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ANA 747 W/o At BKK Hangar?  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12480 posts, RR: 34
Posted (5 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

According to a thread on PPRUNE, an ANA 747 has been declared an insurance write off after an accident at a hangar at BKK. Apparently, a fire started in the fwd hold while cleaning solvents were being used and a certain type of retardant was used, which spread throughout the aircraft - cockpit and all - and is apparently impossible to remove completely.

Not sure what aircraft it is (anyone heard anything more), but I can see ANA being pretty cheesed off about this.

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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31056 posts, RR: 87
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 5 hours ago) and read 6072 times:
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Actually, they might very well be happy to take the insurance check.  Wink

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12480 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Reported to be JA8955, a -400D.


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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10747 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months ago) and read 5515 times:

Sad if true. Though it doesnt tarnish the 744s great safety record, which is second only to the 777, and well, the A380 of cause.

Strange that it didnt make more news. We are talking about a mighty 744 here, not just of one of the thousands and thousands of bread-and-butter 737s or A320s.

It could indeed be JA8955. There are no photos of that bird since last summer. Airfleets has it as "stored since 11.2008", unusual for a 744D, as all others are active and so far only the standard 744s are being sold.

There are unusually many Japanese sites featuring JA8955, I cant read them, but maybe that has to do with this incident?


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

Well, that explains it.
JA8955 is no longer on the Japanese registry.
I always thought this bird was going to be converted to cargo.


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5369 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Thread starter):
insurance write off after an accident at a hangar at BKK

Wow, as many state, this should have got more attention. So when exactly did this happen?



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8572 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5305 times:
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Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 5):
Wow, as many state, this should have got more attention. So when exactly did this happen?

according to pprune early Aug last year ... anyone have independent verification ?



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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5043 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 6):
according to pprune early Aug last year

At the moment though, the B744D are suffering from severe over capacity. JL has stated that they want to close off the 2nd deck of their B744 fleet.

Furthermore, looking at the recent published timetable of the B744D for ANA/JAL, they don't seem to be utilized so much at all. So I guess this didn't occur at the worst time.



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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10747 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4945 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 7):
At the moment though, the B744D are suffering from severe over capacity.

Well, then surely the domestic 773s must have the same problems.


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4270 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4879 times:



Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 7):
JL has stated that they want to close off the 2nd deck of their B744 fleet.

Nothing special. On any flight (and not just in this period) when passenger demand is less, you can decide to close off the maindeck, safe on 2 or 3 cabin crew and still you're able to provide your passengers with the same service level. It's just a good way of handle situations.
This is something of all times, and nothing special at all, also not for JAL. They just pointed it out once again.



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User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4547 times:



Quoting Na (Reply 3):
the 744s great safety record, which is second only to the 777, and well, the A380 of cause.

Not quite true, no? There was a 744 loss with casualties (Taipei) whereas there has been no loss of a 330 or a 340 with loss of life in service.

So, the 744 - albeit admirable in all respects - is fourth for safety after the 330, 340, 380 and 777.

Nitpicking, of course. The 744 is still the Queen of the Skies!



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User currently offlineCOrocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4411 times:



Quoting OB1783P (Reply 10):
Not quite true, no? There was a 744 loss with casualties (Taipei) whereas there has been no loss of a 330 or a 340 with loss of life in service.

Although that crash had nothing to do with the plane itself. But statistics are statistics.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4401 times:

Perhaps it´s worth more in parts, saw an add for Thai Orient where they part out 5 B747s, mainly older ones?

User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4358 times:



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 12):
Thai Orient where they part out 5 B747s, mainly older ones?

Mainly older ones? As if they had newer ones to part out.......  Wink



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7633 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4231 times:

Alessandro

Did they provide any details?


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