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A320 SR?  
User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8194 times:

On several recent flights on Northwest A320s, I have noticed on the safety cards that the aircraft type is referred to as "A320 SR".

What is the meaning of the "SR" ?

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User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8998 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8148 times:

see http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/2616711


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7980 times:

I assume it´s the same as with the B747, Short-range=SR.

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30865 posts, RR: 86
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7956 times:
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Is the "Overwater" designation a Boeing-specific one, and Airbus uses "SR" (Slide-Raft) to define aircraft configured with overwater safety equipment aboard, or is it something the airlines define?

[Edited 2009-02-08 13:43:02]

User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7897 times:

A320 SR means A320 SUPER ROCKET ! they have installed afterbuners for short field take offs and landings ! ehhehehe... its SLIDE RAFT or OVER WATER such as STITCH said....

... or A320 SPECIAL REQUEST !!! its a super duper fab 320 luxury liner !!!



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7706 times:



Quoting NASBWI (Reply 4):
its SLIDE RAFT or OVER WATER

Which makes perfect sense... NW (now DL if you prefer) has a good number of routes (ie Mexico and the Caribbean especially) where requirements for such equipment are applicable, on which A320s seem to be the equipment of choice.

For whatever reason, "short range" didn't seem to fit the SR designation inasmuch as NW's A320s are used regularly on non-stop flights of 1,500 miles, give or take, and are capable of 2,000+ miles with typical payload at 100% load factor. Not what is typically seen as short range for a 148-seat narrowbody type.


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3203 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7667 times:

As other users have said, it's "Slide / Raft"

Oddly enough, there are far more A320 SR's in the fleet than the 'standard' A320.



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User currently offlineTiktokJAKE From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7264 times:

Would BA have the SR as they fly over the English Channel to get to SPAIN/FRANCE/ETC..

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7409 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6378 times:

The regulations don't require Slide-Raft to fly over the Channel ... or from the UK to Spain

AF doesn't have any of its A318/19/20/21 equipped with Slide-Raft even though they fly them from CDG to North Africa (Tunisia/Algeria/Morocco) and to TLV, AMM, DAM.

[Edited 2009-02-09 12:55:14]

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6305 times:



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 8):
The regulations don't require Slide-Raft to fly over the Channel ... or from the UK to Spain

While the (short) distance across the Channel probably explains the lack of the Slide-Raft requirement...

...do regulations require a somewhat indirect routing on UK to western Spain and Portugal routes for aircraft not Slide-Raft equipped, so as to limit the amount of overwater flight time/distance?

In the U.S., overwater regulations effect even NYC/BOS to Florida east coast flights, restricting aircraft not equipped to overwater specifications to a less direct routing close to/over land. Seems like UK to western Spain/Portugal would be a similar situation.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6162 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 9):
...do regulations require a somewhat indirect routing on UK to western Spain and Portugal routes for aircraft not Slide-Raft equipped, so as to limit the amount of overwater flight time/distance?

I've just had a look at LHR-LIS; if the European regulation is the same as what we have in the States, it appears that a small amount (<20 miles) of eastward deviation is necessary without rafts, but any routes to Spain are OK.



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6108 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 10):
I've just had a look at LHR-LIS; if the European regulation is the same as what we have in the States, it appears that a small amount (<20 miles) of eastward deviation is necessary without rafts, but any routes to Spain are OK.

Thank you for finding and sharing this information. How are overwater regulations requiring rafts and crew certification calculated for U.S. airlines on shorter overwater sectors? ...such as NYC-MIA.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6086 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 11):
How are overwater regulations requiring rafts and crew certification calculated for U.S. airlines on shorter overwater sectors? ...such as NYC-MIA.

The quick and dirty answer is that if you are within 162 miles of shore, you don't need rafts (or the other overwater equipment). A straight shot NYC-MIA is just barely outside this; NYC-MCO isn't (though, depending on routing, not having overwater equipment could nevertheless be a disadvantage).



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6076 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
The quick and dirty answer is that if you are within 162 miles of shore, you don't need rafts

Thanks again!


User currently offlineAviationnut12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

I too also though it was short-range, but no it is slide-raft.


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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5881 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 13):
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12):
The quick and dirty answer is that if you are within 162 miles of shore, you don't need rafts

Thanks again!

That makes sense. It seems reasonable to assume that passengers cannot swim more than 162 miles.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5725 times:



Quoting Art (Reply 15):
That makes sense. It seems reasonable to assume that passengers cannot swim more than 162 miles.

The theory is that if you are within 162 miles of shore, you're pretty likely to be able to get back if, for instance, you lose an engine.

I wouldn't try to float with those seat cushions unless I didn't have much choice...



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