IndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6557 times:
Hopefully the people on the DEN-YOW route won't whine as much as the people on the DEN-YYZ route do. I didn't decide not to put PTV's on..don't b!tch at me about it! But I LOVE YOW, the people are nice, the city is beautiful!
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2754 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6522 times:
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4716 posts, RR: 15 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6491 times:
It is good to see UA doing some expanding; there continue to be some signs of optimism from US air cx. (Let's just hope the oil prices don't repeat last year!)
Maybe UA isn't done yet... it's still early February.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22021 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6398 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 4): Maybe UA isn't done yet... it's still early February.
I believe we will indeed see further changes as advance schedules get massaged including potential new international flying which needs to be decided on very soon.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21448 posts, RR: 24 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6159 times:
Quoting IndyWA (Reply 1): Hopefully the people on the DEN-YOW route won't whine as much as the people on the DEN-YYZ route do. I didn't decide not to put PTV's on..don't b!tch at me about it!
If you want PTVs, fly AC (UA codeshare) connections DEN-YOW via either YYZ or YUL. I think AC DEN-YYZ and DEN-YUL flights are both A319.
Jamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 764 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6123 times:
I've been expecting UA to add YOW for awhile now. I don't think the O&D is too high between the two markets, but the YOW-LAX and YOW-SFO markets are quite large and would both be well served via DEN.
Doug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3158 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6071 times:
It's a bout time they started GEG-SFO, I was always kind of baffled why they didn't fly that one.
IndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6035 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6):
If you want PTVs, fly AC (UA codeshare) connections DEN-YOW via either YYZ or YUL. I think AC DEN-YYZ and DEN-YUL flights are both A319.
Exactly! And when they see that UA doesn't have them, they complain to us...like we can do anything about that.
Dia77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 700 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6003 times:
I'm happy about DEN-YOW. I think it will do great, but to echo Mariner's comments, I would have preferred F9 starting the route. Although, it seems that UA and AC fare better in the DEN-Canada markets than F9.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4716 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5947 times:
I wonder if there's any chance that UA could do something in the SAN-HNL market again this summer? (Heck, I'd even settle for the weird Saturday-only service they ran for the last couple of years -- on and off.)
I suppose the Hawaii market is still pretty depressed this year so I'm not going to hold my breath...
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4877 times:
Are you implying additional transborder flying - United's recent expansion into Canada seems to be a slam dunk success (just a few years ago the airline only served YVR, YYC and YYZ) - or perhaps some long-haul routes? Any news on the SFO-CAN service? If NW's daily NRT-CAN 757 service failed, could this route really have any potential?
I see LAX-TUL is making a return. Could we see LAX-AUS, LAX-DSM, or LAX-ICT come back as well?
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
Bahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1727 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4816 times:
LAXIntl,
I keep hearing more expanded flying out of LAX for UA mainly on the Explus side. Did you hear something along those lines?
JAXFLL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4350 times:
Which United Express company will be flying LAX-TUL? I know AA flew that route for maintenance flexibility, but why does UA fly it? What business is supporting that flight?
Bahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1727 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4331 times:
Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 14): Which United Express company will be flying LAX-TUL? I know AA flew that route for maintenance flexibility, but why does UA fly it? What business is supporting that flight?
In the past it was SkyWest and i think they are going to get OO again.. As far as why UA is flying, you may not know but UAL has a hub in LAX.
Phllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 396 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4227 times:
Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 14): Which United Express company will be flying LAX-TUL? I know AA flew that route for maintenance flexibility, but why does UA fly it? What business is supporting that flight?
I believe OO (SkyWest) has an exclusive contract for United Express flying on the West Coast. Unfortunately, these long thin routes like LAX-TUL see the CR7 instead of the E70.
CIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1990 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3878 times:
I personally would like to see UA expand some flying out of the IAD hub, especially to some of their midwest markets (i.e. OMA, DSM, CID, MLI, etc). Would allow some bypassing of the busy ORD hub, not to mention some built in O/D to the DC area with a nonstop flight.
KGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3774 times:
Who saw this coming? Nevertheless, in theory it could work.
When AC was running YOW-SJC, ostensibly to connect two top high-tech centers, some who rode that flight expected to connect to other cities in the western states--plus Hawaii. Those connections existed at SFO but not at SJC, and SJC-SFO transfers at the time were a bit awkward.
YOW-DEN allows connections to ABQ, PHX, SAN, SNA, TUS -- nice places where the weather is moderate in the winter (compared to Ottawa) -- plus LAX, SEA, SFO and SJC for business. Then with the right timing, there is DEN's 763 to HNL for those who really want that.
KGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3639 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3686 times:
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 17): I personally would like to see UA expand some flying out of the IAD hub,
Perhaps using some of their ETOPS-certified 757s.
BSB-IAD with a tag-on to YOW could work with a weight-restricted plane. Or perhaps a 757 to LIS with a tag-on to FAO. Maybe a follow-up to BD's leased IAD-MAN 757.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22021 posts, RR: 51 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3526 times:
Quoting Dia77 (Reply 10): Although, it seems that UA and AC fare better in the DEN-Canada markets than F9.
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 12): United's recent expansion into Canada seems to be a slam dunk success
Yes and it certainly helps that UA-AC are the respective home carriers in the cities covered and things like MIleagePlus and Aeroplan further aid in keeping people loyal.
One way or the other, United must pull the trigger on CAN very soon.
Their DOT route deferral was for one year and July is fast approaching if they plan on marketing the route. In the long run, I have no doubt it would be succesfull as the Pearl River Delta and cities of Guangzhou & Shenzhen are becoming China's prime manfuacturing and economic center after Shanghai. Its just a matter of how long UA is willing to nurse the route in today's economy.
Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 14): Which United Express company will be flying LAX-TUL?
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Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 14): but why does UA fly it? What business is supporting that flight?
Quoting Bahadir (Reply 13): I keep hearing more expanded flying out of LAX for UA mainly on the Explus side. Did you hear something along those lines?
Have not heard anything firm, but would not surprise me to see frequency build up, and resumption of previous markets. UA is after all getting additional 70 seaters this year.
Quoting Phllax (Reply 16): I believe OO (SkyWest) has an exclusive contract for United Express flying on the West Coast.
No such thing.
What United does have, and might be called are 'spheres of operations'. Basically it keep things easier and less costly to segregate operators to their own regions instead of them all having to set up their infrastructure and staff across the entire nation.
Quoting Phllax (Reply 16): Unfortunately, these long thin routes like LAX-TUL see the CR7 instead of the E70.
Unfortunately? the 66 seat ExPlus CR7 is everyway as comparable for the E70 in my book.
The CR7 is very different from is predecessor CRJ in cabin comfort.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Pilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3081 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 20): What United does have, and might be called are 'spheres of operations'. Basically it keep things easier and less costly to segregate operators to their own regions instead of them all having to set up their infrastructure and staff across the entire nation.
Hmm, they don't seem to follow that outside of DEN. Take a look at IAD or ORD sometime.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22021 posts, RR: 51 Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3446 times:
Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 21): Hmm, they don't seem to follow that outside of DEN. Take a look at IAD or ORD sometime.
Sure they do. Does a UAX carriers at IAD operate at SFO for instance?
United keeps UAX partners limited in geographic regions and respective hubs.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3358 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 22): Sure they do. Does a UAX carriers at IAD operate at SFO for instance?
No but for fairness sake OO is everywhere except IAD but of course they are UAs largest Express partner.
Skywest at SFO, LAX, DEN & ORD (PDX and SEA as well)
Durangomac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 14): Which United Express company will be flying LAX-TUL? I know AA flew that route for maintenance flexibility, but why does UA fly it? What business is supporting that flight?
Maybe it's a way to transfer an aircraft from the LAX system to the ORD system.
25 Goldenshield: It's one of many ways. However, the general flow is that an aircraft will center on one hub or another as it needs MX. One day, it may be centered on
26 Olympic472: ORD-MUC upgauge to the 777 SUCKS! Especially when UA just upgraded all their 763s on ORD-MUC with the new First and Business seats. With this switch t
27 Dfanucci: Wow, GEG-SFO returns. I remember when they cut that flight 8 years ago. There was some very negative United press up here. Glad to see it return. -D
28 FL787: I have a United question. I see they switched ORD-PVG to a 772. Where did the 772 come from and where did the 744 go? I can't figure it out.
29 LAXintl: Last fall there were several international route changes. LAX-HKG, LAX-FRA, SFO-NGO, SFO-TPE, DEN-LHR got dropped, while some 744s got parked, and air
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