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CLT Groundstop Due Aircraft Hitting Deer  
User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 10659 times:

Seriously!

Look for the NOTAM on the cookout shortly...  Wink



ATCSCC ADVZY 004 CLT/ZTL 02/05/2009 CDM GROUND STOP
MESSAGE:
CTL ELEMENT: CLT
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 0107Z
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 05/0057Z - 05/0200Z
DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (1STTIER) ZME ZTL ZID ZHU ZJX ZDC
PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0
NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 1287 / 56 / 42
PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: MEDIUM
IMPACTING CONDITION: OTHER / OTHER
COMMENTS: ARRIVING AIRCRAFT STRUCK A DEER ON RWY36C.

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User currently offlineKleinsim From Qatar, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10552 times:

This reminds me of a stand up comedian I saw on YouTube some time last year.

"Was the aircraft on the ground when it struck the deer?"


User currently offlineUAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10524 times:

Anyone know whose aircraft it was?

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10510 times:



Quoting OPNLguy (Thread starter):
COMMENTS: ARRIVING AIRCRAFT STRUCK A DEER ON RWY36C.

First geese, now deer. When will these stupid animals learn?  duck 



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2264 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10488 times:

Oh good! The meat wasn't damaged. I'll buy the beer!


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10432 times:



Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 4):
Oh good! The meat wasn't damaged. I'll buy the beer!

So are the USAirways MX guys making deer stew tonight?



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10368 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 3):
When will these stupid animals learn

That's no way to talk about an airline crew!
 Big grin  duck 

Reminds me of an ATC transmission that I'm sure is an urban legend:

Tower: Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on frequency 124.7

EA702: Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure. By the way, after we lifted off we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway.

Tower: Continental 635, cleared for takeoff behind Eastern 702, contact Departure on frequency 124.7. Did you copy that report from Eastern 702?

CO635: Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, roger; and yes, we copied Eastern... we've already notified our caterers.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10302 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 6):
That's no way to talk about an airline crew!

Wait, so it was a Mesa plane?  flamed   Wink



Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineLHboyatDTW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10145 times:

What is it with animals and planes related to CLT?  Confused

First geese, now deer. What next?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10063 times:

Maybe US can start selling these flights as Safari's?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 870 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10012 times:

I know there are plenty of birdstrikes, but DEER? How'd it get on the runway? Is the CLT airport in a wooded environment?

I can only imagine the "deer in the headlights" look as the plane rumbled down the runway, going significantly faster than your average driver!



Pilot: "Request push, which way should we face?" JFK Ground: "You better face the front, sir, or you'll scare the pax!"
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10004 times:

US 3215 BNA-CLT, a Republic E-175

Deer are also a common issue at airports. Essentially an airport is more or less a large, open field. Often there are adjacent wooded areas near airports, plus they are protected due to fencing and often hunting isn't allowed. Airports will sometimes bring in sharpshooters as necessary.

An XJ Saab hit a deer up in CMX a few years ago. Squarely hit the #1 engine on takeoff roll very near V1. Ended up shearing off two of the prop blades (at near-max RPM), significantly damaging the engine cowling, and ingested "guts" into the engine. The aircraft was out of service for over a month.


User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 711 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9975 times:

This is not new for CLT. I had a flt CLT-DEN 733 that hit a deer on the exact same runway, although it was several years back. Messed up the engine cowling pretty bad, luckily the deer was deflected down towards the runway rather than into the engine. Although there are neighborhoods near the airport on the west side, there are plenty of wooded areas around.

Don't know if they are still there, but there were several Foxes that lived on the airport property about midfield.

MD


User currently offlineLoggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9911 times:

Republic is having an unlucky day of things today. One of our planes got hit by a De-ice truck in BOS, then the deer in CLT, and our plane is OTS in YYZ for MX. From what I've heard, the damage is minimal, if not non-existant, but they were trying to track down a power washer as the deer guts made quite a mess.


There are 3 types of people in this world, those that can count, and those that can't.
User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9752 times:

There was an incident out at AST in 2002 where a Learjet 36 hit an Elk on takeoff....the plane caught fire and was destroyed.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20021205X05569&key=1

 Wink

I almost turned a coyote into mincemeat with the prop one day on the runway at LRU...I didn't know it was possible to lock the brakes in a Cessna 150 until that incident  Smile



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9742 times:

Any word on if the game warden is going to allow the flight crew to keep the vennison? Big grin


Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
User currently offlineThePalauan From Guam, joined Oct 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9044 times:



Quoting Kleinsim (Reply 1):
This reminds me of a stand up comedian I saw on YouTube some time last year.

"Was the aircraft on the ground when it struck the deer?"

That's from Bill Engval during one his "Here's Your Sign" routines from the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. I can imagine him reading this and flipping out at the chances of something like THIS happening.



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User currently offlineFreeze3192 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8205 times:

Warning...these are graphic pictures. This is what happens when a King Air meets a deer.

http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13053lp1.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13054km2.jpg



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7802 times:



Quoting Freeze3192 (Reply 17):
Warning...these are graphic pictures. This is what happens when a King Air meets a deer.

A buddy of mine used to work for Presidential at IAD, and he said one of their 737-200s hit one on landing there once. The animal got itself literally wrapped around the nose gear, and when the aircraft blocked-in at the gate, the deer was facing forward, almost like an odd "hood ornament" of sorts. Nobody got a picture, not that anyone knows about, anyways...


User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7454 times:



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 11):
An XJ Saab hit a deer up in CMX a few years ago.

Did you ever see the pics of that? It was impressive. The stroller to prop incident had some good pics too.



Hey Swifty
User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7337 times:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20010904X01874&key=1

Heres another plane-deer accident from MSN in 2001.



Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineAdam42185 From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7167 times:



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 11):
Deer are also a common issue at airports. Essentially an airport is more or less a large, open field.

Dont some airports have a double airport fence around it so that deer when trying to get in will get trapped between the two fences? I think SBN has something like that, or were considering it. All hear-say though.

Wildlife strikes are serious problems at many airports and theres only so much that we can do to prevent it. Eliminating food sources, fences, stuff like that, but I dont think the issue of wildlife strikes is going anywhere anytime soon


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7044 times:



Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 21):
Wildlife strikes are serious problems at many airports and theres only so much that we can do to prevent it. Eliminating food sources, fences, stuff like that, but I dont think the issue of wildlife strikes is going anywhere anytime soon

We should just make it entirely concrete.... that would solve the problem.... somewhat.



Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineCatIII From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6593 times:

If I recall correctly, a USAir Express Dash-8 ran into a deer on the landing rollout a few years back (at one of the outstations in North Carolina). The pictures were very impressive.

User currently offlineSNA752 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6413 times:



Quoting Freeze3192 (Reply 17):
Warning...these are graphic pictures. This is what happens when a King Air meets a deer.

I find it ironic how it says "Ministry of Health" on the side of the aircraft...and the deer looks to be in poor health at the moment.

 alert 

So hawks are often used to shoo away birds in the area, but are foxes and snipers the only active means used to get rid of deer?



Dare to think different.
25 2H4 : If the deer can get over the first airport fence, what's to stop it from getting over the second one? 2H4
26 Xtoler : Yes, I do remember that, and saw the pictures. I sent the pictures to my mom who works for the VA Dept. of Game and Inland Fisheries. They got a kick
27 Adam42185 : I thought the idea was that the two fences were close enough that the deer couldnt get a running leap over the fence -- but then again maybe they don
28 CatIII : any idea if they're online?
29 Dragon6172 : Where is that comment about this thread is worthless with out pictures?
30 AirKas1 : We sometimes have a deer onthe field aswell. Most of the time we'll try to get it off unharmed. Go with a few vehicles, close the deer in and let it o
31 Post contains links Beertrucker : It is not always deer but other animals sometimes get in the way of planes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYCnowBC2g
32 Viscount724 : A CX flight departing YYZ for HKG a week or so ago hit a coyote on takeoff. They had to close the runway for half an hour or so to clean up the remai
33 PSU.DTW.SCE : Yep, I saw the deer pictures, it looked more like they hit an elk! I think I still be able to dig them up. Never saw the stroller to prop incident, b
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