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Flydubai To Start Services To Pune, Goa,Chandigarh  
User currently offlineRajrs From India, joined Aug 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8729 times:

FLYDUBAI to start services to 5 Indian destinations.

According to a PTI report, flydubai, Dubai's first budget carrier, is scheduled for take-off to five Indian destinations–- Pune, Chandigarh, Amritsar, Jaipur and Goa in the second quarter of this year. The flights, however, will depend on the availability of aircraft, as the airline has not received any of its aircraft so far, stated Dubai's Business 24/7 newspaper. “No aircraft has arrived yet but we are on schedule to launch the airline. We will soon be making an announcement about the airline's launch. All I can say for now is that it is on track,” informed Ghaith al Ghaith, Chief Executive, Flydubai.

Here is the link...

http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/flyd...y-second-quarter-of-this-year-5086

Will it work for PNQ? comments pls.

Currently, Air India Express PNQ-DXB 3x wkly service is available on the route.



Rajrs

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User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8722 times:

I have for long felt Pune has the potential to feed international flights. But its closeness to BOM works against it.

User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 527 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8674 times:



Quoting PP705 (Reply 1):
I have for long felt Pune has the potential to feed international flights. But its closeness to BOM works against it.

Not really. Pune is a good four hour drive from Mumbai. The only reason why Pune does not see too many international flights is because the Lohegaon airport at Pune is an IAF base, and the runway there is too small to accommodate wide-bodies.

Flydubai is the perfect candidate to start ops to PNQ using A32x family aircraft.

- Vivek


User currently offlineRajrs From India, joined Aug 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8619 times:

They have ordered 54 B737-800 NG


Rajrs


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8571 times:

We expected flydubai to start with India.
After that, I suppose KWI, BAH, DOH & MCT wil follow, then BEY, AMM, DAM, ALY/HBE.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8430 times:

From what Sheikh Ahmed told me recently - FlyDubai will work extremely well to Tier-II Indian cities as well as destinations in West Asia and Central Asia. I wonder if FlyDubai will connect into EK flights for connecting passengers. Why should you travel down to BOM or DEL when you could go direct DXB and onwards. May be an issue with high-yield biz traffic though.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8380 times:

It would be good to have a list of Indian cities/areas and the number of people that have moved to the UAE and Gulf.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12419 posts, RR: 100
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8323 times:
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Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 2):
Not really. Pune is a good four hour drive from Mumbai. The only reason why Pune does not see too many international flights is because the Lohegaon airport at Pune is an IAF base, and the runway there is too small to accommodate wide-bodies.

Not to mention the IAF limits the number of flights from Pune.

I see tons of potential for Pune *if* they had an airport sized for the city. I haven't heard of them buying any land or anything... so I do not expect a change for a long time.

Gao is interesting. Its not a wealthy Indian city and it wouldn't be on EK's radar to try with the A332's.

It will be interesting to see how they operate/expand.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineShanxz From Singapore, joined Apr 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8183 times:



Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 7):
Gao is interesting. Its not a wealthy Indian city and it wouldn't be on EK's radar to try with the A332's.

It will be interesting to see how they operate/expand.

Goa is a huge tourist destination. So lots of leisure travelers heading there.



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User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8129 times:



Quoting Shanxz (Reply 8):
Goa is a huge tourist destination. So lots of leisure travelers heading there.

Pardon my ignorance but I really think Goa sees very few tourists from the middle east. There are many people from Goa working in the Gulf. This could be the target market.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8115 times:

When is FlyDubai's first aircraft now due?

Have they decided on a two/three letter flight code (or has one been assigned to them)?

What level are they pitching their service at? Will it be ultra-low cost like Ryanair, or slightly more refined, like Easyjet (I'm guessing the latter)?


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8096 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 10):
Will it be ultra-low cost like Ryanair, or slightly more refined, like Easyjet (I'm guessing the latter)?

I am guessing here, but I think it will push the boundary of "low-cost," what with probably offering connections and inflight refreshments and quite probably assigned seating. What will its seating density be? I wonder about its aircraft utilisation and labour productivity. Anyway, I cannot imagine an ultra-low-cost business model. But time will, of course, tell...



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 574 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 8048 times:



Quoting PP705 (Reply 1):
Pune has the potential to feed international flights. But its closeness to BOM works against it

I don´t think the closeness to BOM is an issue, I´d say the opposite. Pune is a one hour drive away from BOM, it can work as an excelent, uncongested and low cost alternative to BOM.

Premium passengers that want TO go directly to BOM won´t be flying flydubai anyway, they´ll fly with EK


I am eagerly awaiting for the delivery of the the first 738s to flydubai, as they are the first customer to receive 737NGs with the updated interior. Any idea when the first ones are sheduled to be delivered?


User currently offlineRivervisual From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 8030 times:

Given the number of foreign owned/partnered businesses in the Pune area as well as the large foreign student population both low cost and regular service options are very much under served.

If you add in the fairly well off local population (lots of tech and related jobs and a lower cost of living than Bombay) you have enough people to fill many more flights than currently offered.

The IAF Base issue is the main reason for the lack of flights along with the runway length. Hopefully, in the near future more airlines will receive permission to fly out of PNQ.

And, the trip to/from BOM is not a quick or easy one. The time it takes to get from BOM to the expressway and the time from the end of the expressway to most parts of Pune is more than the time it takes on the expressway itself. You have to allow 3.5 - 4 hours travel time plus the advance check in time so it can easily involve 6 extra hours compared to a direct flight.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3069 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7838 times:



Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 12):
Pune is a one hour drive away from BOM, it can work as an excelent, uncongested and low cost alternative to BOM.

The average time to travel between the two cities by road is easliy 4-5 hours......the expressway itself is a 3 hours drive.....


User currently offlinePP705 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7701 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 14):
Pune is a one hour drive away from BOM, it can work as an excelent, uncongested and low cost alternative to BOM.

It's a LITTLE more than one hour. Will not work as a low cost alternative. If they can link the new proposed airport in Navi Mumbai with the expressway, then the airport can easily serve both cities.


User currently offlineRajrs From India, joined Aug 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7695 times:

As per FLYDUBAI website, they will operate from new International airport i.e. Al Maktoum International (JXB).

Initially EK will support the airline during set-up but it will not be part of Emirates group.


Rajrs.


User currently offlineAirbus1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

The new airport at Jebel Ali is delayed for at least one year - target opening is now mid 2010.

The 2009 Dubai Air Show will remain at DXB.

One question ref FlyDubai and EK. Will you be able to book through tickets to and from FlyDubai destinations with EK connections. Could a pax buy a through ticket from Newcastle to Goa for instance.

Makes some sense to be able to do so - especially while both carriers are at DXB but largely invalidates the whole point-to-point, no transfer traffic, LCC model.

Guess we will know soon enough.

Airbus1


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7591 times:



Quoting Airbus1 (Reply 17):
The new airport at Jebel Ali is delayed for at least one year - target opening is now mid 2010.

I thought Jebel Ali was supposed to open for passenger operations in 2012/2013?


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3069 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7321 times:



Quoting PP705 (Reply 15):
Quoting Gr8Circle:
Pune is a one hour drive away from BOM, it can work as an excelent, uncongested and low cost alternative to BOM.

It's a LITTLE more than one hour. Will not work as a low cost alternative.

I've been misquoted.....the one hour comment was made by

Quote:
PlunaCRJ

Having travelled on the Mumbai - Pune route by road dozens of time over the year, I'm well aware that....

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 14):
The average time to travel between the two cities by road is easliy 4-5 hours......the expressway itself is a 3 hours drive.....

 smile 


User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7280 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 5):
I wonder if FlyDubai will connect into EK flights for connecting passengers.



Quoting Rajrs (Reply 16):
As per FLYDUBAI website, they will operate from new International airport i.e. Al Maktoum International



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 18):
I thought Jebel Ali was supposed to open for passenger operations in 2012/2013?

JXB has been delayed and is schedueld for 2011-12. FlyDubai will be based at DXB's Terminal 2 which will be kind of an LCC terminal going into the future. FlyDubai and EK currently have no plans for connecting pax.

However, do checkout the link to Low Cost Connections on the emirates booking website. http://www.emirates.com/ae/english/p...nnecting_flights_interstitial.aspx

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 4):
After that, I suppose KWI, BAH, DOH & MCT wil follow

The next destination would be Iran (Shiraz, Mashad). GCC states would be much later due to strong presence of EK.


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7117 times:



Quoting AirIndia (Reply 20):
GCC states would be much later due to strong presence of EK.

I suppose there's an extent to which the Gulf market can support another LCC. Jazeera, Air Arabia, Bahrain Air all offer convenient schedules on most citypairs anyway. FlyDubai, however, is serving cities not served that would benefit. Now, if only EK could somehow codeshare or legalize connecting flydubai with EK mainline in DXB (so that a passenger could fly Pune-Dubai, then Dubai-London on EK for example).


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7104 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 21):
Now, if only EK could somehow codeshare or legalize connecting flydubai with EK mainline in DXB (so that a passenger could fly Pune-Dubai, then Dubai-London on EK for example).

That is exactly my point - FlyDubai can send daily 738's to cities that can't support a 332 and travelers from those cities can skip flying via DEL BOM or other big hubs. At the end of the day DNATA gains any which way.



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User currently offlineAirbus1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days ago) and read 6976 times:

Seems this thread is a bit ahead of the news. This article is from ArabianBusiness.com - today.

I think Terminal 2 sounds right - with a limited first year; maybe delaying delivery of some of the 737s until a temporary low cost terminal is reday at JBX (next year???).

Like my apartment here - every three monthe they announce another three month delay !! Only 15 months late so far !

Airbus1



Launch airport for FlyDubai still uncertain
Sunday, 15 February 2009

AIRPORT UNCERTAINTY: FlyDubai could be launched from Dubai International Airport (pictured). (Getty Images)FlyDubai chiefs have admitted they are still deciding which Dubai airport the budget carrier will fly from, just months before the airline’s proposed launch.

The low-cost carrier was expected to begin operations at Al Maktoum International Airport in Jebel Ali this summer.

But hub operator Dubai Airports recently revealed the airport’s opening will be delayed a year until mid-2010.

In response to Dubai Airports’ (DAC) announcement, FlyDubai told Arabian Business on Sunday that it is still “in talks with representatives of DAC and will be able to make an announcement on which airport we will fly from soon”.

It’s understood FlyDubai will have to launch from Dubai International Airport, the emirate’s existing hub, to remain on schedule.

But the airline’s CEO Ghaith Al Ghaith insisted plans to begin operations this summer were still on track, despite rumours that delays at Al Maktoum airport had hit FlyDubai’s launch date.

“We will soon unveil the airline's planned routes and more information about our services,” he added.

“Before we can confirm any new destination there is a process of approvals from both internal and external stakeholders, and we are not in a position to make any announcement at the moment. All we can say for now is that we are on track to launch in mid-2009.”

When launched, the carrier will fly to destinations within four to five hours flying time from Dubai. The carrier’s chiefs are considering several routes to the Indian subcontinent, north and east Africa, southeast Europe and across the Middle East.

No destinations were confirmed with Fly Dubai in “no position to give further details”.

Last July, the carrier ordered 54 Boeing 737-800 aircraft worth $4bn at the Farnborough Airshow.

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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6826 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 22):
At the end of the day DNATA gains any which way

I did not get your point regarding DNATA. maybe u meant the Maktoum family gains any which way.

The issue is that flydubai and Ek wud be on different terminals... and in this case T2 and T3 are on opposite sides of the runway in DXB. Transferring could become a nightmare. there wud be a clash in business interest between DNATA and EK in that case......

I hope they find a solution to this and capitalise on this advnatgeous position.


25 Directorguy : Having flydubai operate from T2 should not be a problem. I see passengers transferring from T2 flights to T1 (and later T3 when it opened). DNATA is
26 Cricket : Hmmm... given that T3 does have a significant underground area - can't they build an underground trevelator between the two terminals. A bus service
27 AirIndia : that seems to be highly unlikely... but u never know. tough times calls for tough decisions only till the first flight. Flydubai will move its office
28 Amritpal : Glad to hear my previous home town Chandigarh (Mohali) is in the news.
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