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DL Moves In With NW At S Concourse At SEA.  
User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5945 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4482 times:
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I noticed an article in the Seattle Times that DL will be moving from the A terminal to the S-gates...taking three of those gates. Is there still enough room for the international stuff at the S-gates?

Who will take over the three gates in the A-concourse? Is it possible that UA or CO will move there?

[Edited 2009-02-10 16:56:08]

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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8910 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4457 times:

Sounds good - no more hiking to use a lounge in SEA with the CRC being closed.

User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5685 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4163 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Thread starter):
Who will take over the three gates in the A-concourse? Is it possible that UA or CO will move there?

If UA and CO merge, it might make sense to move CO to N. Perhaps even with the codeshare. This would give those N gates a better workout.

Still, I really enjoy the A concourse, and haven't been to the S satellite in years. I wonder what it looks like these days?

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4125 times:



Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 2):
If UA and CO merge, it might make sense to move CO to N. Perhaps even with the codeshare. This would give those N gates a better workout.

AS is taking over N and giving up most of D. We will eventually only be N and C gates.

So CO won't be moving to N with UA. Don't know where UA is going to go but I imagine a shuffle of gates coming up.

I can see them moving everyone down A and moving WN over on to some of the A gates to allow UA and CO to share the end of B. They will just have to figure out where to park the 777.


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3696 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4116 times:



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 3):
AS is taking over N and giving up most of D. We will eventually only be N and C gates.

So CO won't be moving to N with UA. Don't know where UA is going to go but I imagine a shuffle of gates coming up.

I can see them moving everyone down A and moving WN over on to some of the A gates to allow UA and CO to share the end of B. They will just have to figure out where to park the 777.

If D is going to be empty, maybe WN take a few gates there. They could move HA to those DL gates thus giving most of the end of B for CO and UA while expanding the PC. With the future of CO/UA sharing, I wish they would keep the PC since the ladies there are amazing and the nicest ever!

Does QX plan to keep that gate(s) in B?



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User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4055 times:



Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 4):
If D is going to be empty, maybe WN take a few gates there.

Good point. Didn't even think of that for some reason. I imagine WN could move all their operation to the D gates.

Quoting AznMadSci (Reply 4):
Does QX plan to keep that gate(s) in B?

I honestly don't know about that one. Might not. With AS taking over N, there is talk of adding jetways on the west side of the N concourse where OO and QK park. So adding some more there could free up another gate on C for QX to operate out of.


User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5685 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4024 times:



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 3):
AS is taking over N and giving up most of D. We will eventually only be N and C gates.

I guess I remember that conversation from a few months back, but it is getting fuzzy now.  Smile It revolved around the rationale behind AS giving up gates in D and using more (most, all) of N. I can't remember what the consensus was, if any regarding UA. I'm so out-of-touch with them in SEA that I really don't know what their needs are.

Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 3):
I can see them moving everyone down A and moving WN over on to some of the A gates to allow UA and CO to share the end of B. They will just have to figure out where to park the 777.

I can see what you are saying, but isn't WN always a little loathe to move to the "newer, nicer, and thus, pricier" gate areas?

Seriously, I'm just too out-of-touch with the whole gate situation anymore that I probably shouldn't even comment.  Smile

-Dave



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User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3696 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3997 times:



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 5):
I imagine WN could move all their operation to the D gates.

Also, WN could move to UA's ticketing area, and enlarge CO's ticketing area to handle UA and AC..

Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 5):
I honestly don't know about that one. Might not. With AS taking over N, there is talk of adding jetways on the west side of the N concourse where OO and QK park. So adding some more there could free up another gate on C for QX to operate out of.

I only mention that because those OO and QK flights could operate there to further consolidate CO/UA ops out of B.



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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3801 times:

Seems like it would be best to make the A gates for Star Alliance - move CO, UA, and AC into A and keep US there. UA could move the RCC into the former DL Crown room space.

Then, AA, VS, FL, and YX all move to Concourse D to take up the former AS space.

WN would stay in B for the time being, along with HA.

AS would take C/N.

DL/NW and the international carriers take N.


User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

UA at A would make sense, space for the 777 there. Don't think D can handle wide-bodies? AA at D would make sense with the agreement with AS. VX and F9 to follow AA? I'm sure AS would love being that close to VX.


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User currently offlinePilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

I would suggest changing the name of this article from "Moves" to "To Move". The move has not happened yet.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7557 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3750 times:



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 8):
DL/NW and the international carriers take N.

You mean S? Because IIRC N doesn't have customs, since UA brings in their international arrivals into S.



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5685 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3683 times:



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 8):
Seems like it would be best to make the A gates for Star Alliance - move CO, UA, and AC into A and keep US there. UA could move the RCC into the former DL Crown room space.

Then, AA, VS, FL, and YX all move to Concourse D to take up the former AS space.

WN would stay in B for the time being, along with HA.

The only problem with this plan would be that pretty much everyone - save WN and HA - would be moving, some of them quite a distance. I'm not sure such a big shuffle would be warranted. Instead, as mentioned previously, move WN to D and UA to B and call it good.

The A gates are certainly attractive, but B would be better for connections between the Star carriers. I don't know how the 777 would work on B, but perhaps some gate remodeling could improve the situation.

Also, I thought it was the new conventional wisdom that AS was the next target of The New Delta.  Smile If so, perhaps if we're going to move everyone, we should move AS to A/B, CO, UA, US, and AC to N, WN to D and AA, FL, F9, HA, YX et al to C.

-Dave

-Dave



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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3094 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

What's the time frame here?


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User currently offlineFlypba From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3554 times:



Quoting Hatbutton (Reply 3):
AS is taking over N and giving up most of D. We will eventually only be N and C gates.

so what will happen to concourse D? will that be only Horizon?


User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3508 times:



Quoting Flypba (Reply 14):
so what will happen to concourse D? will that be only Horizon?

No, QX will stay on C. D will be whoever moves in after the UA shuffle. Don't know for sure on that one. All I do know is AS/QX will eventually only be N and C. We will retain D1-D4 for some time as they are near our board room and close to the other side of security.

But we have already sold back a number of the D gates on the end of the concourse to the Port. We still use them when we need to, but we just don't own them anymore. As soon as they find a place for UA, we will be moving it all over to N. I think we are actually going to start using some more gates at N very soon here.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5945 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
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So, if DL assumes three gates in S, does that mean AS/QX will completely move out of S-gates, except for Mexican arrivals? Are their any plans to have another customs area for the N-Gates for Alaska's Mexican flights?

I think HA should move to the A-gates since DL's gates can handle widebodies. Can any of the B-gates handle a 777 or two? I know CO used to fly 764's into SEA. Air Canada and Jazz should also move to the B-gates.

WN should move to the D-gates, then they can further expand here if they so choose.

When this shuffle is all said and done, I'm going to so confused. It already threw me for a loop when AA moved from C to A.


User currently offlineHatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1500 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3270 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 16):
So, if DL assumes three gates in S, does that mean AS/QX will completely move out of S-gates, except for Mexican arrivals? Are their any plans to have another customs area for the N-Gates for Alaska's Mexican flights?

AS only uses the S-gates for international arrivals. I'm pretty sure QX does too. But they might have a departure go out every now and then. Really, everyone has to use the S-gates for international arrivals because that's where the customs are. So there is no getting around that.


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