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Delta Ending Lawton, OK Service  
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4460 times:

I think the only surprise is that they lasted as long as they did. Service ends April 1.

http://newsok.com/delta-to-withdraw-...rvices-from-lawton/article/3343424

The majority of the traffic at Lawton is military-related, and the article says that American Eagle won the majority of the military contracts at the airport, leading to Delta's pull out.


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User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4337 times:

Is AA/MQ going to be adding more flights and/or bigger aircraft after April 1? It's is a bummer for Lawton, my hometown. But this service also started right when the economy went down.


"Things change, friends leave, life doesn't stop for anybody." -- EAT'EM UP EAT'EM UP KSU!!
User currently offlineExaauadl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4146 times:

Perhaps DL will fly MEM-LAW one day

User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2865 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

The traffic at the airport is 75-80% military?  eyepopping 
Considering American Eagle won most of the contracts, it really doesn't come as a surprise that DL is cutting this service...
However, are any other markets slated to lose DL/NW service?



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23011 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3811 times:



Quoting Exaauadl (Reply 2):
Perhaps DL will fly MEM-LAW one day

 checkmark MEM-LAW would certainly enjoy lower costs than ATL-LAW because it's shorter. The question is whether MEM has enough connections to the cities with many military passengers, and without some data about where those LAW passengers are going, it's tough to answer that question.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Being stuck here in Lawton I've been following this news since it broke a little while ago. Honestly, its far cheaper to drive an hour and a half up to OKC and fly out of there (when I need to get back to PHL or IAD/DCA) so I can see why it would very easily be a lean one-carrier market. Most of my co-workers use OKC for this same reason. The city apparently subsidized DL's service to entice them to come here but with the downturn in the economy they apparently can't afford it any longer (at least that's what the paper has been saying).


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4057 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3481 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
Quoting Exaauadl (Reply 2):
Perhaps DL will fly MEM-LAW one day

MEM-LAW would certainly enjoy lower costs than ATL-LAW because it's shorter. The question is whether MEM has enough connections to the cities with many military passengers, and without some data about where those LAW passengers are going, it's tough to answer that question.

DL lost a great deal of market share in this part of the country when the DFW hub closed in early 2005. With CO going to a rival alliance later this year, if they are to regain a foothold in Oklahoma and Texas to any degree, they will need to consider MEM, CVG or even SLC service for places such as Lawton. If the single dominance of AA/MQ drives fares through the roof, then they invite this sort of competition to return.



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

This was a SCASD grant route. Not really shocking since the money has ran out.

User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2865 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3434 times:



Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 7):
This was a SCASD grant route

Yet another great experiment in finding out the quickest way to burn through our country's taxpayer dollars....



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3381 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 6):
DL lost a great deal of market share in this part of the country when the DFW hub closed in early 2005.

And that's why we've also seen a complete loss of ALL DL mainline into Oklahoma. I remember when OKC-SLC was done on 737-800's...now ALL CR2's. OKC-ATL? Mixture of 732's, 738's, M88's and 722's. Now...ALL CR2's. AA, meanwhile, used to have a mix of M80's to compliment the 4-5 E145's and CR7's from here to DFW...now it's all mainline.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23011 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3307 times:



Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 6):
With CO going to a rival alliance later this year, if they are to regain a foothold in Oklahoma and Texas to any degree, they will need to consider MEM, CVG or even SLC service for places such as Lawton.

Given the recent announcements of MEM-LBB and MEM-MFE, I think MEM is their choice.



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User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

I grew up in Lawton also. I can remember 14 flights a day to DFW. However, once DL pulled out, AE got all the military fares, which as pointed out, is the majority. AE also has more frequency than DL, and the problem for DL going MEM -- LAW is the connections at MEM simply aren't as great at at ATL.XXXXXXXX

But, I do agree, CO could move into LAW in a big way. If DL doesn't want to lose all of TXXXXXexas and OKXXXXXXXXXXXX, then they need to make a move.



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

Sad to see Lawton back to just AA/MQ. DL started their ATL service right after I moved away. Is AA going to be adding more flights since DL is bailing, or is the DL capacity just not needed? If DL was going to start service to MEM, I bet they would have stated that already.


"Things change, friends leave, life doesn't stop for anybody." -- EAT'EM UP EAT'EM UP KSU!!
User currently offlineDavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

I doubt AA will add service. I think DL was just going for the contracts to Europe. But -- at least at one time -- the military official travel service was using SABRE as the computer server, so AA tended to be the default airline more often than not (at least in my experience).

I agree -- if MEM -- LAW were going to have happened, we'd see a switch not a withdrawl of service.



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7606 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Are civilians allowed on these American Eagle flights?.

User currently offlineMOBflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1209 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3001 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 8):
Yet another great experiment in finding out the quickest way to burn through our country's taxpayer dollars....

Some SCASD awards have worked in improving the long-term viability of air service in some markets.

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 14):
Are civilians allowed on these American Eagle flights?.

Yes, but it is understood that the military is the reason for MQ's presence.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2977 times:



Quoting Davescj (Reply 11):
and the problem for DL going MEM -- LAW is the connections at MEM simply aren't as great at at ATL.XXXXXXXX

If you can't make ATL work, I really find it hard that MEM will work. Ticket cost aside of course. If it goes through MEM, perhaps a Saab route??



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23011 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2908 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 16):
If it goes through MEM, perhaps a Saab route??

At 481 miles, it's probably too long for an SF3.



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2841 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 17):
At 481 miles, it's probably too long for an SF3.

Thank you. I wasn't real sure as to the mileage on that pair.



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
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