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'Drunk' Captain Sparks Aeroflot Passenger Revolt  
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15115 times:
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5651516.ece

Just read this. Passengers on an SU 767 due to fly from Moscow to New York apparently formed the impression the commander of the aircraft was drunk as he was slurring so badly in the his anouncements.

After a mass revolt, the crew was eventually replaced before the aircraft departed a few hours late. Blood tests apparently showed no trace of alcohol. Hmmm.

There are several excellent quotes from the article, including:

"I don't think there's anyone in Russia who doesn't know what a drunk person looks like"

and:

"An Aeroflot spokeswoman said that tests had revealed no trace of alcohol in the pilot's blood. She blamed "mass psychosis" among passengers for the decision to replace the crew, although the company later issued a statement saying that Mr Cheplevsky could have suffered a stroke just before the flight."

Hmmm.

Oh, and BTW - nice picture of the IL-96 at the top of the article.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15075 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
"An Aeroflot spokeswoman said that tests had revealed no trace of alcohol in the pilot's blood. She blamed "mass psychosis" among passengers for the decision to replace the crew,

..OK, but...

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
although the company later issued a statement saying that Mr Cheplevsky could have suffered a stroke just before the flight."

...Looks like someone else at Aeroflot might just have one of their own. Talking about throwing the guy under the (Air)bus....  Yeah sure


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14908 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):

Just read this. Passengers on an SU 767 due to fly from Moscow to New York apparently formed the impression the commander of the aircraft was drunk as he was slurring so badly in the his anouncements.

Just a Russian captain trying to speak english. Nothing special here  Wink

FB.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14848 times:
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Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 2):
Just a Russian captain trying to speak english. Nothing special here Wink

I don't think it was just the English that was the problem! And it certainly seems like the Russian passengers on board (including the loathsome Ksenia Sobchak) took a dim view of things.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14822 times:
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Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):
the loathsome Ksenia Sobchak

"socialite and television host"

usually that = pretentious opinionated pain in the ass.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14799 times:
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Quoting Andz (Reply 4):

"socialite and television host"

usually that = pretentious opinionated pain in the ass.

Yes, read 'talantless, vacuous girl from rich family'.



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14554 times:

Who everyone is very, very tired of hearing about.. Well-said RussianJet.
I wonder if this guy really had a stroke.. Sounds like a pretty strange situation, every time I've flown Aeroflot their pilots' English has been at least intelligible, most of the times actually pretty good.

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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14395 times:
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Erm, I think I would have run for the exit when I heard the announcement quoted in the article

Quote:
One (air hostess) sought to reassure them by announcing that it was "not such a big deal" if the pilot was drunk because the aircraft practically flew itself.

WTF?

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 14238 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Oh, and BTW - nice picture of the IL-96 at the top of the article.

Could have been worse, saw a Danish article on the same subject and they were using an Il-76 Big grin


User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14051 times:



Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 2):
Just a Russian captain trying to speak english. Nothing special here

Haha, exactly what I was thinking!

Quote:
One sought to reassure them by announcing that it was "not such a big deal" if the pilot was drunk because the aircraft practically flew itself.

Sounds like a load of BS coming from a broken telephone. I think that comment in itself would have sparked a lot more controversy if indeed true!


User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 875 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13964 times:

I don't really know what to think. Most times when I fly Aeroflot the captain is welcoming you on board but when he speaks over the intercom, his English is usually slurred and very fast spoken. Even as a native English and Russian speaker, it's hard to understand the English.

This is an interesting turn of events, however. Passengers were able to take control of the situation and perhaps reassure themselves that they were making sure they had a sober and fir pilot for the 10hour flight.

Also, it seems like Aeroflot was able to fairly quickly find replacements for the 4 pilots. Kudos to them. Although this is bad PR for the airline, they eventually handled the situation correctly and were able to assuage the passengers.

Although the government has been stifling freedom of expression and speech lately, Russians seems no less likely to speak their minds when it comes to issues like this.

I hope this event doesn't escalate and tarnish the improved image Aeroflot has created itself.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13953 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 4):
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):
the loathsome Ksenia Sobchak

"socialite and television host"

usually that = pretentious opinionated pain in the ass.

Welcome to the west...here's your very own Paris Hilton....Enjoy.



What the...?
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13897 times:
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Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 11):
Welcome to the west...here's your very own Paris Hilton....Enjoy.

That's more than a little patronising - people like Sobchak are hardly a new phenomenon in Russia. The Union didn't crumble last week......



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13883 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 12):

Come one...have a laugh, eh...?



What the...?
User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13782 times:
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Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 13):
Come one...have a laugh, eh...?

If you want a laugh check her out - she's far more annoying even than Paris Hilton!  wink 

http://www.peoples-history.com/tv/ksenia_sobchak/



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13750 times:

I did already...and it's too close to chose a winner but I know that we are all the losers that we have to hear about them. The world can truly be united by the universal hatred of spoiled skanks. I feel your pain.


What the...?
User currently offlineDallasnewark From Estonia, joined Nov 2005, 495 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13682 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 12):
That's more than a little patronising - people like Sobchak are hardly a new phenomenon in Russia. The Union didn't crumble last week......

But isn't she a God-daughter of the emperor himself?
That alone counts for a lot!



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13645 times:
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Quoting Dallasnewark (Reply 16):
But isn't she a God-daughter of the emperor himself?

Emperor? Of Japan?
Anyway, back to the fact that she was on this plane - it's probably half the reason this has been reported widely enough to have made it to the western press.



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User currently offlineDallasnewark From Estonia, joined Nov 2005, 495 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13479 times:



Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17):
Emperor? Of Japan?

The current Russian Emperor, you probably know who that is.

Anyway back to topic, there are worse things that can happen on Aeroflot, depending who the guest of honor is for that day.

I'm surpised that Aeroflot responded to these allegations, that based on the speech over the intercom someone was deemed drunk by the passengers.



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User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13417 times:
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Quoting Dallasnewark (Reply 18):
The current Russian Emperor, you probably know who that is.

Roman Abramovich? George Bush? Bugs Bunny?

Quoting Dallasnewark (Reply 18):
I'm surpised that Aeroflot responded to these allegations, that based on the speech over the intercom someone was deemed drunk by the passengers.

Well, it's not normal for passengers to get to restless that the entire crew ends up being replaced. It is newsworthy.



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13314 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 4):
usually that = pretentious opinionated pain in the ass.

Yeah, pretty much thats what I thought, but after googled her and saw what she looks like:

http://maxbox.ru/wallpapers/img.php?img=2213551780911309985291.jpg

I guess she can be excused  drool 


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7702 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13258 times:
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Quoting CPH-R (Reply 8):

Quoting RussianJet (Thread starter):
Oh, and BTW - nice picture of the IL-96 at the top of the article.

Could have been worse, saw a Danish article on the same subject and they were using an Il-76 Big grin

An IL-76?! That's classic!  smile 



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User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11786 times:

"One [hostess] sought to reassure them by announcing that it was "not such a big deal" if the pilot was drunk because the aircraft practically flew itself."



At this stage, I would have walked out of the plane...



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User currently offlineUpcfordcruiser From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 11154 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 11):
Quoting Andz (Reply 4):
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 3):
the loathsome Ksenia Sobchak

"socialite and television host"

usually that = pretentious opinionated pain in the ass.

Welcome to the west...here's your very own Paris Hilton....Enjoy.


I can only imagine her words used to stir up the other passengers... "Listen! He's soooo drunk, like that American pilot that landed his plane in that river last week..."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-passenger-rebellion-1544993.html

Mr Cheplevsky refused to leave the cockpit to reassure the passengers, who were told by the crew they should either stop complaining or get off the plane. The Moscow Times, which had a reporter on board the plane, claimed that an Aeroflot representative boarded the aircraft and told the passengers it wasn't a big deal if the pilot was drunk.

"Really, all he has to do is press a button and the plane flies itself," the representative allegedly said. "The worst that could happen is he'll trip over something in the cockpit."

Unsurprisingly, this did not reassure the passengers, but the crew simply told them to "stop making trouble". The incident, on 28 December, was only resolved with the help of Ksenia Sobchak, a television presenter, who happened to be on the plane. She made a few phone calls and after a delay of several hours, the pilots were replaced and flight 315 took off.

[Edited 2009-02-03 19:46:44]

User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10896 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 20):
Yeah, pretty much thats what I thought, but after googled her and saw what she looks like:

- How is she? She looks pretty cute to me?



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25 MedAv : Not that I know the real story behind this story, but transient ischemic attacks (TIA) or "mini-strokes" can indeed present with isolated symptoms suc
26 IAirAllie : There's no accounting for taste. Body of a 10 year old boy and a ...
27 JoeCanuck : Now hold on...there's no need to insult horses...
28 Dallasnewark : There's only one emperor in Russia right now, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. I thought you spoke the language and was on top of the country's affairs.
29 ZKEOJ : errr, and that makes it any better? If he indeed had a stroke he was not in a condition to fly either! Cheers micha
30 RussianJet : Indeed, which is why I take into account the propoganda from all sides rather than just one. Indeed, but hey, the plane "practically flies itself" so
31 L410Turbolet : Classic example that even the best intentions sometimes lead to hell. And the statement released later on that the pilot wasn't drunk but he might ha
32 RussianJet : That is certainly a fair conclusion. Alcohol-related incidents have happened with even some of the most reputable airlines in the world, but they are
33 Post contains images Max777geek : Well, there is something that makes me think the company can be true in statements about the strokes (about the plane Ill pass over, can't pay an atto
34 RussianJet : And what makes you think anyone would have said anything even if they had been aware that their colleague was drunk? I'm more inclined to believe tha
35 Max777geek : Nothing, but the from the news I get some of the people onboard did talk him, not only crews. If he was smelling alchool, I think they would have not
36 RussianJet : Yes, the same passengers who then went on record stating that he clearly seemed drunk? Perhaps, but something clearly doesn't add up here.
37 YYZatcboy : Slurring Speach is a common sign of an oncoming Stroke, so there might be some merit to that story.
38 RussianJet : Again, if that were the case in this instance would the rest of the crew tried so hard to shut everyone up and act as though all was fine?
39 UN_B732 : Maybe the crew just wanted to get it over with and get the aircraft to New York; regardless of what happened?
40 Post contains links RedChili : Moscow Times had a reporter on the airplane. Here's two articles with their version of the story (the articles are similar, but not identical): http:/
41 Braybuddy : Ah good old Aeroflot! Last time I flew with them was a long time ago, in 1991. It was an Il-86 out of Shannon, and after a very brief safety demo the
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