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USA To Allow Syria Repair Of It's Two 747-SP's  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13032 times:

The USA have given green light to export spare-parts required to repair two elderly 747-SP aircraft unable to fly within the Syrianair network.
The flights of one of the two aircraft -spradically-have been handicapped by frequent delays due to technicals.
Although not very economical aircraft,it would be great to see both birds fly the flag for Syrianair again. It was news to me though, that Syria was prevented from importing spares for their aircraft..

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...ALeqM5ilSSn0pr2K9WwzUYZbFrFjJddx_Q


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User currently offlineDUALRATED From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1001 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13006 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
It was news to me though, that Syria was prevented from importing spares for their aircraft..

It shouldn't, their situation is just like Iran's.



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12961 times:

Just like what's happened in Cuba, embargo's don't work for the most part unless its a compete coordinated effort.

As a matter of "good will" and maybe "break the ice", the U.S. should allow certain items such as planes amongst other "non dangerous/disruptive" technologies be sold.



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User currently offlineL1011buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12961 times:

Who knows, maybe one small step at a time, will lead to daily JFK-DAM flights! thanks for the post Beaucaire! I met a Syrian person one time, and he viewed Bush as a terrorist. I didn't argue since he was giving me and some friends a ride! But is that how many Syrians viewed Bush and the US?

User currently offlineArabAirX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12919 times:

I wonder if all the conciliatory tones toward Iran result in a similar deal?

User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3971 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12816 times:

Do they only have two?
I saw them both parked together at ARN last year!
The first one taxied into the jetty (not their fault, the dispatcher put B742 on the guidance system iso B747SP ).
The second came to collect the pax.


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3001 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12768 times:

Great to hear SyrianAir are trying to repair their 747SP's and see this rare aircraft stay in the skies...

Im surprised even the US though has many spare parts for this rare aircraft, cinsidering how few are actually flying.

I wonder if SyrianAir will consider replacing these in due course with the likes of an IL-96's or A330/340 or 350's?


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12483 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 7):
I wonder if SyrianAir will consider replacing these in due course with the likes of an IL-96's or A330/340 or 350's?

Maybe they can pick up a few A340-500's, for a very very cheap price, now when most airlines are doing all they can to get rid of them.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30437 posts, RR: 84
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12430 times:
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Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 7):
I wonder if SyrianAir will consider replacing these in due course with the likes of an IL-96's or A330/340 or 350's?

They wanted to buy new Airbus planes, but because those planes use US-sourced components, the US embargo prevented the deal from going through.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11607 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11443 times:



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 7):
I wonder if SyrianAir will consider replacing these in due course with the likes of an IL-96's or A330/340 or 350's?

They had an order for an Il-96-300 and two Il-96-400s, but I believe it's now canceled/void. There was also a large recent order/mou for 50 new Airbusses, including A330s. Whether this will be allowed though, I'm not sure.


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User currently offlineBa6590 From UK - England, joined Jul 2007, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10991 times:

There is an article about this on syria-news.com (sorry only in Arabic). They also mention that Syria had signed an MOU for 14 airbus aircraft to be delivered between 2010 and 2018, and a further 36 between 2018 and 2028, they go on to mention that it was signed a while back but delayed because of US sanctions...whats interesting is that they note that while the embargo involving planes has been lifted, there is still an embargo on engines...so they still have some negotiating to do.

Anyways great news overall, i loved flying those SPs and would love to get another chance before they are retired.

And with regards of what has been said about the way Syrians view Americans...I believe most people dont agree with a lot of the US foreign policies (not saying it is my view), which is what you would probably expect in the light of the Arab-Isreali conflict and the war in Iraq...but i would say there is no true animosity towards US or western people in general...on the contrary they are quite welcome, hope that clears things up a bit.



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10796 times:



Quoting Ba6590 (Reply 11):
There is an article about this on syria-news.com (sorry only in Arabic). They also mention that Syria had signed an MOU for 14 airbus aircraft to be delivered between 2010 and 2018, and a further 36 between 2018 and 2028, they go on to mention that it was signed a while back but delayed because of US sanctions...whats interesting is that they note that while the embargo involving planes has been lifted, there is still an embargo on engines...so they still have some negotiating to do.

Maybe if Amrika lifts the embargo Syria can order some B787's and B777's instead.. stirthepot ...after all, Boeing is losing some B787 orders.. duck 



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User currently onlineAirxliban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 8447 times:

Gosh I hope they get them back into service and reintroduce them on the DXB-DAM route. That would ensure that I visit Syria soon!


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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8048 times:

http://joshualandis.com/blog/

This blog gives a great overview of Syria's actual economic problems.
The blog-writer is an expert on Syria but lives in the USA.Infrastructure projects to lift Syria's needed hotel,road and airport renovation are estimated at about 50billion $..
Good thing is that the anticipated flow of visitors will grow substantially once the political shift has been endorsed and implemented. The fleet of Syrianair was supposed to grow substantially but due to mentioned restrictions imposed by the previous Washington administration that has been halted.
It should be noted that Syria should simplify the delivery of visitors visas and deliver them at the airport-just a suggestion..and copy many neighbouring countries llike Lebanon and the Emirates.



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7186 times:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/02...orld/worldwatch/entry4783640.shtml

a report speaking about the new deal between Washington and Damascus but in more detail than the previous one..



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User currently offlinePsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 5500 times:

I loved seeing those Syrian Air B747SPs at LHR with the lovely sounding Pratt and Whitney engines and quick take off. I would love to see them back again at LHR, and hope that would be the case when they are flying again. Definately miss those beautiful aircraft on a Sunday morning at LHR.

User currently offlineCol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2092 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4811 times:

Great news for the 747SP, people of America and Syria, and the employees of Syrianair. I hope this starts the way forward, as I believe Syria is a beautiful country to visit with a long history.

User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3569 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
It was news to me though, that Syria was prevented from importing spares for their aircraft..

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also to me. But whatever, a right step into the right direction

Quoting DUALRATED (Reply 1):
their situation is just like Iran's.

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no, their situation is much better :
> no fundamentalist government, but a secularist one
> no nuclear programs of any sort
> no hair-rising presidential speeches
> no US diplomats ever taken hostage
> Syria was with the USA in 1991 in the Liberation of Kuwait
> Syria in Iraq also supports Prime Minister al-Maliki

Quoting L1011buff (Reply 3):
is that how many Syrians viewed Bush

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not only Syrians, not only Syrians  wave   wave 


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

There are indications the sanctions will be lifted all together and a new US Ambassador appointed for Syria !
Great news and hopefully a tool to initiate a a major fleet-renewal of Syrian Arab Airlines.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtri.../WTARC/2009/ss_syria0115_02_09.asp



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User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 847 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

I still think the IL96 should be the way to replace their 747SP .

I do think the same for IRAN AIR : Either IL96 or some second hands A342s to replace their aging fleet for a couple of years ( 2009-2015 )

regards

dennys


User currently offlineMANGuy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2733 times:

Will this possibly enable them to re-open stations that closed like MAN? Their SP's were a majestic sight here in MAN until they changed to A320's then RB disappeared altogether  Sad

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