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Can You Visit Airplane Graveyards?  
User currently offlineTFFIP From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 211 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 61655 times:

is it possible to make visit to an airplane graveyard/storage place in the desert?

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User currently offlineEnginebird From United States of America, joined May 2007, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 61650 times:

You can go there, but it is usually not permitted to actually go in, because a) the graveyards have an active runway and b) you could be stealing something. I was in VCV in December and got some good views of parked planes from outside the fence, but could not (and did not try) get in. When I was there the runway was in fairly heavy use, as the MD11 tanker was doing water dumping practice and other aircraft arrived to be repainted (NW to DL) or have their P&W engines removed.

User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 61539 times:

Long long long time ago I went to Mohave, and as I was told, if you pay the airport ops guy, I think the fee was $10, he gave me a tour around the entire holding area in his truck. Remember took like 3 rolls of film and used them all and felt like a 5 year old on Christmas morning running around. Got there late in the day but had enough time to get most of it in.

Don't know about IGM because I always use to fly up there with students and being airside already we would just walk around, not sure what the field looks like now with more a/c there and Its been over 4 years since I flew in there myself.


User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 61503 times:



Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 2):
Long long long time ago I went to Mohave, and as I was told, if you pay the airport ops guy, I think the fee was $10, he gave me a tour around the entire holding area in his truck. Remember took like 3 rolls of film and used them all and felt like a 5 year old on Christmas morning running around. Got there late in the day but had enough time to get most of it in.

Marana is owned by Del Smith, owner of Evergreen.

I did the full VIP tour in 1992 with his then security man "Snooz".

I had a ball of a time when I went there. The days gone by ..........pre 9/11. Pretty much gurantee it will never be the same....



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 61504 times:



Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 3):
Marana is owned by Del Smith, owner of Evergreen.

I did the full VIP tour in 1992 with his then security man "Snooz".

I had a ball of a time when I went there. The days gone by ..........pre 9/11. Pretty much gurantee it will never be the same....

Last time I went to Marana you couldn't get in. On a previous visit I was able to get in but I had to show my Retired USAF member card. I understand that you can't even get in on that now.



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User currently offlineAmbanmba From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 61463 times:

Back in 1996 I was on a business trip to Tucson and drove out to Davis-Monthan AFB. I also visited the Titan Missile Museum.

This was before the era of digital photography so the best tech I had at the time was to digitize some video into still frames which I put here: http://www.ambor.com/world/arizona/arizona.htm
(click there if you enjoy old 1990s-era hand-coded HTML  Smile

If you scroll down to the bottom, you can see how close I got... basically couldn't get past the front gate. I can only imagine that in our post 9/11 world, you aren't likely to get any further.

-ambanmba



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9745 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 61217 times:

Not exactly sure but I drove past that fence at Davis Monthan as well, make a right turn off Kolb Road to Irvington road, that should be it.

I think it was on that trip to AZ that I tried to get into Marana, was refused by an armed guard. I met the cargo sales guys of Evergreen on a trade show in Rockford the year before and did not carry their name cards along unfortunately. Thoise were the years before you could store all outlook contents in your phone....

Whatever the restrictions are these days, Pima Air Musuem is always worth the trip.



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User currently offlineOgre727 From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 61189 times:

I was in Mojave in November. All you have to do is ask in the restaurant of the terminal. They'll guide you to the ops guy who gives tours for USD10. It is quite nice.


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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7542 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 61069 times:

I went to Maxton,NC in 99 or 2000 . Just got lucky,I was taking pics at the fence-line when a guy pulled up and asked if I wanted to come in and take them close up. Told me i could as long as i didn't take anything. I have been back 3x ,but to no avail to get in  Sad


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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 61035 times:

I just recently went to ROW for business and even though I couldn't get "in" there really was no need to as you can get fairly close to the planes as some of them are right up to the fence. The only section that was relatively far was the parking lot for the 727s but nearly everything else, from L-1011s to 743s to AA's A300s to AC's recently stored 762s were close enough that you could get decent pictures from your car.

User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 60983 times:

Oh yes, just returned from Teheran... Nice graveyard; just imagine:


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 60961 times:

The short answer.. in most every case No. The biggest reason is not security, but the fact that these storage facilities have millions and millions of dollars worth of company assets and they don't want people just walking around them. Legal reason for people getting hurt, stealing things, damaging things...but yes, they are most always in controlled areas, so security plays a part.


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9745 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 60690 times:

@ Debonair - do they still have the 727-100s stored at THR? I was inside the very one the Shah piloted to HAM on his visit, believe 1967 that was, when it was parked inside the hangar at the LH Techniks base.


Es saugt und blaest der Heinzelmann wo Mutti sonst nur blasen kann. Frueher war mehr Lametta.
User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 60510 times:

@PanHAM

Yeap, 2 are stored. one EP-PLN belonged to the sister of the Shah and one EP-GDS belonged to the Shah. It is no problem to go on board...  bigthumbsup 

It's fabulous not only to see the a/c's in Teheran, but also to "touch". like the L1011.


User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9745 posts, RR: 31
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 60146 times:

@ Debonair - great, thanks. Must have been EP-GDS I was in. It's one of these memories one never forgets, even after more than 40 years. The resident Iran Air engineer (LH did all the maintenance then) invited us to have a look inside the aircraft. Unthinkable these days that strangers get into an aircraft that is used by a head of state.


Es saugt und blaest der Heinzelmann wo Mutti sonst nur blasen kann. Frueher war mehr Lametta.
User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59895 times:

So Mohave is the only one then? I knew that about Marana and the other that's close to the area, it's because of the military activity or Evergreen or something right? I've heard most days now you can't even drive close to it. Goodyear, on the west side leaving Phoenix, different situation, there are perimeter roads that get within range especially with the right equipment to get decent photos, but have never heard anything further if actual onsite tours are given.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59570 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Whatever the restrictions are these days, Pima Air Musuem is always worth the trip.

They offer 90 minute bus tours of the USAF boneyard.
http://www.pimaair.org/view.php?pg=16

http://www.pimaair.org/images/hires/AMARC%20P1010034.JPG


User currently offlineBristolflyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59533 times:

I tried to get into Marana about a year ago - no chance.

A friend flew in there in his 172 and wasn't allowed out of his plane - allowed to use the runway only.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59443 times:
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Quoting Bristolflyer (Reply 17):
I tried to get into Marana about a year ago - no chance.

A friend flew in there in his 172 and wasn't allowed out of his plane - allowed to use the runway only.

I have also landed a C172 at Marana, rented out of TUS. I did taxi all the way back to the end of the runway rather than a touch and go, did not attempt to park. This was at least 5 or 6 years ago.

Also, the "back end" of Tucson International was usually an interesting place to drive to with a variety of derelict aircraft within easy view of the security fence.


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7542 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59411 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):


Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Whatever the restrictions are these days, Pima Air Musuem is always worth the trip.

They offer 90 minute bus tours of the USAF boneyard.
http://www.pimaair.org/view.php?pg=16

I did that back in '00,well worth it . Worth it to see a PA 707!



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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 59375 times:

You can still do touch and goes at Marana to your heart's content, but you can't get in from the ground.

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 58920 times:



Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 2):
Don't know about IGM because I always use to fly up there with students and being airside already we would just walk around, not sure what the field looks like now with more a/c there and Its been over 4 years since I flew in there myself.

I did that several times. IGM is really active. Every time I go there the resident planes change significantly. Usually you can just walk out there no problem, but I've heard from one or two people that they got yelled at when doing so.

Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 4):
Last time I went to Marana you couldn't get in.

And you probably never will.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 6):
Not exactly sure but I drove past that fence at Davis Monthan as well, make a right turn off Kolb Road to Irvington road, that should be it.

 checkmark  You can get a pretty good view from the fence on the northeast corner.


User currently offlinePH-TVH From Netherlands, joined May 2001, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 57871 times:

Haha, I remember an incident where a classmate of mine took the "scenic" route along the north part of Marana airport for his full-stop-taxi-back. Wasnt realy appreciated by the local authorities, but makes a nice story though  Smile

Went there myself a couple of weeks later, but decided to take the normal route for the full-stop-taxi-back....


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 57249 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):

Does anyone know what airline the 707? belonged to?



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User currently offlineTAN FLYR From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1920 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 56899 times:



Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 18):
Also, the "back end" of Tucson International was usually an interesting place to drive to with a variety of derelict aircraft within easy view of the security fence.

Still.is..at least the last ime I was thru there last Autumn..a number of 737's and 727's..as it was late, I thought I saw a caravelle off tucked away. Maybe someone in TUS can confirm.


25 Tristarcrazy : Much agreed. I went to Pima about three weeks ago. Was fandamntastic. Had a few commercial jets. Check their website for the aircraft they have on di
26 FX1816 : Yes VCV does offer pretty good views from the perimeter fence but that's about it. Every so often I go in to see if some one new might be able to give
27 Enginebird : Sorry, you are right, of course. I probably mixed up 10 and 11 because of the "911" on the tail of the one I saw there.
28 Cactus742 : I got into Marana in September on a VIP tour through a friend, who works for a Member of Congress. It was pretty sweet... the President of the facilit
29 PipoA380 : Is Mohave accessible? I'll be there this summer and I'd like to get in, would be nice! Thanks Philippe
30 PanHAM : yes, I know, I only didn't have the time on my last visit there. There is much to see at TUS asa well and other airports in the PHX/TUS area, difficu
31 Post contains links Enginebird : Most of the time, yes! 5 bucks a piece for a 30 minute tour. Check this out: link
32 Panova98 : Remember, you can't just walk into an auto junkyard! And, I'm not too sure any of these places are giving tours. Probably a number of you do remember
33 4holer : So did I, as part of the "Airliners International" meet in Scottsdale. Amazing! I think many, if not all, of the old 707s I enjoyed at DM on that tou
34 757GB : Thanks for the pictures! I lived close to Irvington & Kolb for a while, and really enjoyed walking or jogging by the graveyard. It sure brings a lot o
35 Post contains links Bennett123 : 4holer http://wikimapia.org/#lat=32.153897&lon=-110.8134806&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2 It seems that there are/were recently about 23 B707 at DMA.
36 DRAIGONAIR : Ive done a couple of touch and goes there as well (Pinal Marana).. Also did one full stop taxi back. Really shame i didnt bring my camera with me! Cla
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