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NK Axing CAE  
User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...s/2009-02-03-spirit-columbia_N.htm

Last flight is March 6th. The airport director says that loads were about 65%.

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User currently offlineKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

This is no big surprise. The only surprise was why CAE to begin with?

User currently offlinePitintl From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1813 times:



Quoting King (Reply 1):
The only surprise was why CAE to begin with?

I was wondering the same thing. Seems like an odd choice for a carrier that has traditionally stayed to Metro markets and larger sized cities of the Northeast US. Columbia, SC never really seemed to fit their model in the first place. Allegiant is definitely a right type of carrier for a city like CAE and should do just fine with their Sanford flights to support the Florida market.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3414 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

NK came and went at PVD too. PVD-RSW is still unserved since they left...

User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

I was surprised though with the mention that they actually did fill 65% of their seats on the route, shows some sort of market and that's without route maturity I think. Within first year that's a pretty good number and surprised it was over half, wondering what other play might come in with a/c if other routes simply needed the utilization.

Do they still have their last one or two A321 a/c? Those are on the way out also aren't they?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
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NK will also discontinue its twice weekly service between Ft. Lauderdale and Port-of-Spain at the end of this month.

User currently offlineShadez From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

FLL-GCM will also not return. It was a seasonal cut, but GCM has disappeared from NK's site, and thus will not be returning. With POS and CAE, that's three cuts. STI is announced with Armenia coming soon.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32899 posts, RR: 71
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1529 times:



Quoting Shadez (Reply 8):
FLL-GCM will also not return. It was a seasonal cut, but GCM has disappeared from NK's site, and thus will not be returning. With POS and CAE, that's three cuts. STI is announced with Armenia coming soon.

POS is a suspension; NK plans to return from what I hear.

Also, San Andres Island in Colombia is looking likely for the fall.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1507 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
POS is a suspension; NK plans to return from what I hear.

Yep, I figured that NK would come back since they recently renewed their exemption. If they return in the future, NK will most likely operate the flight during the day, similar to AA's 763 turn from MIA.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17550 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1459 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Also, San Andres Island in Colombia is looking likely for the fall.

Yeesh...that's a low end market for Colombians, never mind Americans who've never heard of it for the most part.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32899 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1434 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):


Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 9):
Also, San Andres Island in Colombia is looking likely for the fall.

Yeesh...that's a low end market for Colombians, never mind Americans who've never heard of it for the most part.

Yes, true, but South Florida's 300,000+ Colombians are familiar enough with it.

And low-end? Well, this is Spirit we are talking about. IMO, that's probably why they have struggled at SXM. Not enough low-end traffic there.



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User currently offlineKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1391 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
because thats where the velcro ball landed on the giant felt map....

Maybe NK thought it was the country Columbia and not Columbia, SC? The only reason I said why CAE is because I was working in DFW at the time NK tried that maket, and if they couldn't find enough people out of the 4 + million people in the DFW metroplex then CAE never made sense.


User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2668 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

I'm guessing any incentives at CAE have run their course, hence why NK is leaving.. isn't tha what happened in ISP ??


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32899 posts, RR: 71
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1353 times:



Quoting King (Reply 13):

Maybe NK thought it was the country Columbia and not Columbia, SC? The only reason I said why CAE is because I was working in DFW at the time NK tried that maket, and if they couldn't find enough people out of the 4 + million people in the DFW metroplex then CAE never made sense.

CAE serves the largest South Carolina market which had absolutely no service to Florida, so it was worth the effort.

There is no "size scale" to use. Just because DFW didn't work, doesn't mean CAE wouldn't. Spirit is doing fine at San Antonio despite the Dallas flop.

Quoting Nkops (Reply 14):
I'm guessing any incentives at CAE have run their course, hence why NK is leaving.. isn't tha what happened in ISP ??

ISP ended due to fuel costs.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17550 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1351 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
IMO, that's probably why they have struggled at SXM. Not enough low-end traffic there.

I was thinking the same thing about GCM and even PUJ, but US <> ADZ is a very thin market with low fares. Then again that didn't stop CAEFLL.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32899 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1342 times:



Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 16):

I was thinking the same thing about GCM and even PUJ

It was definitley the case with GCM, IMO, as well as PLS/GDT.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 16):
ADZ is a very thin market with low fares. Then again that didn't stop CAEFLL.

It is a thin market, but it can be a pain to get to. Having non-stop service can do a great job of stimulating demand in Caribbean markets, so local market size, IMO, while still important, is less relevant in U.S.-Caribbean then it can be at other markets. Just look at what AA did with Miami-Bermuda.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23086 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (5 years 8 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1218 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 13):
CAE serves the largest South Carolina market which had absolutely no service to Florida, so it was worth the effort.

 checkmark They were likely also hoping for some bleed from the upstate (GSP), Charlotte, and Charleston (which also lacks service to Florida). It wasn't a bad idea-- it just didn't work out. The problem with these smaller markets is that G4 beat them to the punch in many of them, and B6 and WN have many of the larger ones covered.



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