NWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4859 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8490 times:
That's a C-124 Globemaster II
EDIT: DARN YOU, BOING4EVER!!!
[Edited 2009-02-08 07:08:41]
Flying an aeroplane with only a single propeller to keep you in the air. Can you imagine that? -Capt. Picard
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9203 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8436 times:
Yep, that's Ol' Shakey....the C-124..........10,000 bolts flying in loose formation!
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
Readytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 8384 times:
Many thanks people.
you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9203 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8228 times:
If I might, I'd like to relate a personal experience with the C-124.
In 1968, I was stationed at Shemya AFT, AK (SYA), almost at the end of the Aleutian Island chain. I was doing air cargo work in the Air Force.
One day, we had a crated, diesel generator engine block that had to go back to ANC. It weighed 15,000 pounds and our only choice was our weekly flight back to Elmendorf.
We did have a problem, tho. It would have fit, size wise, on the belly elevator, BUT the only forklift that would lift it had a boom that was too tall to drive under the a/c.
Our Lieutenant came up with a brilliant idea or so it seemed at the time. With the nose ramps in place, we set the crate directly in front of the a/c. We put straps around the crate and then attached a cable to the straps and ran the cable up inside the a/c to a snatch block and back out to a tow tractor. With the tractor pulling, the crate went up the ramps pretty smoothly, but when it got up to where the floor was level, it was still pointed at the angle that the ramps were. Then, gravity took over and it slammed down into the a/c. Luckily, we had put the tail stand in place and the plane didn't set down onto the tail but it would have.
I think we were very lucky, that day but we did get the job done.
KPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8074 times:
I grew up in Las Vegas and had seen that plane often enough. From what my dad told me that particular C-124 was brought there by a investor in the early 80s. Right behind the Tropicana hotel and near the executive terminal of LAS, an investor purchased a parcel of land and stuck this plane onto it. He had installed a staircase and double doors in the side of the plane and made plans to convert it to a restaurant and lounge. The restaurant never took off (pun intentional) and it was finally destroyed in 2001 after nearly 20 years of existence. I think that now part of the Hooters Casino & Hotel has taken over this parcel of land.
EBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7944 times:
Quoting KPHXFlyer (Reply 6): I grew up in Las Vegas and had seen that plane often enough. From what my dad told me that particular C-124 was brought there by a investor in the early 80s. Right behind the Tropicana hotel and near the executive terminal of LAS, an investor purchased a parcel of land and stuck this plane onto it. He had installed a staircase and double doors in the side of the plane and made plans to convert it to a restaurant and lounge. The restaurant never took off (pun intentional) and it was finally destroyed in 2001 after nearly 20 years of existence. I think that now part of the Hooters Casino & Hotel has taken over this parcel of land.
When you say it was destroyed I presume you mean it was scrapped?
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7880 times:
Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 2): EDIT: DARN YOU, BOING4EVER!!!
What can I say? I guess I'm just quicker on the draw.
It's Boeing4ever, btw...with an "e".
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 7): When you say it was destroyed I presume you mean it was scrapped?
According to the wikipedia article (grain of salt), there was some eminant domain issue going on with the land on which the plane sat. The City of Las Vegas apparently wanted the land for a highway bypass.
KPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7823 times:
Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 7):
When you say it was destroyed I presume you mean it was scrapped?
Yes, scrapped.
Although with the way they were blowing up the old casino/hotels in Las Vegas the last several years, I wouldn't bet against explosive demolition either
TW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 477 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4213 times:
I think in the mid 90ies there was a car dealer at this place. I have somewhere photos of the plane with used cars surrounding it. Was the first and last time I went to Vegas.
KPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2452 times:
Quoting TW741 (Reply 10): I think in the mid 90ies there was a car dealer at this place.
I think you're right about that...but I want to say it was a weekend deal...if you google earth the intersection of reno ave & koval lane, you'll find that land is still vacant. It's in a pretty crappy spot for drive-by traffic so I don't think a car dealer would have lasted there long.
Rwy04LGA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2156 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2170 times:
Vegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 8): The City of Las Vegas apparently wanted the land for a highway bypass.
No offense to you, but if that is what Wiki said, that is funny, there are no highways near where this aircraft was. Knowing Clark County, as the parcel in question is not located in the City of Las Vegas, it most likely was a DOA issue, they have been buying and selling land around the airport for years, all in the name of "noise control". Lets just say the CCDOA has been involved in many interesting real estate transactions over the last 20 years.
However, in this case the property is still owned by a private party, PLANE REALTY L L C.
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1827 times:
Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 16): No offense to you, but if that is what Wiki said, that is funny, there are no highways near where this aircraft was. Knowing Clark County, as the parcel in question is not located in the City of Las Vegas, it most likely was a DOA issue, they have been buying and selling land around the airport for years, all in the name of "noise control". Lets just say the CCDOA has been involved in many interesting real estate transactions over the last 20 years.
However, in this case the property is still owned by a private party, PLANE REALTY L L C.
Well thanks for clearing that up. It is what wiki said, hence my "grain of salt" comment.
Wikipedia is a good place to START looking for information.
Jetjeanes From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1789 times:
from what i recal it was one of the first double deckers.. Now were going back some time
here but i recall the half the floor folded down one side and the other half folded down the other and could be setup fo a 2nd floor, I dont remember any in commercial operations
in fact the last time saw a few were sitting over in the back at yip. These things took off low and slow....
KPHXFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 413 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 16): Was the restaurant ever open? I recall the restaurant looking operational, however I don't remember the place ever being open.
I'm pretty sure it was never opened. They never improved the area around it (for parking or sidewalks).
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9203 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1612 times:
Quoting Jetjeanes (Reply 18): from what i recal it was one of the first double deckers.. Now were going back some time
here but i recall the half the floor folded down one side and the other half folded down the other and could be setup fo a 2nd floor, I dont remember any in commercial operations
in fact the last time saw a few were sitting over in the back at yip. These things took off low and slow....
Never saw them used this way, but I imagine they were. They were about the first Air Force cargo plane that could take oversized cargo. They also had an overhead winch and an elevator in the belly (sort of)..........the platform was raised by cables on each corner and when it was brought up, it effectively closed the opening in the belly. Of course, there was also the clamshell doors in front and the huge nose ramps for rolling stock. Never seen one in commercial use (wonder why?) but they were used by the Air Force into the 70's.
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Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 26 Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1435 times:
I think Pima at Tucson has one.
If you like airplanes of all shapes and sizes, visit Pima Muesum just south of Tucson, AZ
Lots to look at and tours availabel to the bone yard.
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