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Did GF Ever Operate DXB-AUH?  
User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1685 posts, RR: 11
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Perhaps our resident experts on Persian Gulf aviation will oblige....

A few years ago, I flew an itinerary that I remember small parts of. I was old enough to have a fuctioning memory, but for some reason, there are details I remember and details I don't. And I'd be very willing if someone could help.

In January 2005, I was returning from Dubai to Cairo. I'm 99% it was all Gulf Air because the inbound had been CAI-BAH-DXB, and on arriving in CAI we had used T2 (that's what GF uses).
Anyway, on flying DXB-CAI. I'm pretty sure we flew DXB-AUH because I remember flying a) I remember flying an insanely short sector and b) I remember Abu Dhabi airport, because later I saw pics of it (and visited it) and I thought 'hey! that's familiar'.
At AUH, I assume I boarded a Gulf Air flight bound for CAI.

So-what was my routing? Did I fly GF DXB-CAI which had an intermediete stop at AUH, or did I flew the first leg of DXB-AUH-BAH/BEY/KWI etc. (as an example) or what?

Thanks in advance...I'm sure we all have foggy memories of flights we wish we'd paid more attention to!

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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3153 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
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Yes GF flew DXB-AUH about twice a day until a few years ago. I always wanted to take the dayflight as it was probably very scenic, but I never got around to it.


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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Yes they did. However now Etihad operates a EY-coded bus service instead of air services.

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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1685 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Am I to understand that GF's DXB-AUH-DXB (and vice versa) was actuallly bookable? Would passengers still go through passport control?

User currently offlineTwolz2rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2246 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 3):
Am I to understand that GF's DXB-AUH-DXB (and vice versa) was actuallly bookable?

I'm not sure why, but I remember almost booking the flight when I studied in Dubai the summer of 2005. I think it was about $100 roundtrip DXB-AUH-DXB on Expedia.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2233 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 3):
Am I to understand that GF's DXB-AUH-DXB (and vice versa) was actuallly bookable?

It was not a round trip, the DXB-AUH sectors were part of long multi sector flights.
When GF had B737-200s, and it was the only Gulf carrier, it flew many bus-stop type routes around the Gulf. BAH-DOH-AUH-MCT and return operated every morning and was not unusual.
Even the Tristars operated many short sectors as part of a longer flight.
Like LHR-CDG-BAH-AUH-MCT-BOM was not unusual.
And yes DXB-AUH did happen, but only about once a day. and as part of a longer route.


User currently offlineAirxliban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

didn't gulf air up until recently also fly BAH-DMM? if that was the case that had to have been one of the shortest flights ever.


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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

this flight ended in later summer 2005.
when EY started operations in some European countries sometimes people got their UAE visa on arrival, but only at DXB airport. the smart guys at EY or any other carrier just booked this flight as a connection and the people were allowed to fly. as there is no seperation of domestic and international passenger in AUH as they didnt't have (or still dont have) the facalities to seperate them every flight was (or still is) an international one.


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1685 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2190 times:



Quoting Airxliban (Reply 6):
didn't gulf air up until recently also fly BAH-DMM? if that was the case that had to have been one of the shortest flights ever.

Until now, GF has BAH-DMM-BAH flights flown twice daily, using A320 and sometimes A340 (GF operates DMM-KTM).
But that would have been an international flight (and possibly one of the shortest).
IIRC, Bahrain-Dhahran (before Dammam opened) was a dense city-pair and to this very day millions of people travel per year between the Eastern Province and Bahrain, thanks to the King Fahd Causeway. Prior to the Causeway, Gulf Air used to have very high frequencies, operating a small regional aircraft solely for the route (the a/c type evades me although I came across a picture once).
Currently, the GF BAH-DMM flightime is 40 minutes, the in-air time much less of course. Unfortunately I have never flown the route, although I lived in the KSA Eastern Province. We would always drive over to Bahrain Int'l when we flew GF (travelling on the Causeway to Bahrain was always a novelty  Smile )


User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3477 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2186 times:
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Quoting Airxliban (Reply 6):
didn't gulf air up until recently also fly BAH-DMM? if that was the case that had to have been one of the shortest flights ever

Yes they did.I flew it few times.It used to take to taxi in DMM than the flight itself,about 12 minutes total.Never went over 3000FT.



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2157 times:



Quoting Airxliban (Reply 6):
didn't gulf air up until recently also fly BAH-DMM? if that was the case that had to have been one of the shortest flights ever.

Yes and they sometimes used to deploy A343 on that route as well!



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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2149 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 8):
Prior to the Causeway, Gulf Air used to have very high frequencies, operating a small regional aircraft solely for the route (the a/c type evades me although I came across a picture once).

It was an F27 in the late 70s, then when they were moved down to MCT, a B737-200 took over the route. One aircraft shuttled back and forth all day until the Causeway opened in 1986? and the frequency dropped.


User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2137 times:



Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 9):
Yes they did.I flew it few times.It used to take to taxi in DMM than the flight itself,about 12 minutes total.Never went over 3000FT.

Amazing, surely there was nothing offered with regards to in flight service?



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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2127 times:



Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
Yes they did. However now Etihad operates a EY-coded bus service instead of air services.

Is that bus service even coded? I just thought it was a complimentary, first-come first-serve shuttle operated by EY.



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1685 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2067 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 12):
Amazing, surely there was nothing offered with regards to in flight service?

A few people I know mentioned that juice was served pre-departure. A pack of peanuts would have probably been given out (when I flew DXB-AUH we were served drinks/nuts before takeoff).

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 11):
It was an F27 in the late 70s, then when they were moved down to MCT, a B737-200 took over the route. One aircraft shuttled back and forth all day until the Causeway opened in 1986? and the frequency dropped.

Are you sure the F27 never did BAH-DHA anytime in the 1980s? Or was it all B737+?


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

IIRC EK operated a A330-200 for a short time between DXB and AUH as EK 924/925(?)


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User currently offlineHigherflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2050 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 14):
Are you sure the F27 never did BAH-DHA anytime in the 1980s? Or was it all B737+?

I believe that the F-27's may have been operated in the very early 80's, but there were also 737's on the route at the time (and 737's in the 70's). The causeway really changed the market and the services were cut after 1986.

Gulf Air did a good job on the service on the short sector and as previous posters have stated the flight rarely got above 3000' and airtime was 10-12 minutes between BAH and the old DHA airport.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 14):
Are you sure the F27 never did BAH-DHA anytime in the 1980s? Or was it all B737+?

When I went to BAH in 1976 it was F27. We had four F27. The maint base was BAH, but three stayed in MCT to operate oil charters. Also based at BAH were Skyvans and Islanders, but they operated out of MCT and AUH.(Bateen). At one point, I would guess 1979, all the props were moved to MCT and based there. Then it was decided that it was silly to keep a lone F27 in BAH, and the B732 took over the DHA shuttle.
In 1976-1979 the GF hangar at BAH had a wide collection of based aircraft. Tristar, VC10, BAC111, F27, Skyvans, a lone Skyliner (Skyvan with soundproofing!) Islanders, a Queenair and a Kingair, all in GF livery, and later the B732s. Then by 1980 we only had Tristar and B732, everything else had gone

Edit, just looked in my log book. In July 1981 it was B732 on the shuttle.One afternoon we had a tech problem on A40-BC, and I travelled to DHA and back 4 times with it. Total 8 sectors and average 12 mins flight time each!.

[Edited 2009-02-06 12:05:00]

User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1685 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1893 times:



Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 17):
When I went to BAH in 1976 it was F27. We had four F27. The maint base was BAH, but three stayed in MCT to operate oil charters. Also based at BAH were Skyvans and Islanders, but they operated out of MCT and AUH.(Bateen). At one point, I would guess 1979, all the props were moved to MCT and based there. Then it was decided that it was silly to keep a lone F27 in BAH, and the B732 took over the DHA shuttle.
In 1976-1979 the GF hangar at BAH had a wide collection of based aircraft. Tristar, VC10, BAC111, F27, Skyvans, a lone Skyliner (Skyvan with soundproofing!) Islanders, a Queenair and a Kingair, all in GF livery, and later the B732s. Then by 1980 we only had Tristar and B732, everything else had gone

Edit, just looked in my log book. In July 1981 it was B732 on the shuttle.One afternoon we had a tech problem on A40-BC, and I travelled to DHA and back 4 times with it. Total 8 sectors and average 12 mins flight time each!.

So you're the resident Gulf Air expert eh?  Smile  Smile
Working at GF must have been amazing, considering you lived in the period when the Gulf was starting to open itself up to the world. You should write a book about the history of Gulf Air, since there's precious little documentation about it.
What was GF doing with all those short-range regional aircraft (Skyvan, Skyliners, Queenair etc.)? They were probably used for intra-Gulf operations, no? I assume they came in handy since they gave passengers higher frequencies.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1874 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 18):
What was GF doing with all those short-range regional aircraft (Skyvan, Skyliners, Queenair etc.)? They were probably used for intra-Gulf operations, no? I assume they came in handy since they gave passengers higher frequencies.

They were all involved with the oil industry. They were never open for sale to the public. They operated out of MCT to the Omani desert, and out of AUH to an island in the Gulf. (Das?)

It was interseting working in the BAH hangar, Tristar in the morning and an Islander in the afternoon!


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