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OAG: DL/NW Schedule Change; 8 Routes Cut; 1 Add  
User currently offlineEnilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7191 posts, RR: 13
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 13771 times:

DL will end AMS-JFK
NW will end AMS-IAD

GSO-LGA ends in April (DL)
MBS-LGA now only flies for Feb/Mar and then is CXLD (NW)
RIC-LGA ends in April (DL)
PVD-JFK ends in April (DL)
IND-SFO does not operate in Summer as was planned (NW)
IND-SEA does not operate in Summer as was planned (NW)

LGA-IND moves to a mix of DL/NW and is now 6 RTs instead of 4
IND-BOS moves to a mix of DL/NW and is now 5 RTs instead of 3
IND-JFK goes from 1 to 2 RTs
IND-SLC starts in June with DL mainline

These changes should be reflected in GDS by Monday.

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User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13533 times:

Good stuff. I think I found another one.

DCA-IND which is now 3x NW* CRJ will go to 1x DL* CRJ and 4x NW* CRJ


User currently offlineDelta767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13399 times:

Wow, DL has really cut up GSO to bare shreads. Im shocked theyre ceding the NYC market completely there. I would have thought they would have at least brought in JFK service to feed the international network somehow. Get ready for US to raise fares to exorbitant levels now on GSO-LGA, how sad.

User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13089 times:

MSP-JFK also gets a daily A330 service from June 1st. It will act as a crew/aircraft bridge for the new A330 service to ATH and VCE.

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13044 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
PVD-JFK ends in April (DL)

ALB has escaped...for now.

PVD.... I feel your pain



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3751 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13041 times:

Nice to see DL add IND-SLC again... it should compensate for the loss of some of the NW West Coast nonstops, and provide good connecting feed for the mountain states. IND-SLC on the E170 was always full, and with the NW frequent-flyer base, I'm sure they can fill a mainline plane. (What will DL use... MD-90s? 738s?)

And the frequency boosts on IND-LGA/JFK/BOS must mean that rumors of the big pullback of DL/NW at IND are greatly exaggerated.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13029 times:



Quoting Delta767 (Reply 2):
Wow, DL has really cut up GSO to bare shreads. Im shocked theyre ceding the NYC market completely there. I would have thought they would have at least brought in JFK service to feed the international network somehow. Get ready for US to raise fares to exorbitant levels now on GSO-LGA, how sad.

IIRC, DL does fly GSOJFK. GSOLGA is really a US market, it was started by PI and it's one of the few point-to-point routes US still has from them outside the hubs.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12945 times:
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With the merger of NW/DL, does this mean that the partnership between NW and KL will end?

User currently offlineDelta4eva From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12925 times:

Will DL/NW still operate a NW flight JFK-AMS this summer on a 752?


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User currently offlineCompensateMe From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12911 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
With the merger of NW/DL, does this mean that the partnership between NW and KL will end?

DL's aligned with AF. AF owns KL. I imagine we'll see the network more balanced in the future (for example, less seats to AMS and more to CDG from DTW/MEM/MSP).



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12836 times:



Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
DL will end AMS-JFK

Do any other carriers fly JFK-AMS? This could be AA's chance to get into AMS. There's been a lot of talk lately about AA's postential EU expansion. Amsterdam and Milan keep popping up.

AA1818



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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12796 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 10):
There's been a lot of talk lately about AA's postential EU expansion. Amsterdam and Milan keep popping up.

If AA started service to AMS, I would hope they wouldn't start service from DFW because that would compete with our KL nonstop. With ORD and JFK being the big European gateways for AA, I could JFK-AMS with a 75L, and ORD-AMS with a 763, but starting later than the JFK-AMS flight.

So is JFK-AMS getting cut to almost nothing now? Also, the MSP-JFK A330 flight will be cool.



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User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12778 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 10):
Do any other carriers fly JFK-AMS?

KL, DL, NW, and Open Skies currently fly JFK-AMS. SQ used to fly JFK-AMS on the way to SIN, not sure if they still do. There may be some other Middle East or Asian carriers that stop in AMS on their way to their final destination.

Quoting Delta4eva (Reply 8):
Will DL/NW still operate a NW flight JFK-AMS this summer on a 752?

Delta.com currently shows a DL 767 and NW 757 flying the route this summer. I don't recall if DL already announced any changes to these flights which have not yet been loaded.


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1466 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12743 times:

It usually takes a couple of days for it to show in the system. OAG is really good about having those in there a couple of days ahead of schedule.

So if DL operates a 767 and NW operates a 757, this means that there will only be a NW 757 on the route correct?

The DL767 is getting the axe?


User currently offlinePHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12731 times:

MSP-ATL-MSP also gets a daily 333 starting in April to bridge the ATL-FCO and LGW flights. MSP-ATL looks to be around 10-11am and ATL-MSP around 3-4pm.

User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12728 times:



Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 5):
(What will DL use... MD-90s? 738s?)

This one's already loaded. Looks like an M90 that spend the night in IND!
DL1112 SLC 1705 IND 2230 M90
DL1173 IND 0615 SLC 0755 M90

It's interesting that IND-SEA and IND-SFO are gone, but it appears that the second IND-LAX flight will still go for the summer. Has anyone heard otherwise?


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12710 times:



Quoting MCOAviationFan (Reply 12):

KL, DL, NW, and Open Skies currently fly JFK-AMS. SQ used to fly JFK-AMS on the way to SIN, not sure if they still do. There may be some other Middle East or Asian carriers that stop in AMS on their way to their final destination.

My question was with reference to the fact that DL is cutting the route, and I wasn't sure whether that mean't that NW was also dropping their flight since DL now owns NW.

Given the recent toubles at Open Skies- no expansion and some uncertainty in terms of successes so far, perhaps it is a route that if ATI is granted will be handed to AA to operate with a 757L.

AA1818



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User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12673 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 16):
My question was with reference to the fact that DL is cutting the route, and I wasn't sure whether that mean't that NW was also dropping their flight since DL now owns NW.

AFAIK, DL has not announced they are cutting the route. They will be using the 767-300ER to fly from AMS-BOM so the JFK-AMS may be the way to get the 767 to AMS for this route. Some have speculated it may be marketed as a through flight , thereby offering direct service from JFK-BOM. ATL-AMS changes to an A330, so JFK may be the way to rotate the aircraft through AMS. Of course, the PDX-AMS route also goes 767-300ER this summer.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12656 times:



Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 14):

It doesn't look like DL is cutting any of their frequencies either. Friday April 10th shows:
8x M88/M90
2x 738
1x 752
1x 319
1x 333
That is alot of seats on that one route. Has DL just not made the cuts yet, or is there seriously going to be that many seats daily on that route?



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3435 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12639 times:



Quoting MCOAviationFan (Reply 17):

AFAIK, DL has not announced they are cutting the route.

Did you not read the thread starter's post?

Quoting Enilria (Thread starter):
DL will end AMS-JFK

First line from the Thread Starter...

AA1818



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12626 times:



Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 14):
MSP-ATL-MSP also gets a daily 333 starting in April to bridge the ATL-FCO and LGW flights. MSP-ATL looks to be around 10-11am and ATL-MSP around 3-4pm.

Well, I know which MSP-ATL flight I will now be booking in the future.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 6):
IIRC, DL does fly GSOJFK. GSOLGA is really a US market, it was started by PI and it's one of the few point-to-point routes US still has from them outside the hubs.

DL dropped GSO-JFK a while back - early 2006 I want to say. DL will be down to ATL, CVG, DTW, MSP and MEM from GSO - in the past 3 years, they have dropped JFK, BOS, TPA, MCO, FLL and now LGA (not to mention chopping mainline to CVG and the frequency of mainline to ATL).


User currently offlineMCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12616 times:



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 19):
Did you not read the thread starter's post?

Yes, I did. I'm just saying DL has not announced it as of now.


User currently offlineBAKJet From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12569 times:



Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 5):
And the frequency boosts on IND-LGA/JFK/BOS must mean that rumors of the big pullback of DL/NW at IND are greatly exaggerated

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Also, does anyone know if IND-SLC 1x daily or is it more?


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12431 times:



Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 6):
IIRC, DL does fly GSOJFK.

Negative.

Ashame about GSO-LGA, saved my butt non reving once trying to get home to FL.


User currently offlineTimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12285 times:
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Quoting PHXtoDCAtoMSP (Reply 14):
MSP-ATL-MSP also gets a daily 333 starting in April to bridge the ATL-FCO and LGW flights. MSP-ATL looks to be around 10-11am and ATL-MSP around 3-4pm.

I'm not quite sure why they need to bridge an A330 over MSP-ATL. They can already bridge by going DTW-FCO-ATL or Anywhere-AMS-ATL, which seems to be sufficient. This must just be a sign that DL scheduling is taking more control now, since NW never bridged widebodies over domestic routes on a regularly scheduled basis.


25 NWAESC : Not only did they not bridge them, but after the DC10's went away, there was no widebody domestic service except for MSP-HNL...
26 Evan767 : Wow RIC-LGA cut? They've been operating this route for at least a decade. DL must have been feeling the heat from Airtran, although I don't know why b
27 Chase : Is IND-SLC intended to be year-round, or seasonal? If year round, I think the timing of this route is excellent for skiers. Getting into SLC early in
28 Panamair : With this morning's schedule upload DL80/81 JFK-AMS-JFK was removed. JFK-AMS will continue to have the NW 757, in addition to the KL flights (even th
29 FlyPNS1 : I don't know, I think losing nearly half your nonstop destinations is a pretty substantial pullback. IND will have lost DEN, SFO, SEA, BDL, MCO, TPA
30 Super80DFW : No wonder NW didn't put a WorldClub in the new Terminal at IND.
31 ERJ170 : IND still has a LOT of frquencies to ATL, CVG, DTW, MEM, and MSP. Will any of those will be cut? They currently has 8x ATL, 5x CVG, 7x DTW, 3x MEM, a
32 FlyASAGuy2005 : Yes, PVD is only a shell of what it was only 5 years ago. That's pretty heavy hub to hub flying...[Edited 2009-01-31 10:23:42]
33 DeltaL1011man : But BOS,LGA,DCA are all DL FCs. and JFK is a hub.....I am a little shocked they didn't keep atleast TPA,MCO, and FLL........NW must be taking a beati
34 SANFan : SAN's Lindbergh Field will apparently see the return of the summer fatties again this year; 3x 763s to ATL were loaded into the summer schedule yester
35 RL757PVD : Whiting was on the wall for JFK though...looking at the JFK routemap the only cities out fo JFK are: Delta hubs/focus/large cities Jet Blue cities th
36 MSYtristar : Looking at MSY in April, it looks like DL will upgrade the morning LGA nonstop to a daily MD-88 up from a CR9. So MSY-LGA will have 2X M88. Also, LAX
37 DeltaL1011man : mostly 88s or 737s?
38 Azjubilee : The 333 bridge to JFK is essential since there are only two routes from JFK that the 333 will fly and neither of them is connected to any other NWA ci
39 Panam330 : DL cuts SYR-ATL from 4x CR7 1x CRJ to 3x CR7. CVG goes from 3x ERJ to 2x, for a total loss of 170 seats from our current 610 daily, representing a 28%
40 Keesje : I'm sure AF/KL and DL/NW talked JFK-AMS over and willl maintain sufficient capasity / Frequencies on this route. The colours of the tails are tbd and
41 MSYtristar : 88's. No 737's.
42 Knope2001 : AirTran ended RIC-LGA on January 5th after about 5 months. They started the route in August, and through the end of October the average load was 30%
43 Flyinryan99 : Well....TOL finally adds a flight *has heart attack* 4x Saab and 2x CRJ to DTW: 6:40a CRJ 10:19a SF3 11:21a SF3 (new flight) 1:35p CRJ 5:02p SF3 6:45p
44 CMHARJ : Unless I wasn't paying too much attention, I've notice now that DL has meal service on their metal for MSP-ATL flights. When I first noticed, it used
45 Evan767 : I don't think B6 should be a factor since Delta operates RIC-JFK as well. But RIC-LGA is a shocker. That flight goes out packed every Friday and curr
46 PSU.DTW.SCE : Yields on the IND-West Coast routes have taken a huge beating thanks to the WN & F9 dual on connections over DEN. IND has some unbelievable fares to
47 Azjubilee : Again, the problem with JFK-VCE/ATH is that VCE and ATH are not served by the 333 from anywhere else. Should VCE/ATH have 333 service from ATL, there
48 Cubsrule : Whether it's loaded yet or not, based on the 75A schedule they currently have for this summer, there's going to be some domestic 75A flying as well A
49 DeltaL1011man : What 75A routes will they need to add?
50 Sf3sce : Is there any state college, PA service coming like we have two flights a day on NW (9E) to DTW but im wondering if they will bring back ATL or possibl
51 RampGuy : If DL thought the IND-SLC didn't work with an E170, why would they bring it back and upgrade it to mainline?
52 Delta767 : Could the LGA-RIC/GSO pullback have anything to do with the need for DL to reduce their slots at LGA...and they picked these since they were the weake
53 ChrisNH : OK...so DL decides that their European traffic will funnel through JFK instead of Boston. And then DL abandons an important link in that chain by dit
54 MSYtristar : Last day for 767 service on ATL-JAX is March 31st. It makes sense if IND-SFO/SEA isn't coming back. They can easily route those passengers through SLC
55 OOer : It should be fairly easy now for the R.I. residents to take a quick drive to BDL and hop on the BDL-AMS flight and connect in AMS to any other destin
56 Sxf24 : The reasons why are as follows: 1) There is no O&D. If you want to travel between NYC and PVD, you take the train. 2) The route is too short to be op
57 LACA773 : There's been a lot of talk in several different threads about DL enhancing service on their flights where NW has offered more than DL (in most cases
58 DeltaL1011man : I have heard that DL wants back into the LAX-BOS market and I think the 73G or the 319 would be the perfict plane for them. They need to get some typ
59 MAH4546 : I don't think it's of DL's best interest to participate in that blood bath this summer. BOS-LAX yields are already the lowest of the large trans-cons
60 PVD757 : There is when airlines don't charge over 300 dollars one-way for a 160 mile flight. The Acela is also at capacity and cannot be expanded in any way u
61 Enilria : RE JFK The remaining SkyTeam service as of April is shown as KLM 777, KLM 74M (is that a combi?), and NW 757. There is no service on any non-SkyTeam
62 RampGuy : [ [quote=MSYtristar,reply=54]Quoting RampGuy (Reply 51): why would they bring it back and upgrade it to mainline? It makes sense if IND-SFO/SEA isn't
63 MSYtristar : They had their reasons, obviously. Airlines don't just cancel flights on a whim w/o having a reason to do so. Not saying that was the key decision, b
64 RL757PVD : BDL is over 2 hrs from PVD...Id be suprised id more than one person per day uses the flight from PVD's catchment area. US/CO carry the bulk of INTL p
65 Hjulicher : The difference is now JFK and MSP are hubs, and funnelling traffic between hubs is important. Now many midwest locales can effectively travel interna
66 DeltAirlines : Thing is, they could before with NW's MSP-AMS flight. Sure, JFK opens up some more connections, but a lot of it could have been handled on either end
67 MAH4546 : Instead of flying XXX-MSP-AMS-YYY, they could fly XXX-MSP-JFK-YYY or XXX-MSP-JFK-YYY-ZZZ. This does not save Midwestern passengers time (although it
68 RwSEA : True, but adding SLC to the equation doesn't really add anything new. Pax previously could have connected just as easily through MSP/DTW. These fligh
69 Chase : I heard that last time the flight was profitable, they just thought the a/c could make them even more money on a different route. Also, DL has a lot
70 Enilria : I think it is symbolic of the conversion of IND from a focus city to a spoke. DL now has so many hubs and focus cities that just serving most of them
71 CMHARJ : I just checked the schedule and they just dropped the A333 from the MSP-JFK route
72 PSU.DTW.SCE : Its still there, in June.
73 Pgtravel : I think that's it, Chase. Before there was no DL base in IND, but now they have all the NW people there that could fly the route. Also, it's a late f
74 Cubsrule : AFAIK, this is still accurate:
75 Enilria : They could also do maintenance mid-week or simply park it. A lot parking worked its way into the schedule over the last year of high fuel prices.
76 Cubsrule : The 757's versatility has made it somewhat less likely to get parked, though. Also, most of the stations where 75As will be 'marooned' are places wit
77 CALMSP : I dont recall seeing any info regarding NW/DL pulling out of CAN. Is this true? It must be, b/c I do not see it in SHARES after March 1.
78 Enilria : I believe there was a thread about it just after the merger. Even if they can't work on them, there are a lot of planes sitting around on Tuesdays no
79 CompensateMe : It's not. Currently, the 757 is not scheduled to operate Atlantic flights from DTW or IAD. BOS is now scheduled daily and BDL remains daily except Tu
80 Sxf24 : Slot is going to SEA-PEK.
81 RampGuy : What are the plans for the current NW IND-CUN Saturday flight? Will it remain a NW flight, a/c, crew or will it all become DL?
82 Cubsrule : Given that NW holds the route authority, it's unlikely to become DL until most or all integration is complete.
83 Expressjet_erj : Thats wierd, either the crew will be there a full day or a MD90 will be going to ATL or something like that. Also I dont see the 333 ATL-MSP or MSP-J
84 MAH4546 : Not until 2010. For now, the slot will become dormant, with DOT having granted Delta dormancy for a year.
85 CMHARJ : I notice most NW Hub to DL Hub is being flown by DL metal. CVG will only have 1 or 2 NW planes and ATL will have 2 NW metal flights. What will happen
86 NWAESC : Good question. This came up in another thread. Hopefully, they're not facing the prospect of massive furloughs. They should.
87 Jetlanta : They are now Delta employees. They aren't going anywhere.
88 FlyCMH : I'm hopeful that with the return of SLC-IND, we will see other long, thinner routes from SLC re-started as well. It seems as though Delta has had limi
89 B752OS : That would be quite the boon to the BOS-LAX market. While it is a very large market and despite what some say here, the yields are not that bad. They
90 RL757PVD : PVD will be happy to take any fallout, heck they'd probably get a premium at PVD with the yeild bloodbath to LAX. O&D to LA peaked just shy of 500 da
91 FlyPNS1 : The problem is that PVD will end up being a victim as the bloodbath at BOS will just suck more customers away from PVD. And I can't see any of those
92 RL757PVD : That has already happened somewhat, but once someone does offer non-stop people will come back ( assuming its low fare, but not with BOS yeilds) Some
93 B752OS : 2 carriers flying 4 daily BOS-LAX flight did not cause a bloodbath. If BOS-LAX was around 600-700 daily pax, then yes that would have occurred. But B
94 LACA773 : What about LAX-BDL with the 73G or 319?
95 PVD757 : There are many, many PVD passengers that would use a PVD-LAX nonstop, simply to get the nonstop from PVD versus having to connect or use BOS, regardle
96 RL757PVD : and the 250-300 O&D primarily comes from # 1 and partially #2 alone, since WN isnt always the market leader for PVD-LAX alot of the times it is UA (2
97 SANFan : I just discovered another piece of good news for SAN from DL. It appears they are adding a second n/s to JFK starting 6/4/09, with no discontinue date
98 CMHARJ : I know techniqually they are DL employees, but since there hasn't been a union vote yet, those NW employees can't work DL metal yet nor have the abov
99 NWAESC : You're technically correct, but in practice (my term) they're still NW employees, and those flights are going away. We're (NWA) not working DL flight
100 Sdexplorer00 : Starting in April when the DL and NW operations are combined, there are as many as 22 daily flights out of SAN up from 13 - 14 now. Checking May 4th:
101 MAH4546 : Four carriers will cause a problem. BOS-LAX yields don't have much lower to go. They were already pretty weak with only two airlines in the market; t
102 SANFan : (Did you mean "June 4th"? (Which is when the 2nd JFK flt starts.) This is pretty much the same as recent summer (combined) total of flights; in fact
103 Sdexplorer00 : No, I checked the web sites for both carriers on May 4th.
104 RobertS975 : Yup, not too long ago, there were multiple 757s to ATL and CVG, and 2 daily DL Express 737s to MCO. I live in southeastern MA and used the mainline s
105 PSU.DTW.SCE : I believe the NW flights in SLC are already being worked by DL mainline now. They supposedly dropped Worldwide in Jan. Just looking ahead in the sche
106 Timf : I noticed they added the 4th flight when they posted their February timetable. The extra frequency is a late evening arrival into DTW and a morning d
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