SIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 450 posts, RR: 3 Posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7336 times:
According to that new photo http://www.airliners.net/photo/Tupolev-Tu-154M/1470720/L/
It seems the Tu-154 is still in production.
I though the last one was delivered a few years ago.
Could someone confirm the information and tell me for wich airlines this model is?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7277 times:
A complicated story. Around 1997 sales of the Tu-154M started to dry up and they capped producing parts after fuselage #1025. At that time there were about 25 aircraft unfinished and undelivered. Since then, they sometimes finish of and sell a few of these for a low price - as low houred Tu-154Ms are widely available on the 2nd hand market. Still about a dozen unfinished frames loiter around, like #993, 997, 998, 999, 1000, 1002 , 1004 and 1021 to 1025. Probably most of these end up scrapped, but the one on the picture is probably one of these.
So one can say production more or less stopped in 1997 but they continue to turn out the rest of the aircraft, usually one 1 or 2 a year.
The same with Il-76, Il-62 and Yak 42 were there are a few frames almost finished for at least 10 years but not delievered (yet!).
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 1): The same with Il-76, Il-62 and Yak 42 were there are a few frames almost finished for at least 10 years but not delievered (yet!).
One example is the "new" IL 62 of the Government of Sudan, delivered in 2005 and first spotted in 2006.
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1104 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6996 times:
A very similar situation exists with the An-124.
I believe there was a significant gap from RA-82079 being delivered (mid-2000) until RA-82080 and RA-82081 were delivered in mid-2004. I recall reading that these were assembled from parts remaining after the production was originally wound down.
An-124 production may yet re-start.
I think there are also still parts around from an uncompleted second An-225.
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6916 times:
I thought the Il-76 was in full production with the MF and TF stretch availble?
Yes, the Tu-154 is still in fabrication, from the large inventory of parts.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6592 times:
Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 2): So what's the "newest" Tu-154 flying around? Didn't found something to match #1025 -but AFAIK the Russian C/n's are longer.
The 'newest' Tu-154 frame is 01A1020 (the first two digits are the year when it's delivered, the last 3 or 4 the fuselage number), RA-85833 of Air Ural, delivered on 10 october 2001. 1021-1025 will probably never be completed.
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6123 times:
Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now) that reduced the weight of their existing Tu-154s and had some minor tech updates; do the "new" build frames have this as an option from the factory?
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6083 times:
That 2nd An-225 - if they complete it that plane would have taken over 20 years to be built! It was started shortly after the first one was completed (1988) as a carrier for the Buran space orbiter.
Alas that has become the reality of the aviation industry of the CIS, the production lines are very slow indeed.
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6074 times:
Ahhh right, I had forgotten about those. Are they traditional winglets or raked wingtips, I can't seem to find a picture?
Cirrusdriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5632 times:
Great thread! I never knew that another 225 was even partially built.
Iwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3452 times:
I had just started a thread on this topic which was deleted by mods: double thread. I looked, I swear....
Its great to see this is still happening. If only Boeing had not trashed the MD11 tooling, we might see something over here in the US at Long Beach.
Does anyone have any detailed range/payload information for the latest models?
Quoting Afay1 (Reply 9): Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now) that reduced the weight of their existing Tu-154s and had some minor tech updates; do the "new" build frames have this as an option from the factory?
Does anyone know what the weight saving features are?
SeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4277 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
Quoting Afay1 (Reply 9): Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now)
As they're pulling Tu-154s out of service, one assumes they won't be upgrading any more of them.
Quoting Iwok (Reply 15): If only Boeing had not trashed the MD11 tooling, we might see something over here in the US at Long Beach.
At least the CIS aircraft are cheaper to buy than western competition.
As much as the MD-11 may be a sentimental favorite, the 777-200ER completely and totally obsoleted the older plane. It carries more payload and volume farther for less money.
Most gorgeous aircraft: Tu-204-300, 757-200, A330-200, 777-200LR, 787-8
PanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 274 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3282 times:
Does anyone know the economics of a newer build Tu-154M? What are they compared to a 727/757/739?
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