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XL-Airways France Is For Sale..  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5532 times:

By it's Islandic owners Straumur.
The airline has managed to generate a profit of 8 M € in 2008 with a turnover of 270M€.
Currently the fleet is composed of three A320-200 and two A330-200 aircraft.Two additional A320-200 will join the fleet in April and June 2009.
The French touristic -magazin "Tourmag" reports in it's online-edition that one "major" is seemingly interested in the airline.Since Air France would never get Brussels approval to purchase another French carrier,that basically leaves BA,Virgin or LH as candidates.
Not tied to to the sale of it's French daughter,the German XL airline might be sold independantly.

http://www.tourmag.com/Une-major-pou...ter-XL-Airways-France-_a30435.html


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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

I wonder who it is who is interested - could be LH - they seem to be taking advantage of low asset prices to buy up half of Europe's airlines at the moment!

User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

It's a leisure carrier, so maybe Thomas Cook, TUI or one of these huge touroperators will be looking at them

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5411 times:

Thomas Cook just bought 25 % of Condor from LH -so I doubt they want to invest currently any more funds into a business segment that is hard hit by recession.And TUI rather wants to reduce their fleet and get out of operating airlines- they have Corsair in France already who operate an all widebody fleet.


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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5356 times:



Quoting Emptyarm (Reply 2):
It's a leisure carrier, so maybe Thomas Cook, TUI or one of these huge touroperators will be looking at them

Or maybe Groupo Marsans so they'll have another airline to use the A380s with Big grin


User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5267 times:
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XL France has currently a good contract with Thomas Cook Belgium. They fly the 332 to CUN, Varadero and Phuket. It's about three rotations a week with sometimes a stop in NTE as far as the Carrib' are concerned.

Thomas Cook Belgium has no long-haul fleet, hence this sub-charter contract.



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User currently offlineAAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5170 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
The airline has managed to generate a profit of 8 M € in 2008 with a turnover of 270M€.

Wow least some part of the XL brand managed to turn a proffit!

My moneys on Tui - UK (Thomson Airways). 4 A330's would certainly bridge the gap between the 767 and 787 issues there faced with


User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5031 times:

I'd like to place a bet on Thomas Cook buying the airline. They already have Airbus A320, A332 and A333 aircraft so providing its the same engines, fleet compatability would be easy enough and XL France are already operating some flights for them.

Anybody know if/how big Thomas Cook are in the package market in France?

Why is XL Germany being split off? Because of a different (Boeing) fleet?

Quoting AAMDanny (Reply 6):
My moneys on Tui - UK (Thomson Airways). 4 A330's would certainly bridge the gap between the 767 and 787 issues there faced with

I disagree, as far as I know, Thomson have never shown too much of an interest in Airbus a/c. They have tried to rid themselves of the ex First Choice Airbus' but not managed it so far due to lease issues.



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User currently offlineCwldude From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4885 times:

Nah it won't be TUI, my initial thoughts were Thomas Cook aswell, they don't have a French Airline do they? It would see them break into another important European country, and as said, fleet migration shouldn't be a problem!


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User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4515 times:



Quoting Cwldude (Reply 8):
Thomas Cook aswell, they don't have a French Airline do they?

No, not at the moment. Any ideas who they use for the flights?

Quoting Flybehubby (Reply 7):
Anybody know if/how big Thomas Cook are in the package market in France?

To answer my own question, the Thomas Cook Group website states that they are the number 1 by market share in France.



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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4482 times:



Quoting Flybehubby (Reply 7):
XL France are already operating some flights for them.

Speaking of which I saw one of their A330's at MAN last week. Was she up here doing work for TCX or in for maintenance?

XLF0010P 08FEB 332 CDG-MAN Arrive 1515
XLF0011P 11FEB 332 MAN-CDG Depart 0915



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User currently offlineFlybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
Speaking of which I saw one of their A330's at MAN last week. Was she up here doing work for TCX or in for maintenance?

She was here for maintenance, i have a pic of my phone of her inside the hangar.

[Edited 2009-02-16 12:03:40]


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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2250 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Someone recently told me Air Transat was sitting on some cash. Maybe the worldwide financial situation has had an impact though. I wonder if they are looking to grow.

User currently offlineEaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1022 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4222 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
By it's Islandic owners Straumur.

Pretty sure it's Icelandic.


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