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Oldest 737 In Operation  
User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22497 times:

Which is the oldest 737 in operation today? I'm asking this because there are 3 732 based in ASU now, two of them from a new airline called Regional Paraguaya.
Here are some pictures and data for this 2 732:
EQUIPMENT: Boeing 737-230
ZP-CAJ
SN: 22124 LN727
FIRST FLIGHT: 12/03/1981
PREVIOUS OPERATOR: LAN CHILE (CC-CQT)

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EQUIPMENT: Boeing 737-230
ZP-CAH
SN: 22121 LN720
FIRST FLIGHT: 30/01/1981
PREVIOUS OPERATOR: LAN CHILE (CC-CDH)

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Ok, but now another interesting 732! The third 732 is used by as a charter airplane by a company called DELCAR
Here is some info:
EQUIPMENT: Boeing 737-201
ZP-CAQ
SN: 20211 LN141
FIRST FLIGHT: 23/02/1969
PREVIOUS OPERATOR: ECUATO GUINEANA DE AVIACION (3C-HAC)
OBSERVATIONS: cycles: 92.117


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So this must be one of the oldest 732 still flying, 40 years of flying!

Does anyone have stories from this airplanes?

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22440 times:

There are some belonging to the Peruvian Air Force which are supposed to still be in operation, or at least air worthy, which date from 1968.

This one here first flew on the 15.10.1968, looks in good condition, but not sure if she still flies for sure.


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Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineAeroHero128 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22407 times:

What are the odds of a 731 still flying? ...Smaller than the aircraft itself?  Yeah sure


Proceed on course...
User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22396 times:

wow! thanks for the pic Dan! that's interesting! I wonder if it continues flying!

But I think the one from DELCAR has to be one of the 732s with the highest number of cycles...

[Edited 2009-02-08 19:12:50]

User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22371 times:



Quoting AeroHero128 (Reply 2):
What are the odds of a 731 still flying?

They're all gone and have been turned into beer cans.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22354 times:
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Ozjet (Australia) have a B732 that was built in 1979 and flys in Air Norfolk colours

Quoting AeroHero128 (Reply 2):
What are the odds of a 731 still flying?

Sadly none now


User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22301 times:



Quoting 777ER (Reply 5):
Ozjet (Australia) have a B732 that was built in 1979 and flys in Air Norfolk colours

That's 10 years newer than the one from DELCAR...

Is there a way to know what number in the production line of the 732s were this airplanes??


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22272 times:



Quoting PZ (Reply 6):
Is there a way to know what number in the production line of the 732s were this airplanes??

Sure, there are several places on the net which display the entire production lists for most aircraft types. You can either look at the complete log, or search the registration to find out which number if was off the line:

http://www.airfleets.net/listing/b737-1.htm


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 22273 times:

It is possible that this aircraft

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is still in service as D2-TBI with Angola Air Charter. It first flew on 15 September 1968.


User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22197 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):
Sure, there are several places on the net which display the entire production lists for most aircraft types. You can either look at the complete log, or search the registration to find out which number if was off the line:

http://www.airfleets.net/listing/b73...1.htm

Thanks Dan! great link!
Here is what it says about this 732 from DELCAR:
Accumulated 64,408 hours, and apparently the highest number of cycles of any 737 in the world: 92,117.

Also according to airfleets, the one from DELCAR is the 8th oldest 732 in operation. Here are the 10 oldest 732's still active:

1) Boeing 737 - MSN 19077 Airline Air Philippines
2) Boeing 737 - MSN 19424 Airline Peruvian Air Force
3) Boeing 737 - MSN 19605 Airline Westinghouse
4) Boeing 737 - MSN 19707 Airline Peruvian Air Force
5) Boeing 737 - MSN 19932 Airline Purdue University
6) Boeing 737 - MSN 19956 Airline Pace Airlines
7) Boeing 737 - MSN 20132 Airline Grand Air
8) Boeing 737 - MSN 20211 Airline Delcar
9) Boeing 737 - MSN 20220 Airline GTRA Airways
10) Boeing 737 - MSN 20221 Airline Peruvian Air Force

Interesting that the Peruvian Air Force operates 3 of the still active 732's!


User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22199 times:



Quoting VV701 (Reply 8):
It is possible that this aircraft

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is still in service as D2-TBI with Angola Air Charter. It first flew on 15 September 1968.

According to Airfleets this airplane is stored


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22185 times:

No problem, glad it's of use  Smile

Quoting PZ (Reply 9):
1) Boeing 737 - MSN 19077 Airline Air Philippines

Unfortunately this aircraft is mothballed, I tried to fly on it whist in the Philippines in 2007, but was told it was in 'store' - which for an aircraft of it's age means that it won't be flying again.  Sad


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22121 times:

What is the maximum recommended number of cycles for a 732??

User currently offlineFlyingClrs727 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22040 times:



Quoting AeroHero128 (Reply 2):
What are the odds of a 731 still flying? ...Smaller than the aircraft itself?



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 4):
They're all gone and have been turned into beer cans.

Not the prototype. It's in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex at IAD.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22040 times:



Quoting PZ (Reply 9):
Thanks Dan! great link!
Here is what it says about this 732 from DELCAR:
Accumulated 64,408 hours, and apparently the highest number of cycles of any 737 in the world: 92,117.

Also according to airfleets, the one from DELCAR is the 8th oldest 732 in operation. Here are the 10 oldest 732's still active:

1) Boeing 737 - MSN 19077 Airline Air Philippines
2) Boeing 737 - MSN 19424 Airline Peruvian Air Force
3) Boeing 737 - MSN 19605 Airline Westinghouse
4) Boeing 737 - MSN 19707 Airline Peruvian Air Force
5) Boeing 737 - MSN 19932 Airline Purdue University
6) Boeing 737 - MSN 19956 Airline Pace Airlines
7) Boeing 737 - MSN 20132 Airline Grand Air
8) Boeing 737 - MSN 20211 Airline Delcar
9) Boeing 737 - MSN 20220 Airline GTRA Airways
10) Boeing 737 - MSN 20221 Airline Peruvian Air Force

Interesting that the Peruvian Air Force operates 3 of the still active 732's!

Ooops, 92 thousand cycles, has it been flying in the Hawaiis?
The Aloha "convertible" had 89k cycles and 35k hours at the time of the accident
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880428-0


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22016 times:



Quoting FlyingClrs727 (Reply 13):
It's in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex at IAD.

Jiggawha? Do you mean the Hazy center? If so I diddnt see it this past july...



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User currently offlinePZ From Paraguay, joined Oct 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 21981 times:



Quoting Alessandro (Reply 14):
Ooops, 92 thousand cycles, has it been flying in the Hawaiis?
The Aloha "convertible" had 89k cycles and 35k hours at the time of the accident
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19880428-0

This Aloha 732 was MSN 20209, and the one from DELCAR is MSN 20211, so they were built almost at the same time! here is the history of the 732 from DELCAR:


Delivery date | Airline | Registration |


03/03/1969 Piedmont N741N
05/08/1989 US Air N211US
01/12/1995 Bahamasair C6-BFJ
24/04/2000 FSB N288CD
05/05/2000 Palm Aire N288CD
01/08/2001 Cardinal LV-ZXS
01/11/2001 Dinar Lineas Aereas LV-ZXS
01/07/2003 Cardinal LV-ZXS
20/11/2004 Skyways LV-ZXS
12/10/2005 Ecuato Guineana 3C-HAC
01/11/2008 Delcar ZP-CAQ


User currently offlineYXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21847 times:

Sky King air charter's 737 must be old. I've worked on it a couple of times when it does hockey charters for the San Jose Sharks. Does anyone know how old that one is? It's pretty funny to see the two pilots get off the plane followed by the mechanic on every charter!

User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2129 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21840 times:

What about the Indian Air Force - they seem to have a couple of 732s listed as still active that first flew in Dec 1970 and Jan 1971 (see entries for c/n 20483 and 20484).

Quoting FlyingClrs727 (Reply 13):
Not the prototype. It's in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex at IAD.

The 367-80 (707 prototype) is at the Udvar-Hazy Center. I thought the first 737 was at the Museum of Flight near Boeing Field - where the first 747 currently is.



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User currently offlineArgonaut From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2004, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21804 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 15):

Quoting FlyingClrs727 (Reply 13):
It's in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum annex at IAD.

Jiggawha? Do you mean the Hazy center? If so I diddnt see it this past july...

It's actually at the Museum of Flight, at King County/Boeing Field, near Seattle. But yes, it does still exist.

rj



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7380 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 19950 times:



Quoting PZ (Reply 16):
This Aloha 732 was MSN 20209, and the one from DELCAR is MSN 20211, so they were built almost at the same time! here is the history of the 732 from DELCAR

This is correct. But this method of deduction is not guranteed to work. For example In this case 20209 looks to be the slightly younger aircraft. It first flew on 28 March 1969. But 20211 flew earlier (on 23 February) that year. Their respective Line Numbers of 152 and 141 are a better guide to their respective ages.

Also consider D2-TBI - see Reply 8. Its MSN is 19681, its Line Number 68 and it first flew on 15 September 1968. On the other hand MSN 19556 which was N9050U with UA appears at first sight to be measurably younger. But it actually first flew almost 5 months later on 9 February 1969. It had the more revealing Line Number 129.


User currently offline757GB From Uruguay, joined Feb 2009, 676 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 19258 times:

Thank you for all the good information.
I'm curious: are the NG 737s designed with the same number of cycles in mind?
They might look similar but maybe changes were made to the structure to make them lighter.
An on the same topic, how does the service life expected from a 737 differ from an A320?

I've read a little bit about a program to extend the service life of the A320, and I seem to remember reading that the design for the baby bus was for a shorter service life than the 737.
Any truth to this? Any information will be welcome.

Regards,
GB



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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2966 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 17459 times:

line 283 and 285 which are 1971 builds are with the Indian Air Force as K3187 and K3186 respectively.
The IAF uses three other 737-200's but much later builds incl a 1982 build. IC actually got several late build 727-200's and as CD. However after the grand merger all 732's transferred to AI Cargo. Last time I flew one was DEL-JAI-JDH-JAI-DEL and frankly, while it is nice and sentimental, I'm glad they've been retired!



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16045 times:



Quoting Argonaut (Reply 19):
It's actually at the Museum of Flight, at King County/Boeing Field, near Seattle. But yes, it does still exist.

I was going to say, I remember 367-80 but not the 731  laughing 



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15712 times:

Out here the only B732s are flying as freighters for AI cargo & Blue Dart.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
25 Adam42185 : This plane does not fly any more. It is used by the Av Tech department to conduct classes and such. But not airworthy by any means. The 727 donated b
26 Post contains links and images Jakbar : This plane does not fly anymore. View Large View MediumPhoto © Josh Akbar
27 Wolflair : Last one flying was used by the Mexican Air Force. I think it was reg. TP-05. The plane was sold 1 or 2 years ago and was then turned into beer cans.
28 Legacytravel : Fleet commonality and reduces maintenence costs. Mark in MKE
29 PZ : So if MSN 19077 and MSN 19932 are not flying anymore, DELCAR 732 (MSN 20211) is the 6th oldest 732 in operation today, but still the one with the high
30 A/c dxer : 6) Boeing 737 - MSN 19956 Airline Pace Airlines This one is sitting in INT with the engines off. Wont fly again because of the inspections it would ne
31 Dazed767 : I could be wrong but isn't that the USAir 737-200?
32 F27friend : These 737s were originally built for SABENA.
33 Mav75 : The airfleets.net page lists all 731's as -130's, which is LH's code. Were they the ONLY airline to take delivery of new 731's? I thought there might
34 Atomsareenough : They have a USAir 732 *inside* the museum, cut up as a display... The 737 prototype (in NASA livery) is, however, intact and sitting in the Museum of
35 Post contains links and images Dazed767 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Chris Banyai-Riepl Sweet, there it is. Thanks, I didn't realize it was there.
36 VV701 : I think this is correct. The last 731 (D-ABEW) had the Line Number 120. It first flew on 10 January 1969. But the first UA 732 (N9001U) had the Line
37 WestWing : For what it is worth, the Boeing database lists the following 737-100 deliveries: It says 22 were delivered to Lufthansa, two to Avianca, five to the
38 Viscount724 : MSA was the precursor of both SQ and MH. The first 732 was delivered to UA one day after the first 731 was delivered to LH. Boeing MSNs tell you noth
39 PanAm788 : I recall hearing this: Life expectancy for average Airbus: 20 years Life expectancy for average Boeing: 30 years Life expectancy for average Douglas:
40 FLY2HMO : I want to say that I'm almost sure I saw a 731 in storage across the street from the Pima Air Museum in TUS a few months ago and I've seen it there fo
41 SYfan100 : Some people in Canada say that when it gets really cold at those smaller airports that the CRJ flights are canceled. But all of the Canada North? flig
42 Viscount724 : Yes the 732 was offered very soon after the 731 and almost all customers preferred the slightly longer 732. Apart from a 36 inch fuselage section ins
43 Alessandro : Sure, the oldest Airbus is supposed to be 39 this year. As for Boeings and Douglas longlivity I don´t know if it´s true.
44 Post contains links GFFgold : Still a few 732's in daily service around Indonesia, though no real oldies... tropical climate and some local airlines' penchant for bending a/c see t
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