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CSA Czech Flights To MIA Start 25APR09  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

Just heard from a friend at MIA today confirming that CSA Czech will launch non-stop flights between Miami and Prague beginning 25APR09. Flights will operate on Saturdays with an A310.

While the flight is aimed largely at tour groups, CSA had originally planned to sell seats to the public as well.

For now, however, seats must be booked via tour companies. Depending on how the flight does, the flight will be publicly bookable with the winter 2009/10 timetable.

This is in addition to Travel Service, which is planning on starting a weekly 763 service between Miami and Prague in early spring.

[Edited 2009-02-03 13:40:17]


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User currently offlineTommyBP251b From Germany, joined Apr 2006, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

Hi Guys!

I don't think this flight will be non-stop. I don't think the A310 is able to do such a leg.

Regards

Tom



Tom from Cologne
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5301 times:



Quoting TommyBP251b (Reply 1):
I don't think this flight will be non-stop. I don't think the A310 is able to do such a leg.

Yes, an A310 can do this long a leg. It won't even be MIA's longest ever A310 route. In the late 1980s, Royal Jordanian flew MIA-VIE with an A310.



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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5098 times:
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A bit off the topic, perhaps, but does anyone else feel that OK's A310s are a bit out of date for trans-Atlantic travel? Full disclosure... I have never flown on them, but that is the impression I get from various sources, including their website and FlyerTalk posts.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5079 times:



Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 3):
A bit off the topic, perhaps, but does anyone else feel that OK's A310s are a bit out of date for trans-Atlantic travel? Full disclosure... I have never flown on them, but that is the impression I get from various sources, including their website and FlyerTalk posts.

For the price-sensitive leisure market likely to make up the vast majority of passengers on these flights, mostly sold as part of tour packages, the aircraft type is probably a non-issue.


User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

I wonder if they will use the new J concourse or the ancient E concourse...lol.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4891 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 5):
I wonder if they will use the new J concourse or the ancient E concourse...lol.

E is AA.

They will likely use H/J with the rest of SkyTeam.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4889 times:
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I had been under the impression that OK was going to give up long haul ops ? ( no , I am sure I am not thinking of MA who have already given up longhaul )


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

MA and LOT are/have given up on the whole long haul idea


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25117 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4868 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
I had been under the impression that OK was going to give up long haul ops ? ( no , I am sure I am not thinking of MA who have already given up longhaul )

OK's only remaining year-round longhaul route is PRG-JFK. They dropped YUL and converted YYZ to a seasonal operation (June-October, 3 days a week) a year or two ago.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4860 times:
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Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
MA and LOT are/have given up on the whole long haul idea

I thought that OT Polish Airlines">LO still had services to YYZ ORD EWR and JFK ?.... ooops , sorry for OT post



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4792 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
MA and LOT are/have given up on the whole long haul idea

LOT continues to offer long-haul service, and will continue to.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3327 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

When will Travel Service start flying to MIA? I'm assuming they'll be in Concourse F.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

Sure wish OK would fly to a Skyteam hub like, oh just picking one out of a hat - ATL. I know DL already has ATL-PRG, but would SO much rather fly on OK than DL transatlantic!


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User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4529 times:



Quoting TommyBP251b (Reply 1):
I don't think this flight will be non-stop. I don't think the A310 is able to do such a leg.

In Dublin during the Summer months, we regularly see CSA A310s on these charters making fuel stops to and from the Carribean so I agree with you.

DaveC



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User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4391 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 6):
E is AA.

They will likely use H/J with the rest of SkyTeam.

Hope they pick a reasonable time to land which won't add to the congestion of J during certain hours. Between 2pm-4pm that INS arrivals hall at J gets slammed with LH, AF, AZ, 1-2 LAN flights and about 2 AV flights all coming in at once...lol. Oh and Aerogal now arrives around that time too...lol.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3327 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4166 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 15):
Hope they pick a reasonable time to land which won't add to the congestion of J during certain hours. Between 2pm-4pm that INS arrivals hall at J gets slammed with LH, AF, AZ, 1-2 LAN flights and about 2 AV flights all coming in at once...lol. Oh and Aerogal now arrives around that time too...lol.

Since it's a European flight, I'm guessing it'll come in around that timeframe. Maybe a little later because of the added distance from PRG. I think OK will probably be using Concourse H with the rest of their SkyTeam partners.

Speaking of which, when, if ever, will AM and NW move to H?


User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4113 times:



Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 13):
Sure wish OK would fly to a Skyteam hub like, oh just picking one out of a hat - ATL. I know DL already has ATL-PRG, but would SO much rather fly on OK than DL transatlantic!

They had flown to a Skyteam hub for quite a while at JFK. Be careful what you wish for though..I flew to PRG RT on CSA and have never been so uncomfortable in an international coach seat in my life, and I travel in coach internationally alot. They have a better intra-EU product though and offer excellent meals on these flights. Delta is waay better internationally though.


User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3014 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4089 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 17):
They had flown to a Skyteam hub for quite a while at JFK. Be careful what you wish for though..I flew to PRG RT on CSA and have never been so uncomfortable in an international coach seat in my life, and I travel in coach internationally alot. They have a better intra-EU product though and offer excellent meals on these flights. Delta is waay better internationally though.

I've flown them 1.5 times in coach (2000 and 2002), and .5 times in Business (2002-long story). In coach, I was perfectly comfortable (as comfortable as one can get in Coach), and thought the food/beverage offerings were fine. On our 2nd roundtrip to PRG, we upgraded to Business on the return. No lie-flat seats, no AVOD or even in-seat entertainment. BUT.... Their level of personal service and the quality of the food/beverage offerings was so far beyond any U.S. carrier, I've been trying to find a way to fly OK in Business again for 7 years!



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User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3987 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 16):
Speaking of which, when, if ever, will AM and NW move to H?

Yeah I'm surprised AM isn't operating out of J yet. Not to mention they are Skyteam as well. AA could sure use the less added congestion at INS E that AM brings about...lol. Atleast 4-5 flights a day.

I can't speak for NWA but you know something...I think they are comfortable at G. The curb side drop off area where NWA is located never gets congested since that area is pretty much just NWA territory for their 3 or so daily flights. Not to mention TSA is like adjacent to their counter and hardly any volume of pax going thru that check point unlike D/E or J. Just mostly NWA, CO, FL and AS's am SEA flight use G. I'd stay where they are at. If they go to J, I think they might have to pay the county more $$$ to use the new facilities.

Regarding CSA's flight, I wish the best of luck on their service and thank them for their business to S. Fla.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 19):
The curb side drop off area where NWA is located never gets congested since that area is pretty much just NWA territory for their 3 or so daily flights.

Eight flights a day, at least as of 15FEB09.

NW will be moving to H very soon, I think the date was April.

There will be a lot of shuffling when Concourse A re-opens that will most likely end up grouping Star and Sky in H-J (along with Avianca and Aero Galapagos), OneWorld in D (along with Alaska) and everybody else in the middle concourses.

MIA does not discriminate in gate pricing. It does not matter if you use a gate in G or H or D, it costs the same. American Airlines gets priority choice over all airlines, followed by international carriers and then domestic carriers.

The whole reason that Concourse J was built was basically a settlement between MIA/AA and all the other airlines at MIA. The other airlines complained because AA would be getting a pretty new terminal and they wouldn't, yet they would still be paying the increased fees. So MIA compromised and built Concourse J.

Of course, while there is no difference in gate charges, it can cost airlines in the thousands of dollars to move their operations from one area of the airport to another.

[Edited 2009-02-04 20:41:44]


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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3327 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3890 times:



Quoting Anetter123 (Reply 19):
I can't speak for NWA but you know something...I think they are comfortable at G. The curb side drop off area where NWA is located never gets congested since that area is pretty much just NWA territory for their 3 or so daily flights. Not to mention TSA is like adjacent to their counter and hardly any volume of pax going thru that check point unlike D/E or J. Just mostly NWA, CO, FL and AS's am SEA flight use G. I'd stay where they are at. If they go to J, I think they might have to pay the county more $$$ to use the new facilities.

Northwest is merging with Delta, which uses facilities at Concourse H. It's only a matter of time before they make the change.

Continental is already at H; Alaska and Sun Country are the only domestic carriers to use F. Once all is said and done, it looks like it'll just be AirTran, Gulfstream, and the occasional Sky King flight at G.


User currently offlineAnetter123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3692 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
The whole reason that Concourse J was built was basically a settlement between MIA/AA and all the other airlines at MIA. The other airlines complained because AA would be getting a pretty new terminal and they wouldn't, yet they would still be paying the increased fees. So MIA compromised and built Concourse J.

I was under the impression that the whole reason Concourse J was built was to house (back then) UA's international flights and its star alliance members. Atleast, this was mentioned to us when I worked for UA back in 98. It was mentioned to us that other airlines would certainly occupy the terminal, but UA would be the primary one. A transfers section was even built - which sits collecting dust there today...lol. Of course that never went according to plan and since construction has started (and was very much needed) it continued and got realigned to what it is today.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3605 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
CSA Czech Flights To MIA Start 25APR09 

Subject already discussed here :

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/4181141


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3557 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 23):

Subject already discussed here :

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...81141

Reread the threads, the first thread by MAH4546 deals with a report of the possibility of the route at some period in the future, this thread is about unofficial confirmation of the flight really happening also by MAH546. Different topic.


25 FlySSC : Initial thread, Oct.17th 2008 : CSA To Start PRG-MIA In March '09 This thread, Feb 3rd 2009 : CSA Czech Flights To MIA Start 25APR09 Lots of differen
26 Sflaflight : Uh, that's what I said - it should be a new thread. It is supposedly confirmation. It's dfferent! Are you making playing with my mind today, SSC
27 OB1504 : Not to mention the fact that we can't reply to the old thread to begin with. Where exactly is the transfers section located?
28 OB1504 : Hate to bring back an old thread, but will they be using their PW or their GE powered A310s? Does it make a difference, performance-wise?
29 PatZSC : Funny enough I was watching Casino Royale/James Bond yesterday night on DVD and there's this one scene shot at MIA where they pass a CSA plane... So h
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