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EK Increases Flights To Australia  
User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8380 times:

Emirates has increased Brisbane to double daily and Melbourne to Triple Daily!

Is this a sign that the A 380 will see Melbourne and Brisbane flights soon?


http://www.arabianbusiness.com/54582...s-increases-services-to-down-under

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User currently offlineFridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8294 times:
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Great News! Thanks EK, this will help immensely in planning my trip to MEL this May!  bigthumbsup 

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User currently offlineSydaircargo From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8128 times:

A380 is so far only planned to SYD . EK also plans to get a 3rd daily into SYD by October
bringing back the A340. good for cargo, A380 is actualy a reduction in capacity on the freight side. can´t see the A380 in MEL or BNE in the near future, they might bring the next A380 deliveries into other countries first


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3054 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7931 times:



Quoting Sydaircargo (Reply 2):
can´t see the A380 in MEL

I could very well see it in MEL. EK do now use, along with QF the A380 ready gates for the most part, and they have a lounge in the expanded area looking over the A380 gates. I don't think it will take too long for it to arrive in MEL.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineBen175 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7796 times:

EK have expressed interest in sending the A380 to all four major Australian ports (SYD, MEL, BNE & PER) if i remember correctly.

User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

Rumor has it that MEL will get the A380 first in the relative near future, followed by BNE and PER at some point in the coming years.


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User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7586 times:



Quoting CXfirst (Reply 3):
I could very well see it in MEL. EK do now use, along with QF the A380 ready gates for the most part, and they have a lounge in the expanded area looking over the A380 gates. I don't think it will take too long for it to arrive in MEL.

At the moment EK primarily uses these gates as they allow dual aero-bridge access thus for the a340's there is only F pax going into the F cabin thus less chance of people damaging the fragile doors on the suites.

However I have herd that the A380 will be coming to Melbourne late this year or early next year. Cant imagine it will be to far away source is very reliable too!


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7205 times:
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I'm still amazed that Austrailia opened the bilateral to Dubai (EK) as much as they did!

Next we'll see Germany increasing EK's rights.  faint  (Note: I'm joking.) I would be shocked if EK was allowed to fly to STG or one of the Berlin airports, much less 3X daily to FRA or MUC. I personally believe if EK were allowed 3X daily to FRA, MUC, STG, and TXL it would make their 3rd wave a enviable success.

Quoting Sydaircargo (Reply 2):
A380 is so far only planned to SYD . EK also plans to get a 3rd daily into SYD by October

SYD makes sense for the launch route. I would expect to see 2X daily A380's to SYD (with a 3rd flight on a smaller airframe) before we see 1X daily to MEL.

Quoting EK156 (Thread starter):
Emirates has increased Brisbane to double daily and Melbourne to Triple Daily!

This is a surprise to me. Was EK required to bring all of the other cities up to 3X daily prior to SYD going 3X? Please note I'm asking, I do not have the new bilateral memorized.  spit 

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1668 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6616 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 7):
Next we'll see Germany increasing EK's rights. (Note: I'm joking.) I would be shocked if EK was allowed to fly to STG or one of the Berlin airports, much less 3X daily to FRA or MUC. I personally believe if EK were allowed 3X daily to FRA, MUC, STG, and TXL it would make their 3rd wave a enviable success.

It would be a big thing if the current German-UAE bilateral was amended since there are tons of ports they could serve. I suppose FRA will eventually see the A380, but it's more to do with capacity spread over various banks than sending one big A380 once/twice a day.
My suspicision is that if the bilateral was one day amended, Etihad would take advantage of it which could hurt EK.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6342 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 7):
Next we'll see Germany increasing EK's rights. faint (Note: I'm joking.) I would be shocked if EK was allowed to fly to STG or one of the Berlin airports, much less 3X daily to FRA or MUC. I personally believe if EK were allowed 3X daily to FRA, MUC, STG, and TXL it would make their 3rd wave a enviable success.

EK has to sent those 58 Big Beasts on order somewhere... Wink

-took this photo last week.  yes 



That B772L between the A380 looks rather puny.. duck 

Personally, I'll take one of of these GE90-115B's instead.. biggrin 






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User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6216 times:

I could see EK putting the A380 to MEL. I guess they will see how their 2 daily non-stop 345 flights (plus the daily 773 via SIN) are filling up.

Would not surprise me to see this monster added by early next year.

Check out this poignant letter from Tim Clark appealing to the Canadian public to give EK more access to Canada. Not really related to this post, but just goes to show you how EK goes for the gold.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...009/02/04/open-canada-s-skies.aspx


User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5918 times:



Quoting Sydaircargo (Reply 2):
A380 is so far only planned to SYD

EK A380 has already been to SYD as of Wednesday night i think. I drove past SYD after i finished work and the beast in all it's beauty was there.  drool 



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User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5426 times:
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I think MEL will se EK A380 either late this year or early 2010. They will be getting a few more A380s this year.

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4932 times:
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Quoting Directorguy (Reply 8):
My suspicision is that if the bilateral was one day amended, Etihad would take advantage of it which could hurt EK.

I wonder. Germany became a bit concerned with EK's growth. If the bilateral is amended, it wouldn't surprise me if EY received most of the benefit on the UAE side.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
That B772L between the A380 looks rather puny..

Nice photo! I really like how the shot emphasizes the scale.

Off topic, but when does EK's next concourse (#3) open for the new terminal 3? Wikipedia has 2012!  wideeyed  Is that still the schedule?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4787 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 13):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
That B772L between the A380 looks rather puny..

Nice photo! I really like how the shot emphasizes the scale.

Thanks mate... Smile

During the past few weeks, I've seen a number of A380's..in fact, last Saturday, when transferring from T-3 to T-5 @LHR, the bus drove right past SQ's A380....that plane is BIG!

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 13):
Off topic, but when does EK's next concourse (#3) open for the new terminal 3? Wikipedia has 2012!  wideeyed  Is that still the schedule?

..bloody 'ell...I didn't even know there is another concourse for Terminal-3 being built....Terminal-3 is huge as it is....!



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User currently offlineDJ748 From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4471 times:



Quoting Ben175 (Reply 4):
EK have expressed interest in sending the A380 to all four major Australian ports (SYD, MEL, BNE & PER) if i remember correctly.

I know BNE is definitely confirmed as an A380 destination, likely seeing it from next year, although I'm unsure about it. I have an old issue of Airports of the World floating around at home from a few years back and it has an article about the airport here at BNE, which indicated that EK would be flying their A380's in as of last year. But that was before all the delays to the A380 programme started being announced. I've got my fingers crossed for 2010. I'm looking forward to it as the EK flights into BNE (both direct and the flight via SIN) fly over home 15 minutes before they arrive at the gate.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2862 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Emirates sure does offer a lot of flights to Australia. Clearly it must be a popular well-known airline to the many Aussies that support its flights to Dubai, Bangkok, Singapore, AND New Zealand..
Any chance of Emirates entering new markets? Clearly the Emirates brand is a revered one. Adelaide, Gold Coast, and even Cairns come to mind as potential future cities, perhaps operated via SIN. What do you guys think?



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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4063 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 16):
Emirates sure does offer a lot of flights to Australia. Clearly it must be a popular well-known airline to the many Aussies that support its flights to Dubai, Bangkok, Singapore, AND New Zealand..

What you have to understand about Australians is that they are the worlds largest travelers and traveling for them means very long haul: Oz- Europe; Oz-USA as well as Asia Pac. Hence, the real traffic for EK, SQ, MH, TG, EY, etc, etc, to Oz is Oz-Europe traffic. All these players use their Asian and M.E hubs to connect all the Australian cities with the major Eruopean ones. They here have an advantage over QF and BA



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User currently offlineDJMEL From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Great to see EK increase there services to OZ, I remember when they first flew to MEL on their inaugural flight on the 25th June 1996, the first airline to bring the 777 into Australia.......was invited on a Demo Flight btw MEL/SYD, it was first experience of a PTV in Economy it was fabulous a great revolution in entertainment for the Economy traveller........Eddie Lim Area Manager previous to Stephen Pearse would be very proud of the forward thinking management team and how they have grown Australia into a Major calling point for EK.......AKL/LAX is the last link in the network to make EK the third airline to operate an around the World Service today after the Singapore Girl and our Kiwi Friends Air New Zealand - (N.B Virgin willl offer an Around the World Service from 27 February - (VS LHR/JFK, VX JFK/LAX, VA LAX/SYD, VS SYD/HKG/LHR - All not a same product aircraft as can done on the other carriers).

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3845 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
..bloody 'ell...I didn't even know there is another concourse for Terminal-3 being built....Terminal-3 is huge as it is....!

 rotfl 

Concourse #3 is supposed to be smaller than Concourse #2, just with more A380 gates!  wideeyed  However, I've read different information at different sources. 27 gates w/20 A380 gates or 20 gates total..

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 16):
Any chance of Emirates entering new markets?

They're always expanding.  Wink

I'm obsessed with the viability of the gold coast from a passenger standpoint. I'm just not sure where EK would fly from it. They just expanded (in 2007) the runway to 2500m. That isn't enough length for hot day takeoffs OOL-DXB. So EK would have to stop in SIN (as SurfandSnow already noted) or BKK. But do they have the rights for another SIN 5th freedom flight per day? This is one airport I never expect to see A380's at!  Wink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Coast_Airport
Note: The quick description of the airport has the old runway length. The in the text the artilcle talks about the extension.

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 17):
All these players use their Asian and M.E hubs to connect all the Australian cities with the major Eruopean ones.

Do not forget the African mining cities either. Ok, there are opportunities for better flights to Southern Africa, but EK has a good network for the OZ-North Africa connections. But I do share your opinion that most of the traffic is going to Europe.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3488 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 13):
Germany became a bit concerned with EK's growth. If the bilateral is amended, it wouldn't surprise me if EY received most of the benefit on the UAE side.

Are you saying their bilateral amendment might specify that only new or minority campanies could take advantage of new frequencies? in this case, to eliminate EK


Rgds,


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Would anyone know what QF plans are for DXB. Usually when countries sign bi-laterals they tend to want to equal the playing field for their home carriers so that no one is put at a disadvantage. I'm having a hard time understanding why there has been so little reaction from QF. Is the market so large and profitable that EK will use an A380 on all of their frequencies? The Trans-Tasmin is another market that EK has a substantial presence. I can't help but think that it may be good for consumers but bad in the long term for the viability of QF and NZ on the Trans-Tasmin,then again WTF do I know.

User currently offlineHuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Are there any plans on the horizon to fly to MEL direct, or are they still going to be routed via SIN?


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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3415 times:



Quoting Huaiwei (Reply 22):
Are there any plans on the horizon to fly to MEL direct, or are they still going to be routed via SIN?

They have been doing them regularly since mid 2004!

"Emirates launches Melbourne-Dubai non-stops

Emirates launched non-stop flights between Melbourne and Dubai today using the ultra-long-range A340-500 aircraft.

From Melbourne, the three times weekly service will continue on to Christchurch – a new destination for Emirates.

Emirates executive vice president of commercial operations Ghaith al Ghaith, in Melbourne for the launch of the flights, said the non-stop service would move to six times weekly from August 16.

The new service, which will run in addition to the airline’s daily service via Singapore, will boost capacity between Melbourne and Dubai by 1,548 seats.

The Melbourne-Dubai direct flight takes 14 hours.

By April 2005, Emirates will offer 41 flights a week between Australia and Dubai.

1 July 2004"

http://www.travelweekly.com.au/articles/c7/0c021cc7.asp



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User currently offlineAlianza From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Under the UAE-Australia bilateral, are there 5th freedom frequencies available for EK or EY? for example, to open new routes out of the region.



Rgds,


25 Jacobin777 : I know the UAE and Mexico have "Open Skies" agreements.
26 Smi0006 : The problem for QF is that the actual market between Australia and the UAE is not very large at all, most of the EK traffic is transiting through mai
27 NZ107 : If it stays as it is, QF and NZ will continue to have a major presence on the Trans Tasman flights. EK's sole daily flights in and out of AKL to MEL,
28 Huaiwei : My apologies...for I mistook MEL for BNE!
29 Smi0006 : No need for aploogies all good!
30 Vhqpa : BNE is now also nonstop from DXB since the start of the month to BNE EK currently fly a 345 on the DXB-BNE-AKL flights replacing the 77W on the DXB-S
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