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Allegiant - New Destination Is In The West  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19854 times:

Allegiant will announce its new sunny vacation destination on Feb 18.

The destination will startup with routes to 12 cities.

Looking at the list of cities getting flights, it is apparently a western city.

Flights will operate to Bellingham, Wash.; Grand Junction, Colo.; Monterey, Calif.; Billings, Mont.; McAllen, Tex.; Sioux Falls, S.D.; Des Moines, Iowa; Medford, Ore.; Springfield. Mo.; Fargo, N.D.; Missoula, Mont.; Wichita, Kan.

The company is having a "Guess Allegiant's New Destination and Win" contest to win free tickets. Enter at: http://www.allegiantair.com/contest/


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User currently offlineYNGguins From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 511 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19856 times:

Damn! O well, it's not like YNG was going to get it anyways....


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User currently offlineBA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19810 times:

With the destinations already listed its probably going to be either San Diego/Los Angeles area

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19795 times:
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Yeah...I entered it. I'm hoping it's San Diego.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19784 times:

While it would be great to get all those destinations added to SAN, where would they get the gates? The Commuter Terminal perhaps?


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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19721 times:

I'd like to see it be San Diego. But since they are including Monterey but NOT Fresno  hissyfit  I don't think it will be.

FAT-SAN was one of the best performers for XJet, growing to 3X a day at the end. Not including it would be a big mistake in my opinion (but then what do I know  crazy  )

No, I put about an 80% probability on one of the airports around Los Angeles.

We know SNA and LGB are out.

So either BUR or ONT or they are going to start service at an airport that does not have commercial passenger service right now like SBD.

But watch I'll be wrong and it will turn out to be SAN, without Fresno flights.  hissyfit 



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User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19718 times:

I would say PMD, ONT or anywhere in the greater Los Angeles area. Perfect destination city with Disney/Knots/Hollywood and easy access to Santa Barbara and the surrounding areas.

They've been talking about it forever and now is as good a time as any to start service there. Can't wait to see what it is  Smile



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5790 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19688 times:

FYI to everyone who wants to enter the contest at the link.

I just read the rules.

It sounds like you should live near one of the 12 cities listed, they are giving out one pair of tickets for each of those cities.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19632 times:
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PMD is way out of the way... I wouldn't mind seeing ONT get the service. I believe that airport gets the short end of the stick most of the time.

User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4941 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19578 times:

I'll go for ONT or SAN myself.


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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19555 times:
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Ok, a question. Since it says a NEW sunny destination, and they already fly into SAN (from BLI), would SAN not be out of the running since it would not be a 'new' destination?


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User currently offlineBA744PHX From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19527 times:



Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 10):
Ok, a question. Since it says a NEW sunny destination, and they already fly into SAN (from BLI), would SAN not be out of the running since it would not be a 'new' destination?

You are right so that would take out both OAK & SAN

So I guess its safe to say LA area

[Edited 2009-02-04 10:57:28]

User currently offlineAAflyguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19466 times:

If it is ONT, I wonder whether PSP-BLI will survive...

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19460 times:



Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
Flights will operate to Bellingham, Wash.; Grand Junction, Colo.; Monterey, Calif.; Billings, Mont.; McAllen, Tex.; Sioux Falls, S.D.; Des Moines, Iowa; Medford, Ore.; Springfield. Mo.; Fargo, N.D.; Missoula, Mont.; Wichita, Kan.

Very strange; Medford...but no Eugene. Monterey...but no Fresno. And Grand Junction...but no Colorado Springs. I would have thought Eugene, Fresno and Colorado Sprs would be much stronger markets, if indeed, SAN is the new destination city.



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3411 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19390 times:

I guessed PMD in the other thread early-on, so I'm sticking with that. After that, SAN, OAK, PSP were my other choices, but those aren't "new" so, I'm not sure. ONT sounds like a strong candidate too. The clue "sunny" leads me to think California as well...

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19301 times:



Quote:
PMD is way out of the way.

Wasn't there a thread here recently about LAWA abandoning Palmdale as it is too expensive to run with almost nobody using it? Unless that plan is changing, I think Palmdale won't even be a commercial airport very soon!!



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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3007 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 19289 times:

Stupid, stupid me - I voted Colorado Springs....


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15713 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19213 times:

PMD is a possibility I guess. Quite frankly I hope not since having commercial service and people in general around PMD kinda defeats the purpose.
I personally think that Palm Springs makes more sense. It's already a vaction/snowbird destination and seems (to me at least) somewhat underserved.



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User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19199 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 8):
PMD is way out of the way

Where was it that I heard that PMD Is going to lose its FAA certifications for airline operations??? I think in Airliners.net some place....So I would assume that PMD is out of the running....

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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19154 times:

Any reason why LGB would not be the new destination?

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15713 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19123 times:

Isn't LGB slot restricted? I think there was a big deal when B6 was trying to wrestle away unused slots from the legacies to build their hub there and they wouldnt let them go. It may have changed since, but I imagine that the slots might cost Allegiant an arm and a leg. Although there would most likely not be direct competition, I can't imagine that JetBlue would be too happy about an Allegiant hub at LGB.


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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19112 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 20):
Isn't LGB slot restricted?

Wasn't aware of that. Well I guess that could be a problem!

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 20):
I can't imagine that JetBlue would be too happy about an Allegiant hub at LGB.

They would be downright pissed!

Oh well. Can't enter the contest anyway since my home airport isn't on the list - Melbourne Tullamarine!


User currently offlineSteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1606 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19105 times:

I don't know if we even need to guess as specifically as PMD vs. ONT. The following is an excerpt from the contest rules detailing how the winner will be selected:

Quote:
Winner will be determined by random drawing among those have selected the correct destination. The destination will be defined by any city in a 100 mile radius from the actual destination airport. The drawing will be conducted on or about Feb. 20, 2009 by Allegiant Air (the company) from among all eligible entries. Decisions of the company are final. Odds of winning a prize depend on the total number of eligible entries received.

If I read that correctly, that means you don't need to guess the airport, but merely a city within 100 miles of the airport. That means a guess of "Los Angeles, California" would theoretically be a correct answer for PMD, BUR, LAX, LGB, ONT, SBA, SNA, SAN, and PSP since various parts of the City of Los Angeles proper are within 100 miles of all of those airports.

My guess as to the actual airport is out of left field; I'm going with SBD. I understand that terminal work has been going on there and it's been rumored to receive some kind of passenger service during 2009. It seems like a reasonable enough gateway to Los Angeles and the Inland Empire for G4.


User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 933 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19053 times:



Quoting Steex (Reply 22):
My guess as to the actual airport is out of left field; I'm going with SBD. I understand that terminal work has been going on there and it's been rumored to receive some kind of passenger service during 2009. It seems like a reasonable enough gateway to Los Angeles and the Inland Empire for G4.

Unless someone knows something that I don't...I think that would be an excellent guess!


User currently offlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 19051 times:

Im gonna guess TUS, IFP or RNO.

25 YVR1968 : TUS would certainly be a possibility and IFP. Perhaps IFP would be a bit of a drain on LAS though. They already fly BLI-RNO actually.
26 Iowaman : I'm thinking it will be in the L.A. area as well, specifically ONT. However, I believe someone mentioned ONT has high costs, so I'm not sure. TUS cros
27 Wedgetail737 : I voted for SAN not really thinking about a "new" destination. However, it depends on your interpretation of "new." If they're thinking a "new" focus
28 AAflyguy : Certainly could be SBD. There's been a lot of work going on down there with improving facilities and preparing for some level of commercial service. W
29 SANFan : I have a different theory. They are going to see what city wins the contest and then announce it as the new destination. Simple way of letting the fly
30 L4dashtrash : How about PAE up near seattle, i know they were pettitioning and were having issues, but perhaps they were able to overcome the hurdles and get permis
31 YVR1968 : Dude! It's supposed to be a "sun destination" not a "liquid sunshine destination!" Couldn't resist.
32 SANFan : With service to Bellingham? I doubt it. bb
33 SANFan : Hey S. Gate space would not be an issue these days. After all, you figure maybe 3 flights a week to each destination (12 of them) is about 35-40 flts
34 Wedgetail737 : Have you ever been to Everett? I wouldn't want to spend my vacation there.
35 L4DashTrash : good point forgot that, in which case TUS may not be far off
36 YVR1968 : I would have to say, rule out SAN. Allegiant already flies BLI-SAN and the contest does say... "Allegiant will soon announce a sunny new destination
37 SANFan : Spot on, folks! I honestly think we can eliminate PAE from the final ballot. (After all, this is Allegiant we're talking about here, not SkyBus. This
38 Flyboy7974 : I guessed PSP, looking at the routes and the traditional Allegiant operations, they bring travelers from one end of the world to another. Meaning, I d
39 YVR1968 : Again, don't wanna rain on your parade. But the contest specifically mentions a "new" destination. Since Allegiant already flies BLI - SAN, I would h
40 FATFlyer : SBD now has a nice little terminal that sits unused. Construction is nearly done on the complex which includes 3 jetways and 1 ground boarding gate. A
41 WhatUsaid : So if G4 is hiring in "Los Angeles" and they are, what are we to conclude from that statement? Is Los Angeles really ONT? TUS makes some degree of sen
42 L4DashTrash : well i submitted my guess as Los angeles area, and SBD does sound more and more like the likely candidate, would be nice if it was pmd but it just doe
43 MOBflyer : Do any of these airports have service to the LA area?
44 FATFlyer : Nonstops would only be Medford and Monterey.
45 PVD757 : With initial service to 12 spokes, it has to be a big market, which must be SAN, greater LAX, or Bay area. Which airport they choose is the real guess
46 TOLtommy : DING DING DING We have a winner. LAWA announced in the past few weeks that they were surrendering the certificate to operate scheduled service from t
47 MOBflyer : The city of PMD anticipates reinstating that certificate and hunting for scheduled service on their own. I don't think it is PMD though. Given what F
48 Wjcandee : I love PSP airport and would love to see more service there, but I'm betting on something that's closer to Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, and similar
49 Post contains links Aaway : Also, consider this October, 2008 article, courtesy of Airport Business. A quote from said article: In June the airport issued a request for proposal
50 YNGguins : I put in LAX not knowing anything about west coast airports....
51 TWA902fly : I know Wikipedia isnt a good source of info, but at the same time I will have to support the SBD idea.... ... makes a lot of sense, also considering i
52 Burnsie28 : haha thats kinda funny since COS was one of their first destinations that they had back when all they flew were DC-9's.
53 Burnsie28 : Oh btw for those guessing its not San Diego, since they already serve that from Bellingham.
54 YVR1968 : Yup, and PSP would have to be out too as it is also served already from BLI.
55 Sunking737 : I think it SBD, and would agree with everyone else who says so. After all Southern California is
56 Boslax : How about Cancun. Not sure if the MD80's would have the range though. Its certainly sunny there.
57 Iowaman : Ok, half the people here are making guesses that either aren't possible or are already served NOT possible according to the rules, since it is a new c
58 CIDFlyer : I'll go woth SBD as well, it fits the G4 model, and plus, not only can you capture the enormous southern CA market of LA, Disney, Hollywood etc its al
59 Jet13 : I hope Allegiant's new destination is Bellingham, Washington. Well there's the answer..
60 Apodino : To me, ONT seems like the perfect choice for them aside from Landing Fee's. I know Allegiant doesn't like using Jetways, so I am wondering if Terminal
61 Everett67 : Allegiant is still negotiating with the County Council to use PAE. The County executive originally came out and said no. The feds stepped in and told
62 Coronado990 : But isn't Bellingham technically the "destination city" in this case? San Diego is a "spoke" from the BLI base, not a destination city. When I think
63 YVR1968 : I doubt this is what they mean. I think they are referring to a "new" destinaton. A place they do not fly to already. This rules out SAN. I will also
64 Post contains links Aaway : Well, a big OOPS on my part . Actually a double oops considering this: ...I just don't know??? Actually, I was thinking of SYs IFP service in tandem
65 Aaway : I can't say if the space is available for an airline lessee, but the facility itself is still capable of processing passengers. Would require some mo
66 DCAYOW : I think there is a clue in the employment section, they are hiring mechanic type jobs in "Los Angeles", a market they have no presence in currently.
67 Rampart : COS = 247 days of sun per yr by comparison... Miami = 250 days Orlando = 237 days Reno = 252 Brownsville = 225 Corpus Christi = 224 Salt Lake City =
68 L4DashTrash : SY flies for The riverside and various other hotels in the area, as part schedualed but the bulk is paid for by the riverside resort. G4 has a no com
69 Wedgetail737 : I give ONT more of a chance than SBD. ONT is closer to the Parks than SBD and ONT has better infrastructure to deal with passengers than SBD.
70 Flyboy7974 : I don't see ONT just simply because of the higher costs associated with commercial ops there, moreso then BUR definitely and LGB I believe. But, obvio
71 RentonView : A 5-6 hour drive isn't exactly close, and it's even longer if you're heading to Orange County or San Diego. There are indeed two carriers with flight
72 Aaway : Looking at G4 employment postings indicates a management position and inspector position being filled at LAX. Sounds like AA will begin conducting a
73 FLY2TUS : No one, but we all go somewhere else for the summer.
74 Rampart : That's a good point! Reverse flux, it could work. Of the existing cities mentioned that will connect to the new focus, most are tourist destinations
75 Flyboy7974 : Okay, so noticed as we get going on this ideas are flying and cities are mentioned and conversation is started and it's great seeing us all work off e
76 PVD757 : Given the recent information posted here, it sounds like SBD could be the winner. 13 more days of guessing...
77 Coronado990 : Can I throw YUM in there? I have never seen so many out-of-state license plates like I've seen in Yuma. There were so many from Alberta, Canada alone
78 Sunking737 : For all of you that say it is going to be IFP, think about how close IFP is to LAS. Wouldn't it be a better idea just to add more flights out of LAS t
79 Burnsie28 : Not sure what you were going for since Bellingham has been served for quite sometime. But its a NEW city. I don't think YUM, which can barely support
80 Flyboy7974 : Actually, you are not close at all, those are cross town airports and same destination fields. LAS vs IFP is about what, a 100 mile drive and not muc
81 BA744PHX : Now that is funny!!!
82 Steex : I would assume they would fly a route like MFE-SBD because MFE has decent demand to the Los Angeles area, but nobody currently flies the route. Other
83 Wjcandee : That's a good point; casino proximity would favor ONT over LAX, no? (Assuming that PSP isn't a "new" city.)
84 Rampart : OK, I'm allowed to flip flop. I have nothing riding on this, and who would care? Again, here's the Press Release: It says a sunny new destination from
85 WhatUsaid : You want sun? I give you....(drum roll) The place of G4's birth! FAT. The new multi-million dollar terminal with it's one million dollar fake tree wi
86 YVR1968 : I hear ya, but I still think it is referring to a new destination. A destination they do not already fly to at all. The way it is worded implies it i
87 FATFlyer : Me? I know nothing, nothing. Nothing definite anyway. I'm sure we have lurkers though who do know and are smiling as they read the guesses. I do know
88 Rampart : Wasn't Bellingham a spoke city to LAS before it became it's own focus city? Someone correct me if I'm mistaken. As a focus city, it also links a coup
89 Kinglobjaw : I believe only one person mentioned it, but I also think it will be ABQ. They can market it as ABQ/Santa Fe area.
90 GentFromAlaska : A clue would be "sunny" That would certainly rule a few cities out. SAN would definitely be in the running. I picked ABQ
91 Sunking737 : I will stay with SBD, But could they toss another city along the Gulf Coast. Maybe not in FL., but some where in Louisiana? Or maybe in FL. Pensacola,
92 L4DashTrash : This is actually a great marketing tool for allegiant, They get people excited and talking about allegiant, as well the guesses tell allegiant where p
93 Alias1024 : You forgot the air pollution so thick that you can cut it with a knife. A few people have mentioned ABQ. I just don't think that will work. While tou
94 Aaway : From the SBD website: ..........Landing Fees (p/1000 lbs.)......... Fuel Flowage (p/gal.)........ RON (based a/c Grp III) SBD.............. $1.00....
95 Post contains links FATFlyer : Ahh shoot. This is no fun, someone let the secret out. Allegiant Air adds new destination: Los Angeles Sioux Falls Regional Airport Director Mike Marn
96 Post contains links FATFlyer : And just for the record about next year, especially for those of you in the midwest and on the east coast: The article also says "Allegiant officials
97 Wedgetail737 : OAK definitely has the capacity available to handle G4. However, I wouldn't consider the San Francisco Bay Area a sunny destination, as compared to th
98 Burnsie28 : As much as I would love to see COS get more service, here's why its not COS, because its going to have service from Grand Junction. Exactly a NEW DES
99 FATFlyer : I did 2 posts, I guess its confusing. The "sunny" destination is going to be Los Angeles, as I mentioned in post 95 San Francisco is the future buildu
100 WhatUsaid : That's about right when talking about Riverside and San Bernadino on a hot summer day.
101 YNGguins : I guessed the right city- Los Angeles... I probably guessed the wrong arirport-LAX.
102 Burnsie28 : Probably with the sky high operating costs of LAX.
103 Post contains links FATFlyer : Yep its much worse in the Inland Empire than Fresno. In 2007, according to the EPA: Fresno County had 19 days of unhealthy air Riverside County had 3
104 SANFan : I had a couple of free hours yesterday and drove up I-215 to take a look at SBD. There is no question that they are finishing things up for a Grand Op
105 FATFlyer : SBD would normally be only about an extra 15 minutes to Disneyland vs. ONT. If the fares are low enough leisure travellers will complain but still bo
106 WhatUsaid : As to MRY, I'm wondering if they won't try dual promotion, with MRY as a destination for those in So Cal and the reverse for the MRY crowd, thus tryi
107 FATFlyer : I agree, but we will see what Allegiant can find. Would there be much traffic out of MRY to Palm Springs and the rest of the desert cities? SBD is on
108 Post contains links FATFlyer : hey WhatUsaid I just saw the new video spot for FAT and its remodeling, you seen this yet? Here's the link. http://www.fresno.gov/video/airport/FYI-4
109 WhatUsaid : Nope, hadn't seen the video but sure have experienced everything first hand.. Went through FAT last night at 11 after coming in from DEN on yet anoth
110 UAopsMGR : Disregard...please delete[Edited 2009-02-06 14:11:52]
111 CIDflyer : I know alot of people still would like ONT, but I still think it will be SBD, if only for the fact that people said there has been lots of constructio
112 SANFan : But of course G4 already flies directly in and out of the Springs. Maybe they'll drop it now? I agree that small airports certainly have their advant
113 Aaway : SANFan, Out of curiosity, how much time did it take to travel between SBD and the Temecula area - both inbound and outbound? It'd be my hope that G4 r
114 PlanesNTrains : We've flown SEA-ONT a number of times traveling to Disneyland, as we have friends in Yucaipa that we like to visit occasionally. The distance really
115 SANFan : Kirsten, my GPS , told me it was about 38 miles from Temecula to SBD; n/b it took just about :45 (~1pm-1:45pm) and s/b was about :55 (~2:15pm-3:10pm)
116 Icebird757 : I would say that SAN is out since it's already a city they fly to/from. I would think maybe PSP.
117 Aaway : As destinations unto themselves, no. Benefitting from G4s/Allegiant Vacations efforts to sell the area, or gateway, yes. If SBD is the new gateway, I
118 WhatUsaid : G4 wouldn't go into SBD for the Inland Empire - there's nothing there. What SBD does provide is a centralized drop off for those who want to rent a c
119 Seb146 : I entered the contest and said Laughlin. There is an interactive route map on the site. From that, it looks like flights from all mentioned cities in
120 Post contains links FATFlyer : Time to remind people that the basic location is out, the only secret is which airport. I already posted this up above. The airport director at Sioux
121 CIDflyer : I think you've hit the nail on the head. This is going to be aimed at people from the mountain west and midwest who want to get there non-stop and ch
122 Wjcandee : Has anybody told the dufus who pre-released the information that he's a dufus, yet?
123 Wedgetail737 : Wouldn't SNA be closer?
124 Post contains links CIDflyer : for what its worth, found this article that is pointing to SBD as the destination http://peoriastation.blogpeoria.com/...r-destination-will-peoria-ben
125 FATFlyer : " target=_blank>http://peoriastation.blogpeoria.com/...efit/ That link says "Speculation in the airline enthusiast community has narrowed it down to
126 Humberside : Whereever the destination is, I'm surprised Rockford isn't in the batch of 12 initial destinations, considering that it's one off G4's largest spokes
127 PlanesNTrains : To Disneyland? Sure, but fares are usually higher, and we actually prefer LGB. However, I was just saying that we sometimes choose ONT because we vis
128 FATFlyer : Its about 1600 miles RFD to Southern California, Allegiant hasn't been adding spokes of that length. Average stage length at Allegiant has fallen and
129 MtnWest1979 : How about the old March AFB? Not sure how they refer to it now know Airborne/DHL does/did operate there so why not pax trips? I am pretty much kidding
130 Wedgetail737 : I'll agree...ONT is really not that far from Disneyland and Knotts Berry Farm. In a way, I kind of hope G4 picks ONT over SBD just because ONT has mu
131 Wjcandee : And ONT is just a nice airport. Clean, modern, relatively-uncrowded, with big-airport amenities without as much hassle.
132 SANFan : For those of you continuing to hope for ONT, I repeat from my earlier post: I guarantee that SOMETHING is about to happen at SBD and will be totally s
133 Icebird757 : What about Allegiant flying into LAX?
134 FATFlyer : I don't think it would happen, Allegiant likes the smaller and less expensive outlying airports. Remember, Allegiant was flying into SFO from Belling
135 Wedgetail737 : I don't know what ONT looks like now. It's been quite a while since I've flown into ONT...maybe the mid-to-late 1980's when AS was just receiving new
136 Aaway : The military portion of the facility is known as March Air Reserve Base. The civilian portion, known as March Inland Port, and administered by the Ma
137 San747 : It's a LOT different than it was in the 80s... Like Wjcandee said, terminals 2/4 are very clean, airy, modern facilities (each terminal has I believe
138 PanAm747 : In reference to the statements about SBD and ONT being "near" to Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm, let me point out the distances involved: ONT - Dis
139 Wedgetail737 : It can't be any worse than flying to LAX to go to either of the two parks. SNA and LGB are the best airports for the two parks...but there's not a ch
140 PlanesNTrains : The only thing to consider, though, is that we are talking about the average Allegiant customer. I agree that driving upwards of 60 miles isn't "conv
141 Jbrusnak : Also, consider how Allegiant works. They appear to make a good bit of money bundling up vacation packages and extras. I could easily see them includi
142 Steex : I think another thing worth noting about this is that the G4 customer coming from the proposed destinations would be deciding between flying non-stop
143 FATFlyer : Don't forget that at SFB passengers are sold Disney World and Daytona Beach. SFB to Disney World = 54.6 miles, about a 1 hour drive assuming no traff
144 Wjcandee : Has anyone figured out for sure which airport will be used? I've heard good reasons to think SBD, yet someone seems to think for sure that it's LAX.
145 YVR1968 : Well I guess we have 1 day and 6 hours to go until it is released......
146 Wjcandee : It should be obvious to at least some A.net members by now what the answer is, and not just those who would be covered by some sort of non-disclosure
147 Wedgetail737 : SBD sounds like it would work, but I still think ONT would be the better choice. Only my opinion, though.
148 MOBflyer : Have you? Please tell us what you saw!
149 YVR1968 : Well, in exactly 12 hours, we should know the answer to the mystery!
150 Post contains links YNGguins : Not sure if anyone saw this: http://www.ksfy.com/news/local/39644597.html Sioux Falls to LA. Just doesn't say which airport in LA!
151 FATFlyer : A little more than that. The announcement is scheduled for Wednesday morning.
152 Post contains links FATFlyer : For those around Springfield-Branson on Wednesday Allegiant Air will announce our airport’s new destination this Wednesday, February 18, at 11:00 am
153 YVR1968 : Well, their website says (now) 9 hours... hmm.. maybe their countdown clock is reading my clock.. Aussie time!
154 FATFlyer : That's probably what it does. Unfortunately you are a day ahead of us. I show the clock at 1 day 4 hours.
155 BA744PHX : I show my clock at 1 day 45minutes EST. So does anyone know the actual time they will announce?
156 YVR1968 : Yup, I just played with my computer's clock and depending on what time is set affects the countdown clock. That is pretty stupid of them! They should
157 Hatbutton : Haha I set mine 2 days ahead and now the clock says "undefined days undefined hours." Darn! I was holding out a slight hope that maybe something woul
158 YVR1968 : Ha ha.. beat you to that! I am going to guess 9:00am PST Wednesday morning?
159 FATFlyer : Officially I thnk it is 9AM Pacific time on Wednesday. But I expect it will be out before that, either through media leaks or some indicator on a web
160 Jeb94 : I think I know what it is. Doesn't ONT have noise restrictions?
161 FX1816 : Actually ONT has NO glass jetways, just the regular old kind at most every other airport in the US. Nope, well at least none that would affect Allegi
162 CYQL : My money is on SBD. I would much rather drive from San Bernadino to Disneyland, than from LAX. Hopefully they will add Great Falls or Kalispell flight
163 ONTFlyer : That is correct. They were installed last year. Not sure of the exact number now but they're pretty cool to use. Something different from the norm. O
164 FX1816 : I guess I stand corrected, which gates or Terminal I just never saw them. FX1816
165 Wjcandee : Does the fact that there was an Allegiant flight from Reno to ONT this afternoon mean anything? MD87, flight 6161 arrived 3:16pm and back out as 6162
166 Slcdeltarumd11 : I was gonna go in and vote for ontario under my roomates email. Looks like its too late to vote now. Looks like im commited to my tucson arizona answe
167 FATFlyer : Nope, just a flight for Harrahs charter track program in Reno/Tahoe. The gamblers left ONT on 2/13 and came back yesterday. Valentines day gambling?
168 YNGguins : I bet we find out tonight from news reports.
169 WhatUsaid : So, did anyone catch G4 at BUR on Friday? Guess not, or the rumors would have been flying over the weekend. So, who is going over to SBD today so that
170 Post contains links FX1816 : Anyone have any information on this aircraft: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N611GT Looks like it's headed down to SBD from LAS right now. Is it a
171 Steex : That aircraft is owned by International Game Technology, a company out of Reno that makes slot machines and whatnot. I would imagine it's flight into
172 San747 : No problem, that's what this forum is for. When I worked at ONT, they were in the process of installing them. I believe the gates that now have them
173 FATFlyer : Probably going from there to one of the casinos east of the airport.
174 ONTFlyer : As of the last time I flew yes that's correct. Not sure if there are plans to install them on all the gates or if they are going to use the first 6 a
175 Flyboy7974 : The BUR flight was a Harrah's charter flight, they went out few days before when a LGB group returned and the flight hopped over to BUR for the pickup
176 FX1816 : Thanks for the info. They must have done that later in 2008 I was still with DHL in early 2008 and hadn't noticed. I will be flying out in a bout 3 w
177 San747 : No problem... I worked for ATS from March-June 2007... my very first ramp job! I was on the crew that handled CO at gate 207.
178 Sunking737 : WSJ is saying LAX? Boy that kind of missed the boat for most of us.
179 Wedgetail737 : What time is G4 supposed to announce the new destination today? 9am PST?
180 WhatUsaid : A news report out of Springfield came out a few minutes ago, saying it's LAX. Same came from the Associated Press last evening regarding the service f
181 FATFlyer : As I just said on the other thread it is more than LA. I'm in the schedules right now. They are adding Monterey to San Diego 3X week also. I'm still l
182 Post contains links PVD757 : Wow, it is LAX: http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews/aaNews20090218a.php "Bellingham, Wash. (Vancouver, B.C. area) – begins May 2 with fares as low as
183 Wedgetail737 : I must say that is quite the surprise. Too bad I got it wrong for the contest. LOL!
184 FlyPNS1 : It is interesting that G4 is choosing to go head-to-head with other airlines on two routes. MRY-LAX is already flown by AA/UA. MFR-LAX is flown by AS.
185 YNGguins : I GOT IT RIGHT IN THE CONTEST. But the problem is I live in Youngstown, OH. So forget about me winning any tickets!
186 LoneStarMike : I think Allegiant is looking to serve the O&D market. Aren't most of the people who take those flights on the legacies making connections at LAX, or
187 Wedgetail737 : Also, G4 will only be serving those markets 3 to 4 times per week. It will put a small amount of pressure on the smaller guys. But I don't think it w
188 Cidflyer : wow LAX sure is a surpise, I was betting on SBD, but like the G4 spokeswoman said LAX offers so much more name brand recognition. Good for Allegiant,
189 FlyPNS1 : For MRY, I'd say it's more connecting than O+D, but there is an O+D market there. For MFR, I'd say more O+D and less connecting. I agree, I don't thi
190 Wedgetail737 : I wonder if they'll bring out the MD-87's to the LAX market.
191 N908AW : Certainly would help in the range department.
192 Mfejourno : Great news for McAllen. That's three Allegiant destinations for MFE. Are any other Allegiant destinations now linked to three or more hubs?
193 Iowaman : DSM, FSD, RFD, SGF, and FAR are linked to four.
194 WichitaFlyer : I guessed correctly. Now, it is just waiting to see who wins the tickets from Wichita.
195 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Actually, with the new LAX service, SGF will be linked to five, according to their route map LoneStarMike
196 Steex : Keep in mind that, per the stated rules of the contest (pertinent excerpt shown below), a person would only have to guess any city within 100 miles o
197 Globalflyer : Anyone know what Terminal G4 will utilize at LAX? Wonder who will also handle them?
198 Humberside : I know this has been posted before and got deleted but has anyone got a list of frequencies for the new routes?
199 GentFromAlaska : "Sunny" wasn't the best choice of a word. Smog would have been better! Additionally a sea fog layer was apparent the handful of times I landed there
200 PacificWest : Nice... the Medford/Rogue Valley area has a ton of people that go to LA and back frequently.... but with Horizon's super high fares, many opt to drive
201 SANFan : Thanks for finding this little tidbit, 'Flyer! Nice to hear; can FAT-SAN be far behind?!?!?! I'll have to do some poking around too. (If they are goi
202 Hatbutton : Really? I find it hard to believe that many people would drive that far. Especially biz pax. G4's intro fare on this route is about $175 round trip a
203 MtnWest1979 : LA Times article says that they plan on using Terminal 6.
204 RentonView : I think you're right, WedgeTail; the market Allegiant is going after to/from MRY is entirely different than what OO and MQ are focused on, which is c
205 Wedgetail737 : It's good to see MRY getting mainline aircraft again. There's plenty of people that live in and around the Monterey Bay Area. As you said, MRY also h
206 Post contains links FATFlyer : How about doing some arm twisting? We would love to see FAT-SAN operated by someone again. Do you know any of the managers at the hotels Allegiant us
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