through ATL, IAH has seen a huge drop in connecting traffic to/from CO.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
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I agree completely. That said, the practical effect of that statement-- especially if LBB goes well-- is that we might see a few more Texas cities added from MEM, and we might see some existing service (LAW and GRK come to mind) moved from ATL to MEM. Most people in all of these smaller cities are going to places like Boston and Chicago, not places like Albany or Roanoke. For them, MEM is as good (or better) a connecting point than ATL.
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