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Tu-154. Still In Production Line?  
User currently offlineSIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 483 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 8506 times:

According to that new photo
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Tupolev-Tu-154M/1470720/L/
It seems the Tu-154 is still in production.
I though the last one was delivered a few years ago.
Could someone confirm the information and tell me for wich airlines this model is?

[Edited 2009-01-31 02:31:58]

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User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4360 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8447 times:

A complicated story. Around 1997 sales of the Tu-154M started to dry up and they capped producing parts after fuselage #1025. At that time there were about 25 aircraft unfinished and undelivered. Since then, they sometimes finish of and sell a few of these for a low price - as low houred Tu-154Ms are widely available on the 2nd hand market. Still about a dozen unfinished frames loiter around, like #993, 997, 998, 999, 1000, 1002 , 1004 and 1021 to 1025. Probably most of these end up scrapped, but the one on the picture is probably one of these.
So one can say production more or less stopped in 1997 but they continue to turn out the rest of the aircraft, usually one 1 or 2 a year.
The same with Il-76, Il-62 and Yak 42 were there are a few frames almost finished for at least 10 years but not delievered (yet!).



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8424 times:

So what's the "newest" Tu-154 flying around? Didn't found something to match #1025 -but AFAIK the Russian C/n's are longer.

georg


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8337 times:



Quoting SIBILLE (Thread starter):
According to that new photo

Interesting photo, thanks for sharing.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 1):
The same with Il-76, Il-62 and Yak 42 were there are a few frames almost finished for at least 10 years but not delievered (yet!).

One example is the "new" IL 62 of the Government of Sudan, delivered in 2005 and first spotted in 2006.

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User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1452 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8166 times:

A very similar situation exists with the An-124.

I believe there was a significant gap from RA-82079 being delivered (mid-2000) until RA-82080 and RA-82081 were delivered in mid-2004. I recall reading that these were assembled from parts remaining after the production was originally wound down.

An-124 production may yet re-start.

I think there are also still parts around from an uncompleted second An-225.



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8087 times:



Quoting GCT64 (Reply 4):
I think there are also still parts around from an uncompleted second An-225.


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There were several threads about the second An 225 being completed but I am not sure if they really started to do it.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8086 times:

I thought the Il-76 was in full production with the MF and TF stretch availble?
Yes, the Tu-154 is still in fabrication, from the large inventory of parts.


User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4360 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7762 times:



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 2):
So what's the "newest" Tu-154 flying around? Didn't found something to match #1025 -but AFAIK the Russian C/n's are longer.

The 'newest' Tu-154 frame is 01A1020 (the first two digits are the year when it's delivered, the last 3 or 4 the fuselage number), RA-85833 of Air Ural, delivered on 10 october 2001. 1021-1025 will probably never be completed.
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Later some 'older' frames have been delivered like 07A1001 RA-85057 of Samara Aviation in decmber 2007.
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Quoting Alessandro (Reply 6):
I thought the Il-76 was in full production with the MF and TF stretch availble?

Only a few frames are built so far (in the last 10 years...) , most are from batches 93-94 which were already partially built by 1997.



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7558 times:



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 7):

Thanks for the info. That's really cool - a 2007 build Tu-154....

georg


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now) that reduced the weight of their existing Tu-154s and had some minor tech updates; do the "new" build frames have this as an option from the factory?

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7279 times:

Afay, there´s also winglets to the Tu-154 so there´s updates surely.

User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3258 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

That 2nd An-225 - if they complete it that plane would have taken over 20 years to be built! It was started shortly after the first one was completed (1988) as a carrier for the Buran space orbiter.

Alas that has become the reality of the aviation industry of the CIS, the production lines are very slow indeed.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7244 times:

Ahhh right, I had forgotten about those. Are they traditional winglets or raked wingtips, I can't seem to find a picture?

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7222 times:

I only seen the winglets in a book by Aerostar called Tu-154.

User currently offlineCirrusdriver From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

Great thread! I never knew that another 225 was even partially built.

User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

I had just started a thread on this topic which was deleted by mods: double thread. I looked, I swear....


Its great to see this is still happening. If only Boeing had not trashed the MD11 tooling, we might see something over here in the US at Long Beach.

Does anyone have any detailed range/payload information for the latest models?

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 9):
Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now) that reduced the weight of their existing Tu-154s and had some minor tech updates; do the "new" build frames have this as an option from the factory?

Does anyone know what the weight saving features are?

-iwok


User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5856 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4609 times:



Quoting Afay1 (Reply 9):
Aeroflot has an upgrade program (maybe completed by now)

As they're pulling Tu-154s out of service, one assumes they won't be upgrading any more of them.

Quoting Iwok (Reply 15):
If only Boeing had not trashed the MD11 tooling, we might see something over here in the US at Long Beach.

At least the CIS aircraft are cheaper to buy than western competition.

As much as the MD-11 may be a sentimental favorite, the 777-200ER completely and totally obsoleted the older plane. It carries more payload and volume farther for less money.


User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

Does anyone know the economics of a newer build Tu-154M? What are they compared to a 727/757/739?

It's so cool that they are still being built!



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