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US Airways A320 Down In Hudson River, Part 7  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3019 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23435 times:

ATC recordings of the US Airways crash in the Hudson have been released...

Listening to the tapes makes your hair stand on end, and puts everything into context on what was going through the ATC and pilots mind...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...Air_Traffic_Control_Audio_Released

The above link to the website should hopefully be updated shortly with the recordings...

They have on Sky News now a pilot from British Airways giving his interpretation of the tapes as a lot of Jargon people would be unfamilar with.

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User currently offlineJamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23334 times:

Its currently being shown on sky news.

User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1410 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23354 times:

CNN has it published on their web site: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/05/1549.voice.recorder.tape/index.html


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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23263 times:

Wow talk about being calm! Great job to the entire crew...I think the ATC controller was saying Catus 1529, but it was 1549.


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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3019 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23276 times:

The BA pilot interpreting the tapes has been shocked by some of what he has heard on the tapes and made some of the following comments...

1)
The pilot has not declared a "Mayday" emergency, despite admitting to ATC he has lost power to both engines...

2)
Also he was extremely shocked by LGA's ATC still talking to other aircraft on the same frequency after the pilot has revealed he has no power and not giving the pilot of the US Airways flight his own dedicated frequency.

These are not my views but comments from the pilot on TV and please don't flame me, but they do seem valid. But I don't work in ATC and no one know the thoughts going through the peoples minds at the time of the incident.

(The pilot commenting on Sky News is the pilot of a BA 747 who lost power to all 4 engines over the Indian Ocean on a flight from Australia - If anyone recalls that incident...)


User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3947 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 23116 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):

1)
The pilot has not declared a "Mayday" emergency, despite admitting to ATC he has lost power to both engines...

Do you *have* to declare a Mayday, even when the situation is blatantly obviously one when described as such - 'we have lost both engines' (paraphrased as I havent listened to the tape yet) can't really be anything but an emergency, can it?

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
2)
Also he was extremely shocked by LGA's ATC still talking to other aircraft on the same frequency after the pilot has revealed he has no power and not giving the pilot of the US Airways flight his own dedicated frequency.

Do you let the pilots work the problem or do you interrupt them to get them to switch frequencies? Damned if you do, and damned if you don't imho...


User currently offlineJamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 23044 times:

Not flaming Gilesdavies as I heard the BA pilot make the same comments, just adding my views.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
The pilot has not declared a "Mayday" emergency, despite admitting to ATC he has lost power to both engines...

OK yes in theory he should have declared a Mayday, however ATC understood the situation. A mayday call would have taken extra time to transmit and at that moment in time I would bet both pilots were pretty busy! Trust me its bad enough in the sim, nevermind the real aircraft.

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
Also he was extremely shocked by LGA's ATC still talking to other aircraft on the same frequency after the pilot has revealed he has no power and not giving the pilot of the US Airways flight his own dedicated frequency

The problem with this is that they would then have to dial up a new frequency, something I'm sure they didnt need at that moment in time. The controller did start to hand off other aircraft to other sectors and could have imposed radio silence but as the airspace over new york is extremely busy we could have had far more problems if he had have done this.

The most chilling thing listening to the recording for me is the final transmission by the plane when the master warning starts going off. This would be a warning from the GPWS telling them they are too low with no gear down (approx 800ft in airbus).


User currently offlineEmirates001 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 23027 times:

I think one of the best points from this recording is how composed the pilot sounds. As an ex-military pilot his cool-under-pressure revealed itself that day.

I've heard some CVRs that reveal an altogether different side to a pilot under duress (and quite understandably too, I should add).


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2886 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 23025 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Do you let the pilots work the problem or do you interrupt them to get them to switch frequencies? Damned if you do, and damned if you don't imho...

I completely agree. I remember learning back in college that the primary function of the pilot in an emergency situation is to aviate, then navigate, then IF THE SITUATION PERMITS, communicate externally (outside of communications w/ the rest of the crew). Considering the circumstances (losing both engines at only a few thousand feet) the flight deck crew had to do a lot of aviating and navigating, hence the minimal communications with ATC (you can hear on more than one occasion that the only response was simply "unable"). However, I do think ATC did a good job opening up as many options as he could to the crew (LGA return, TEB communications established, EWR as well).

~H81



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User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2482 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 23031 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Do you *have* to declare a Mayday, even when the situation is blatantly obviously one when described as such - 'we have lost both engines' (paraphrased as I havent listened to the tape yet) can't really be anything but an emergency, can it?

As an air traffic controller up in Canada, I can tell you that 90% of all emergencies i've gotten, neither the words MAYDAY, PAN PAN PAN were used.

Mostly, either the pilot says "we're declaring an emergency", or he doesn't even use those words. If he doesnt, ATC will know the severity of the situation by the nature of the explanations the pilot gives you, so he will be able to determine if the situation warrants a priority or not.

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22979 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
The BA pilot interpreting the tapes has been shocked by some of what he has heard on the tapes and made some of the following comments...

1)
The pilot has not declared a "Mayday" emergency, despite admitting to ATC he has lost power to both engines...

2)
Also he was extremely shocked by LGA's ATC still talking to other aircraft on the same frequency after the pilot has revealed he has no power and not giving the pilot of the US Airways flight his own dedicated frequency.

1. It was fairly obvious to everyone involved at the moment this was an emergency. No need for a formal declaration.

2. If he (BA pilot) shocks this easily, I would prefer not to have him operate in similar circumstances. Any frequency shuffling here would have been a waste of time and effort. Issuing the US Airways flight a frequency change, in my opinion, would have been a criminal act. As it was the controller stopped departures, which in effect stopped further traffic coming to the frequency.
As an ATC, I had several emergency situations on my freq. over the years. You handle it and keep doing ALL of the work at hand. If a freq. change become advantageous, then you do it.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22987 times:

The BA pilot should know better....

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
1)
The pilot has not declared a "Mayday" emergency, despite admitting to ATC he has lost power to both engines...

Bigger problems to deal with than an already understood formality

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 4):
2)
Also he was extremely shocked by LGA's ATC still talking to other aircraft on the same frequency after the pilot has revealed he has no power and not giving the pilot of the US Airways flight his own dedicated frequency.

Again, no time... Sully barely had time to talk on ATC.

Also keep in mind what you are hearing is the "Shout Line" from the tracon to LGA and TEB. Its the phone next to the controller in the radar room that is directly linked to the LGA and TEB towers.

Thats where you hear "La Guardia, hold your departures" and "Teterboro, got an emergency inbound" Theres too much communication uncertainty and checklists on both ends all in the duration of about 90-120 seconds between the bird strike and water landing



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User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22663 times:

I haven't listened to the audio yet, but just read the transcripts and was on the edge of my seat with that nervous feeling.

A couple of interesting reads were the communications from the Class Bravo Airspace working the chopper traffic. I remember seeing the Passur link showing traffic coming up the Hudson as 1549 was descending. We see now what N152TA was seeing.

The communication between TEB ATC and TEB Ops, when ATC advised there's an Airbus inbound and Ops initial reaction that he's too heavy and the quick OK when ATC advised he was 'fallin down'.

These transcripts were just amazing to read. I'm still saying WOW, when I think about it.


User currently offlineChuchoteur From France, joined Sep 2006, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22533 times:

hmh, is there an mp3 link somewhere?

User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22533 times:

Here you go:
http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/1549/


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7703 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22493 times:
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Quoting CLE757 (Reply 3):
Wow talk about being calm! Great job to the entire crew...I think the ATC controller was saying Catus 1529, but it was 1549.

Yes, and the transcript
here
also shows the crew calling themselves Cactus 1539! ATC switch between 1529 and 1549.



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User currently offline757GB From Uruguay, joined Feb 2009, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22358 times:

Yes, WOW sounds about right...

I can't help but wonder what was going through the controller's mind as he continued doing his job. A hundred questions a minute wondering what happened to the Cactus flight, if they were down somewhere - it was clear they couldn't make the airport - and if at that very moment people were dying.

After all, how many of us could have predicted that there would be NO fatalities?

Frankly regardless of whether there was a Mayday or the flight numbers were right or wrong, the job these people did was amazing IMHO.



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6594 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22289 times:
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Quoting 757GB (Reply 16):
I can't help but wonder what was going through the controller's mind as he continued doing his job. A hundred questions a minute wondering what happened to the Cactus flight,

It is amazing.. The recording shows the controller to have an even tone throughout except at

2030:14 cactus fifteen tweny nine uh you still on

There is a crack in his voice.. and who could blame him!



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22233 times:



Quoting Jamotcx (Reply 6):
OK yes in theory he should have declared a Mayday, however ATC understood the situation. A mayday call would have taken extra time to transmit and at that moment in time I would bet both pilots were pretty busy! Trust me its bad enough in the sim, nevermind the real aircraft.

I think it was pretty obvious that the pilot mentioned he might not be able to make any airport. The real clue to ATC was when he said the Hudson a few times. I think that pretty much gives ATC the impression that they were in big trouble.



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User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22053 times:
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Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 8):

Couldn't agree more, it's saved me before. No amount of safety equipment and technical jargon can do more than flying in safe and responsible manner. As my instructor eloquently puts it "It doesn't matter if you and all the controllers know where you died, its best just not to die"

Well done to all flight1549 crew and all the controllers involved, I hope (and presume in some instances) that this is the standard all over the world.

Fred


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22018 times:

One area not released... LGA tower itself controlling the active runways....and it appears that there is a 'river' frequency that all aircraft overhead the scene used....some of them were on the LGA departure freq initially but not later.

Side note...was there an interview with the N152TA crew...the eurocopter that happened to be right there when it all came down? Anyone have a link?


User currently offlineOsiris30 From Barbados, joined Sep 2006, 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21947 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 17):
2030:14 cactus fifteen tweny nine uh you still on

There is a crack in his voice.. and who could blame him!

What do you expect. In his mind I'm sure he thought he would be the last person to have talked to that flight crew ever. I do not envy people like ATC in these situations. I would much rather be on the flightdeck with some sense (even if false) of control over the situation than a helpless observer.



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User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2135 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21936 times:



Quoting CLE757 (Reply 3):
.I think the ATC controller was saying Catus 1529, but it was 1549.

Both the controller and the pilot mixed up the callsign.

Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Do you let the pilots work the problem or do you interrupt them to get them to switch frequencies?

Always a tough consideration. We note that the flight crew did not respond while still airborne; I'm sure they heard the transmissions, but had more pressing items to complete.

Quoting Emirates001 (Reply 7):
As an ex-military pilot his cool-under-pressure revealed itself that day.

I'm just curious if there's any studies, anywhere, at any time, that reveal military pilots to be better able to handle stress than civilian pilots. It's of course rhetorical - such a concept is ludicrous.

Quoting Emirates001 (Reply 7):
I've heard some CVRs that reveal an altogether different side to a pilot under duress

No doubt both 1549 pilots were under duress (they'd have to be dead if they weren't stressed), as evidenced by the aforementioned mixup in his own callsign. A very minor, yet telling mistake that the best pilots are prone to make.

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
Bigger problems to deal with than an already understood formality

Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. In that order. It's proven itself to work one more time.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21939 times:

I saw this on Yahoo news and listened to the sound cast of the cockpit and ATC. I thought this would never be released to the general public.

I greatly admire Capt. Sullenberger, his co-pilot and the entire crew for handling this freaky situation the way they have with all the calm and concentration. How remarkable of them!



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User currently offlineGoaliemn From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21822 times:



Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 20):
One area not released... LGA tower itself controlling the active runways....and it appears that there is a 'river' frequency that all aircraft overhead the scene used....some of them were on the LGA departure freq initially but not later.

There is a hudson river frequency that pilots use when flying up and down the hudson. The hudson river is uncontrolled airspace, so its a self-announce frequency. There are landmarks that you are supposed to report yourself at, as you cross them, along with your altitude so other planes know where you are.

Hudson 123.05
East River 123.075

They do recommend monitoring NY approach as you approach the lower end of the river.


25 Thenoflyzone : Happens regularly with 4 digit call signs.....*cough*...Air Canada Jazz...*cough*...(they caught on to the problem though and fixed it. The problem i
26 D L X : So, the BA pilot who lost all his engines at cruising altitude and had what, 20+ minutes to get down is criticizing a pilot who lost his engines not t
27 Threepoint : Speaking personally, this was a great solution. I fly all the time with Jazz on the frequency, and this has tremendously simplified our situational a
28 SNA752 : I figured they would eventually- this just seemed really fast. The worst (and by worst I mean most difficult to listen to) ATC transmission is Swissa
29 N83SF : What is protocol for ATC when an aircraft declares an emergency, like in this situation? Are they still permitted to talk to other aircraft while tran
30 Osiris30 : He doesn't have much choice. Aircraft inbound/outbound NYC constantly. The last thing he wants to do is not do his job and have a mid-air on top of a
31 RussianJet : Well, the other planes in that crowded airspace don't just vanish into thin air just because there's an emergency.
32 Moo : Ok, I've just listened to the CNN feed, and one thing immediately strikes me. The pilot saying "we may end up in the Hudson", and the long pause befo
33 Bcoz : Just curious... Does anybody know if Capt. Sullenberger or First Officer Skiles was handling the radio? The dude on that mic is one cool customer! Aga
34 Flyin5glow : At first when I heard the news on tv, I wonder why he did not head back for la Guardia or the other airport that its mentioned in the radio communicat
35 Post contains links Flightwatcher : Here's a bit of play by play from the New York Tracon tape: http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2009...s-flight-1549-transcript-released/
36 StudeDave : Cool heads/hands, they are- excellent job to all involved!!! Say-- anyone got that link where we saw just how close that helo came to being in the wro
37 RL757PVD : Definatley not for LGA TEB, may have had a chance... but even at 50/50.. that 50/50 is life/death, whereas he believed (correctly) that the hudson ha
38 Threepoint : You may have noticed there was a controller change immediately after the last Cactus transmission after it became apparent he was ditching. It could
39 RL757PVD : The Threshold of Runway 24 at TEB is 5 NM away from the GW bridge... Its my understanding thathe was about 1,300 ft above the bridge when he passed o
40 Post contains links SB : Before completely blasting the BA pilot it's important to look at the cultural R/T differenced between the US/Canada and Europe. Over here use of the
41 RussianJet : .....albeit with the considerable luxury of one fully-functioning engine.
42 SPREE34 : ATC continues working traffic. Nothing stops. The emergency aircraft gets priority handling, and the rest of the show continues as well. The controll
43 Post contains links Jkudall : http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/1549/ The audio and transcript are available under the 'Class Bravo Airspace Position Audio' I t
44 Curlyheadboy : Think the BA guy is that one who flew through a cloud of volcano ashes, lost all engines on his 747 and dropped a few thousand feet before being able
45 Wjcandee : NTSB explained this WEEKS ago. The Captain did say "Mayday". It's on the CVR, of which the transcript has not been released (and the tape never will
46 Mir : Big fracking deal. When you say that you lost power to both engines, ATC knows that you're in dire straits. Again, big fracking deal. The captain is
47 CURLYHEADBOY : Yes, of course not the same circumstances, still quite a loss of power, I meant to say the BA pilot was in an emergency before and one involving no e
48 Wjcandee : The transcript of the CAB controller position shows that they quickly figure out the right flight number on the landline between controllers. It's ri
49 Thenoflyzone : I once had 4 Jazz flights airborne around Quebec City, all pilots speaking the same language (as in Quebec, we can provide the service in French as w
50 D L X : I was just looking at the other transcripts posted. (http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/accident_incident/1549/) The ground control transcript is pret
51 Baexecutive : Not exactly the same scenario however something similar was BA38 that landed at LHR last year, the crew managed to get the aircraft down with no seri
52 Threepoint : Providing as few distractions as possible is critical, but your assertion that they may not have had time for a freq change is a bit extreme. They si
53 Srbmod : Since the previous thread on this incident was well over 200 replies, and this thread topic perhaps should have been including within the Part 6 threa
54 SpeedBirdA380 : Poor old Eric Moody. He's getting a good flaming and probably rightfully so! Coming to his defense though back when it actually happened: British Airw
55 Wjcandee : Listening to the unedited tape on NPR, I think the tail of the controller's transmission actually steps on Cactus's mayday. The controller at 07:57 on
56 Wjcandee : Absolutely. Of course, it happens all the time in normal operations as well.
57 Threepoint : The trouble being, there is no such thing as a textbook ditching. We're taught in groundschool the theories regarding calm vs wavy water, but the var
58 Jkudall : That is speculation. When he made that statement he was still intending on returning to LGA. He probably wouldn't call a mayday if he was still inten
59 Post contains links Lhayden : For those of you who may not have seen the commercials, Katie Couric will Interview the entire flight crew on "60 Minutes" on CBS this Sunday (2/8) an
60 Mir : You don't have to be landing off-airport to call a mayday. Which would have left them without time to fiddle with the radios. Sure, they could have s
61 Jamotcx : Sorry SB but even over here in a similar situation I would have probs missed the mayday call! To ATC who know a/c type and from the initial descripti
62 Smolt : I've recalled JAL 123 case of 30 minutes' flight losing its whole control before crash to moutain. Its crew did declare emergency but it was minutes l
63 Wjcandee : Dude...it's ON THE CVR. The NTSB already described this. He says the word "mayday". It's on the CVR. The radio tape didn't pick it up. Either he didn
64 Max777geek : Oh.... pretty gaves the idea about having a pain in the a** That was one hell of a Cactus ! Most likely, he tought, he had time to think to the worst
65 757GB : IMO emergencies are chaotic in nature. Good solid training can go a long way to prepare you, but there will always be some mistakes. No harm was done
66 Starlionblue : Calling "Mayday" would definitely be appropriate. Even if you "only" lose one engine on a twin "Mayday" is appropriate.
67 Post contains links Cumulus : You will find there will be no hard and fast rule if you're thrown into a completely freak scenario such as this, Capt. Sully had to prioritise his a
68 NIKV69 : Wow that idiot Geraldo just before on FOX admitted that the compresson stall didn't have anything to do with this and that the birds were the reason o
69 757GB : Imagine if there had been any victims
70 Starlionblue : I was responding to the people who said there was "no need" for Mayday. I meant that calling Mayday in this case was not wrong. Whether NOT saying it
71 Post contains links D L X : Actually... the NTSB has said that the engines were functioning normally at the time of the shut down (as in, there was no compressor stall, i.e., Ja
72 Flighty : I just want to say that that audio chilled me to the bone.
73 Moose135 : You always want to sound like Chuck Yeager on the radio, rather than Charlie Brown I'm not aware of any studies, but having been through USAF pilot t
74 Post contains links D L X : Now this guy might have some explaining to do. The Area Supervisor at TEB told ops that an Airbus was declaring an emergency and heading his way, and
75 PSA53 : ABC's "Nightline" last night had a presentation on US1549 tapes and also had on the program Al Haynes of UA232, and said Chesley Shullenberger of US15
76 Threepoint : How exactly is this interference of an NTSB investigation? He's merely parroting preliminary results of that investigation, all of which has been exh
77 RussianJet : Mindset? No, probably more to do with the fact that the incidents were totally different and bore no similarity whatsoever other than the fact that l
78 RL757PVD : To anyone who missed it the Katie Couric 60 minutes special for 1549 was pretty good. What is like to know... is who opened the back door? I was in SX
79 Post contains links Wjcandee : Agreed. And the whole thing is available at www.60minutes.com I had previously criticized the USAPA for pulling Sully from the Today Show based on so
80 Post contains links Dragon6172 : http://realhunters.forumwise.com/realhunters-post-100383.html Found this while looking for the CVR transcript, rather humerous I thought.
81 Post contains links Ellehammer : Links to the CBS 60 minutes interview: Part 1: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4784012n Part 2: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4784010n
82 Curlyheadboy : - "Did you pray?" - "I would imagine somebody in back was taking care of that for me while I was flying the airplane." INSTANT CLASSIC!!!!! :D
83 Starlionblue : No time to pray I imagine. To paraphrase SlamClick: "If I ever die flying an airplane I expect to die very very busy."
84 Deltaflyertoo : Okay, is it me, or did the blonde flight attendant in the back (Doreen?) seem just a little in left field compared to the rest. THere were many odditi
85 Peteg913 : Also, to clarify the debate before about "mayday", Sully said in his interview that he did indeed say mayday before stating what happened. This appare
86 MerlinIIIB : Why this speculation about her actions? A person still in post accident stress mode should not be exposed to this kind of statements. Let the NTSB so
87 Threepoint : Why this speculation about her state of mind? How do we know what kind of "post accident stress mode" any of the occupants are in? Let the psychiatri
88 Ellehammer : Ha! - Sorry, your remarks are ridiculous on so many levels. She was being disarmingly honest about the fact that there was a lot of commotion and cha
89 Deltaflyertoo : Ellehammer Whoa, you took my remarks wrong way. Please reread what I wrote, lots of questions....I've read and heard SO MANY different accounts from b
90 Itsjustme : That was my initial thought as well. But you have to remember, she was in the area of the plane that impacted the surface not only first but also the
91 Litz : Last night on Larry King, Capt. Sullenberger specifically pointed this out to King, noting that her experience was different from the other four memb
92 Post contains links J_Hallgren : Did these pix already get posted here? Ifo so, sorry for the dup. It's close-up pix of the lifting of jet from river. http://yawoot.com/post/2499
93 Post contains links D L X : The NTSB has spoken: Canada Geese downed 1549. http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/12/hudson.plane.geese/index.html
94 Post contains links DingDong : The NTSB, about a day or two ago, announced there would be a two day public hearing regarding US 1549 late this spring or early summer: http://ntsb.go
95 CX flyboy : I am not sure if this has been covered or not, as there is too much to look back through. However I have read in a magazine that the ditching button w
96 Mir : She had a much rougher time of things than those in the front. I'd cut her some slack. The ditching button is on the checklist, but it's toward the e
97 Max777geek : Yes&correct. the checklist run time was less than the flight time left. Id say not until there is an obvious neglicence by the flight crew, which thi
98 JFKMan : Wow that is really scary when you think about it....thank God it still all worked out.
99 Max777geek : No, that wasn't God at the side stick, this is easily demonstrate : God has beard, Sully has mustaches only. God is self employed, Sully must wear a
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