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IAD-DXB UA976 Returned To IAD  
User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7836 times:

I was on UA976 tonight... After one hour delay, the plane took off around 11:15pm, but returned to IAD at 3:20AM due to left engine problem. The captain didn't give us any more detail information about the situation. I tried to listen to the pilot's communication through channel 9, but it was disabled. The landing was extremely scary due to major bumps which i beleive were caused by the engine's problem. Fortunately we landed safe.

Cheers from IAD 4:10AM

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User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7790 times:
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Enjoy your daytime flight to Dubai, according to Apollo, you're estimated to depart at 12 noon.

[Edited 2009-02-13 01:34:26]


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User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7760 times:

Thanks Northstar. It seems to be a long day!

User currently offlineDAL763ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7650 times:
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http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...6/history/20090213/0316Z/KIAD/OMDB

Some route, huh? why did you have to hold south of Long Island, come back to PHL and then go above the Atlantic just to return to IAD? Were you dumping fuel this whole time? Or was it a measure not to dump fuel?

Looking again on the route, could it be that you were holding above Long Island on the return to IAD? who would dump fuel above NYC?



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User currently offlineDescendVia From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7545 times:



Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 3):

Dump fuel over water......... your almost at MTGW leaving for DXB and are well above Max landing weight for a good long while.


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7515 times:

Quoting DescendVia (Reply 4):
your almost at MTGW leaving for DXB and are well above Max landing weight for a good long while.

However, if you need to land you simply do an overweight landing. In a real emergency, the last thing in the world you would want to do is delay landing in order to dump fuel. All transport aircraft are certified to land at their MTOW (structural).

Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
The landing was extremely scary due to major bumps which i beleive were caused by the engine's problem. Fortunately we landed safe.

Most likely not. Just a coincidence.

[Edited 2009-02-13 04:15:33]

User currently offlineDescendVia From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7461 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 5):
QUOTE

Very true but the way it sounds, this was only a left engine shutdown.......


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7435 times:



Quoting DescendVia (Reply 6):
Very true but the way it sounds, this was only a left engine shutdown.......

Shutdown? Never read that in the OP. However, if that was the case, I can assure you that would qualify as an emergency in a 2 engine aircraft. "only a left engine shutdown" is not quite the right characterization.

I can assure you if it was an engine shutdown, the aircraft would not have returned to IAD. It would have to have landed at the nearest (in terms of time) suitable airport.


User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7391 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
The landing was extremely scary due to major bumps which i beleive were caused by the engine's problem.

Or could just be the strong winds - it has been windy for last 24 hours or so - with some gusts reaching over 60 mph.


User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7355 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
Shutdown? Never read that in the OP. However, if that was the case, I can assure you that would qualify as an emergency in a 2 engine aircraft. "only a left engine shutdown" is not quite the right characterization.

I can assure you if it was an engine shutdown, the aircraft would not have returned to IAD. It would have to have landed at the nearest (in terms of time) suitable airport.

Very true, with an engine shutdown no one in this planet is going to dump fuel or return to his departure airport when they were so far.

The holding south of long islando must be for fuel dumping.

Engine problem doesn´t mean engine shut down always.


User currently offlineDescendVia From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6914 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 9):

Sorry I should not have used "shutdown" bad use of terms. I was "asses over elbows" this morning to get out of the house to the airport and I just typed something up very fast.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25057 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

Last night was rough for UA at IAD. Besides all the weather related dalays, UA946 IAD-AMS also did an air-turn back, but was dispatched again about 3.5 hours late.


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User currently offlineAlphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

Yesterday and today were rough with the winds here, and the bumps coming into land were probably due to the weather...unless the engine was throwing out turbine blades, I doubt it would cause the bumps.

Yesterday only runway 30 was in use - for local IAD people its very fun to watch the controller try to get the flights out inbetween the arrivals doing a circle to land from 1R (similar to the old Tai Kak approach!) with a go-around and windshear warning here and there.

Today they were able to use 1R and 1C in addition to 30 but with windshear advisories in effect all day.


User currently offlineFlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6380 times:



Quoting Alphaomega (Reply 12):
Yesterday only runway 30 was in use - for local IAD people its very fun to watch the controller try to get the flights out inbetween the arrivals doing a circle to land from 1R (similar to the old Tai Kak approach!) with a go-around and windshear warning here and there.

I tried to start a thread about this last night but there were site problems. In the hundreds of trips I've made out of IAD I only remember seeing an arrival to 30 once: a 747SP years ago.

I was not there but heard the action on liveatc.net and would really like to have seen an ILS 1R circle to land 30! Shades of the old Hong Kong airport without the mountain?



...are we there yet?
User currently offlineAlphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6083 times:



Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 13):
I was not there but heard the action on liveatc.net and would really like to have seen an ILS 1R circle to land 30! Shades of the old Hong Kong airport without the mountain?

Eh...if you watched from the right angle you could get the mountains of West Virginia...

There were a few passengers who were sick upon landing...I know of 3 who were on EI 119.


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