Asiana Airlines Terminal 5
SEOUL (ICN) - 3 weekly - Boeing 777 - c/s US
British Airways Terminal 5
LONDON (LHR) - 3 daily - Boeing 747, 767, 777
Etihad Airways Terminal 5
ABU DHABI (AUH) - 3 weekly (from 3 Sept.), Daily (from 1 Oct.) - Airbus A340-500
Iberia Airlines Arrivals: Terminal 5, Departures: Terminal 3
MADRID (MAD) - Daily - Airbus A340 - c/s AA
Japan Airlines Terminal 5
TOKYO (NRT) - Daily - Boeing 747-400 - c/s AA
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Terminal 5
AMSTERDAM (AMS) - Daily - Boeing 747-400 - c/s NW
Korean Air Terminal 5
SEOUL (ICN) - Daily - Boeing 777-200 - c/s DL, NW
LOT Polish Airlines Terminal 5
KRAKÓW (KRK) – 4 weekly – Boeing 767-200 – c/s UA
WARSAW (WAW) – 9 weekly – Boeing 767-300 – c/s UA
Lufthansa Arrivals: Terminal 5, Departures: Terminal 1
DÜSSELDORF (DUS) – Daily – Airbus A340-300 – c/s UA
FRANKFURT AM MAIN (FRA) – 2 daily – Airbus A330-300, Boeing 747-400 – c/s MX, TG, AI, UA
MUNICH (MUC) – Daily – Airbus A340-600 – c/s UA
Mexicana Terminal 5
CANCÚN (CUN) – Daily – Airbus A319 – c/s VW
GUADALAJARA (GDL) – Daily – Airbus A320 – c/s AA
LEÓN (BJX) via MONTERREY (MTY) – Daily Airbus A320 – c/s AA, LH
MEXICO CITY (MEX) – 3 daily –Airbus A319, A320 – c/s AA
MEXICO CITY (MEX) via MONTERREY (MTY) – Daily - Airbus A320 – c/s AA
ZACATECAS (ZCL) – Daily – Airbus A319 – c/s AA
Royal Jordanian Terminal 5
AMMAN (AMM) – Daily – Airbus A340-200 – c/s AA, US
Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS) Terminal 5
COPENHAGEN (CPH) – Daily – Airbus A340-300 – c/s AC, LH, UA
STOCKHOLM (ARN) – Daily – Airbus A330-300 – c/s AC, LH, UA
Swiss International Air Lines Terminal 5
ZÜRICH (ZRH) – Daily – Airbus A340-300 – c/s UA
TACA – operated by Lacsa Terminal 5
GUATEMALA CITY (GUA) – 5 weekly – Airbus A320
SAN SALVADOR (SAL) - 3 weekly - Airbus A320
Turkish Airlines Terminal 5
ISTANBUL (IST) – Daily – Airbus A330-200 – c/s UA
United Airlines Arrivals (excluding Preclearance airports): Terminal 5, Departures: Terminal 1
AMSTERDAM (AMS) – Daily – Boeing 767-300 - c/s LH, SK, TP, US
ARUBA (AUA) – 1 weekly – Boeing 757-200
BEIJING (PEK) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 - c/s CA
CALGARY (YYC) – Daily – Boeing 737-500 c/s AC
CANCÚN (CUN) – 9 weekly – Airbus A320
FRANKFURT AM MAIN (FRA) – 2 daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, TK, TP
LONDON (LHR) – 3 daily – Boeing 767-300 c/s BD, LH, TG, TK
MEXICO CITY (MEX) – Daily (from June 4) – Airbus A320
MUNICH (MUC) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, TK
PARIS (CDG) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, US
PUERTO VALLARTA (PVR) – 1 weekly – Airbus A319
SAN JOSÉ DEL CABO (SJD) – 1 weekly – Airbus A319
SAN JUAN (SJU) – Daily – Airbus A320 c/s AC, US
SÃO PAULO (GRU) – Daily – Boeing 767-300 c/s JJ, US
SEOUL (ICN) via TOKYO (NRT) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s NH, TG, US
SHANGHAI (PVG) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s CA, FM
SINGAPORE (SIN) via HONG KONG (HKG) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s US
TORONTO (YYZ) – 7 daily – Airbus A320/Boeing 737 c/s AC
VANCOUVER (YVR) – 5 daily – Airbus A319 c/s AC
Virgin Atlantic Airways Terminal 5
LONDON (LHR) – Daily – Airbus A340-300 – c/s CO, SQ
c/s = codeshare partner(s) for that route
Couple of things to note fom last summer to this summer:
→ Aer Lingus increases frequency from 7 weekly to 10 weekly
→ Air India reduces capacity from 747-400 to 777-200
→ Alitalia will now operate with A332 (from AP) up from 763
→ Air One's service to Milan (MXP) is gone
→ Hainan Airways' scheduled start-up to Beijing (PEK) is cancelled
→ Asiana Airlines reduces capacity from 747-400 to 777-200
→ British Airways reduces capacity from 2x 747 & 777 to 747, 767, 777
→ Etihad Airways new service to Abu Dhabi (AUH) begins 3 September
→ United Airlines' new service to Mexico City (MEX) begins 4 June
→ Turkish Airlines reduces capacity from A343 to A332
All international arrivals are handled at T5 because they have to clear customs & immigration - this is the only terminal which has this facility. Countries like Canada or Aruba (and soon Ireland! ) which have pre-clearance facilities at their airports do not have to use T5 hence AC is located in T2.
RIPCORDD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1022 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9013 times:
San Juan is Domestic..... And all international flights must arrive at Term 5 to clear customs then UA/AA are pushed off to depart from their own terminals which is much cheaper and easier for the paxs. There is no customs yet at term 3 and term 1 UA/AA there was some talk of this years ago but it has not gone anywhere yet.
LXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2104 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 8931 times:
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2): All international arrivals are handled at T5 because they have to clear customs & immigration - this is the only terminal which has this facility. Countries like Canada or Aruba (and soon Ireland! Big grin) which have pre-clearance facilities at their airports do not have to use T5 hence AC is located in T2.
Are aircraft docking to T5 to let passengers out and then relocated to their designated departure terminal?
AmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2610 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 8845 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 5): You left out ORD-AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG on UA.
Nope - the Hong Kong flight continues on to Singapore which I put in as one ↓
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter): SINGAPORE (SIN) via HONG KONG (AND OLD: Hong Kong - Kai Tak International (HKG / VHHH) (closed), China - Hong Kong">HKG) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s US
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7): For UA you say "excluding preclearance airports", but show points in Canada (and Aruba) which have preclearance. Assume you meant to say "including".
No I mean all arrivals are into T5 excluding preclearance airports - for Canadian airports for example, they would all arrive into T1 but all other arrivals from airports without preclearance would arrive into T5. Hope that isn't too confusing.
Quoting LXA340 (Reply 6): Are aircraft docking to T5 to let passengers out and then relocated to their designated departure terminal?
No just AA and UA flights are moved to their respective terminals after off loading passengers at T5. The following airlines arrive AND depart T5:
Jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8725 times:
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
Arrivals (excluding Preclearance airports): Terminal 5, Departures: Terminal 1
AMSTERDAM (AMS) – Daily – Boeing 767-300 - c/s LH, SK, TP, US
ARUBA (AUA) – 1 weekly – Boeing 757-200
BEIJING (PEK) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 - c/s CA
CALGARY (YYC) – Daily – Boeing 737-500 c/s AC
CANCÚN (CUN) – 9 weekly – Airbus A320
FRANKFURT AM MAIN (FRA) – 2 daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, TK, TP
LONDON (LHR) – 3 daily – Boeing 767-300 c/s BD, LH, TG, TK
MEXICO CITY (MEX) – Daily (from June 4) – Airbus A320
MUNICH (MUC) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, TK
PARIS (CDG) – Daily – Boeing 777-200 c/s LH, US
PUERTO VALLARTA (PVR) – 1 weekly – Airbus A319
SAN JOSÉ DEL CABO (SJD) – 1 weekly – Airbus A319
SAN JUAN (SJU) – Daily – Airbus A320 c/s AC, US
SÃO PAULO (GRU) – Daily – Boeing 767-300 c/s JJ, US
SEOUL (ICN) via TOKYO (NRT) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s NH, TG, US
SHANGHAI (PVG) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s CA, FM
SINGAPORE (SIN) via HONG KONG (HKG) – Daily – Boeing 747-400 c/s US
TORONTO (YYZ) – 7 daily – Airbus A320/Boeing 737 c/s AC
VANCOUVER (YVR) – 5 daily – Airbus A319 c/s AC
AmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2610 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8644 times:
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 10): Doesn't United fly nonstop to HKG ? 744 daily.
Look closely - its in there
Quoting Kleinsim (Reply 11): Doesn't Lufthansa also do the gate dance of "unload T5, load T1"?
Yep it does.
Do airlines such as AA and UA get prepared for the turnaround at T5 or T3? Do they use T5 to load food fuel etc. and just load on passengers once their towed back to their "home" terminal? This would free up gate space if they did...
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21481 posts, RR: 24 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8632 times:
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 9): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
For UA you say "excluding preclearance airports", but show points in Canada (and Aruba) which have preclearance. Assume you meant to say "including".
No I mean all arrivals are into T5 excluding preclearance airports - for Canadian airports for example, they would all arrive into T1 but all other arrivals from airports without preclearance would arrive into T5. Hope that isn't too confusing.
Thanks. I misunderstood your preclearance reference.
Mke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2310 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8611 times:
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8515 times:
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 2): Countries like Canada or Aruba (and soon Ireland! ) which have pre-clearance facilities at their airports do not have to use T5 hence AC is located in T2.
Wait, so AA's DUB flight can soon arrive into T3 instead of T5? The couple times I have done this flight, I wondered why we had to clear at DUB, yet still deal with the pain of T5 arrival (and thus T3 transfer) upon arrival at ORD. Perhaps it's because technically we clear border control at DUB but not customs?
Alphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8446 times:
For some airlines it depends on their handling company...for most of the Star Alliance carriers such as LH, they are handled by UA so LH will arrive into T5 for the pax to clear customs and then UA will tow the aircraft to T1 for departure. The same is true for IB because they are handled by AA - arrival to T5 and then towed to T3 for departure.
However this is not always the case - SAS is a star alliance member and their flights arrive AND depart from T5 because they are handled by Continental. If UA or AA handled VS, VS would arrive at T5 but depart from either T1 or T3 respectively, but because they are handled by Swissport, VS arrived and departs from T5.
It can be a pain especially if you are arriving on a UA international flight and departing on a domestic UA flight.
AmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2610 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8395 times:
Quoting SW733 (Reply 15): Wait, so AA's DUB flight can soon arrive into T3 instead of T5? The couple times I have done this flight, I wondered why we had to clear at DUB, yet still deal with the pain of T5 arrival (and thus T3 transfer) upon arrival at ORD. Perhaps it's because technically we clear border control at DUB but not customs?
Well DUB won't be equipped with US CBP Preclearance until Terminal 2 opens (around April 2010) but Shannon (our other big airport) will open the new updated post in July meaning all passengers originating in SNN could theoretically arrive at any airport/terminal in the US without the need to clear immigration/customs etc.
I was wondering if, once DUB and SNN have the new facilities, airports such as ORD would transfer EI to another terminal (maybe T2 or T1 because of the EI/UA partnership) but after reading Alphaomega's reply I'm not too sure...
Quoting Alphaomega (Reply 16): If UA or AA handled VS, VS would arrive at T5 but depart from either T1 or T3 respectively, but because they are handled by Swissport, VS arrived and departs from T5.
EI are handled by Swissport so does that mean they'll stay at T5 once Ireland gets updated preclearance?
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2588 posts, RR: 31 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8364 times:
TK and RJ, and soon EY, all offer daily service to ORD????
Wow, the first two I mentioned have certainly increased their frequencies since I last checked...
Does AA no longer fly to MXP? What about Cayman Airways? And wasn't there a new Chinese carrier set to start ORD service?
Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
AmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2610 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8327 times:
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 18): Does AA no longer fly to MXP? What about Cayman Airways? And wasn't there a new Chinese carrier set to start ORD service?
No AA no longer fly to MXP. It was served by AZ until 2008 when AP took it over then AZ took over AP a and now no MXP. Cayman Airways operated to Grand Cayman seasonally only - Winter. Hainan Airways was to start service to PEK but cancelled it as mentioned above.
RIPCORDD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1022 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8232 times:
UA.AA unload pax/cargo/catering at Term 5 and they start to clean them but they have to pushed off Term 5 within 1hr otherwise the City charges them a huge fine for staying more than 1 hr.
Thanks for the update. Great info. However from 3 flights per week to 7 per week hardly qualifies as capacity reduction despite the smaller aircraft Plus, I can assure you, it will still be a mix of 330/340. TK does this all the time...
NAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8180 times:
Wow,
Just like in LAX it looks as if Mexicana is the largest Foreign flag Carrier. Does anyone
know how many passengers they carry on all their flights in and out of ORD?
Alphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8026 times:
Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 17): EI are handled by Swissport so does that mean they'll stay at T5 once Ireland gets updated preclearance?
EI is no longer handled by Swissport, and if they were pre-cleared, they would only move to the other terminals if AA or UA handled them. The only change would be the passengers do not go down to CBP, just empty straight into the terminal - now that I think about it, they might have to make some accommodations because I don't think you can get your baggage without going through CBP.
25 Tiger119: - I flew home from Nassau and they had U.S. Customs down there also David
26 LACA773: Thanks for posting all the great information, AmricanShamrok. FYI, MX routinely changes a/c on all flight according to loads each day i.e, on "1" the
27 Lfutia: So it is confirmed that MEX will be getting 738 svc on AA? It's so nice to see the 738's come back to ORD as opposed to the Super 80's. Also, it is wo
28 Airsrpska: Wow! As I can see, we have a 11 daily flights between LHR and ORD ! Four flights by AA , three by UA ,also three by BA and one by VS . I still can't b
29 Rajrs: Thanks for the complete information. Not 777-200, It is 777-300ER Rajrs.
30 AmricanShamrok: Who handles EI now? I think there's a baggage carosel in the non-secure side of the airport that USA3000 Airlines uses for domestic arrivals so that'
32 LimaMike: 1 addition to the list; AA 2x weekly 752 MONTEGO BAY.
33 A330243: Also, ANA arrive at T5 and depart out of T1, which I believe is a relatively recent change. I think the city and AA/UA will have to do something about
34 Alphaomega: EI is handled by GSI now - same company handling BA.
35 Carpethead: Not a recent change at all. Ever since they re-started their service, they have departed out of T1. Unfortunately, they aren't expanding the int'l te
36 AmricanShamrok: Where did you get that info? On the TravelDesk it says there are no direct flights ORD-MJB, only via Miami... I've seen this happen with BMI and Brit
37 Alphaomega: Air Jamaica operates a daily A321 to MBJ direct...
38 Cairo: ...down from 13 last summer. AA lost a frequency - down from 5. Air India also flew it, although less than weekly. Another change from last summer is
39 AmricanShamrok: Thanks! LimaMike said AA was operating ORD-MBJ...
40 IndyWA: Also forgot: UA Express ORD-YQB - Daily - E170
41 Alphaomega: I'm not sure if AA or anyone else operates a direct ORD-MBJ but I know for sure JM does daily, with the aircraft arriving into ORD at night and depar
42 LimaMike: Yes AA operates ORD-MBJ 2x weekly; Sat/Sun B757 (Flight #s 843/844). Flights began Jan 31 and were part of the agreement between AA and the Govt of J
43 Viscount724: In number of seats that may be correct but I think AC (including Jazz) has the highest frequency of any foreign carrier at ORD with 11 daily --.8 Emb
44 SCL767: AA will suspend ORD-MBJ in early March. AA will continue to fly DFW-MBJ 5x weekly. Also, both UA and USA3000 operate weekly flights to MBJ from ORD.