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ComAir 5191 Runway Permanently Closed @ LEX  
User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6668 times:

Runway 8/26 at LEX permanently closed this morning for the construction of a new runway which will be 9/27.

Story and Video: http://www.wlextv.com/global/story.asp?s=9840896


Does anyone know how long this runway will be? I don't really see the need for a new one and I doubt that the change in the heading will be much of a difference after all, runways are rounded up to the nearest 10 degrees.

What do you all (y'all) think?


I don't proclaim to be the best pilot in the world but I'm safe
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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6642 times:



Quoting Gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know how long this runway will be? I don't really see the need for a new one and I doubt that the change in the heading will be much of a difference after all, runways are rounded up to the nearest 10 degrees.

What do you all (y'all) think?

LEX has considerable traffic for an airport its size and it's needed for crosswind landings and takeoffs. I see the need very clearly personally. As for the headings, well that was needed so that the length could be added from what I understand.



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6329 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 1):
LEX has considerable traffic for an airport its size and it's needed for crosswind landings and takeoffs.

I understand what you're saying but I thought that the old runway did the job. I actually fly out of Lexington myself as a Private Pilot and have used 8/26 many a time.

Does anyone know how long the new runway will be? Can't seem to be able to find an answer.



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User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

According to this article, it's going to be only 500ft longer than the last at 4,000ft

http://www.kentucky.com/181/story/694031.html

Now I really don't get it.



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User currently offlineVIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6219 times:

According to Bluegrass airports master plan initially runway 9-27 is going to be a total length of 3,500ft with a future plan to become 5,000ft.
LEX-Chapter8.ALP.pdf" target="_blank"> Page 17 on the right give a run down (warning large file).
LEX_Preferred%20Crosswind%20Runway.pdf" target="_blank"> Overview of the final RWY configuration.

Really liked going to LEX, nice airport, city, people. Didn't hurt that the hotel my carrier put us up in was attached to Rump Area. To bad we don't do it out of ORD any more.

Vi



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6184 times:



Quoting Lexy (Reply 1):
LEX has considerable traffic for an airport its size and it's needed for crosswind landings and takeoffs. I see the need very clearly personally

ATL, LAX, MCO and numerous other major airports lack intersecting runways for crosswind operations.


User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6055 times:



Quoting VIflyer (Reply 4):
Rump Area

Rupp! Ha ha, some would hurt you around here for that mistake!

Quoting VIflyer (Reply 4):
To bad we don't do it out of ORD any more

American Eagle? If so the law of averages ought to suggest that you have probably flown me so thanks for delivering me safely.

I wish AA still offered that route, really messed up my travel itineraries.



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User currently offlineVIflyer From US Virgin Islands, joined May 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5801 times:



Quoting Gulfstream650 (Reply 6):
Rupp! Ha ha, some would hurt you around here for that mistake!

Yeah, yeah, I went to an ACC university, but on the redeamming side I'm an gator hater just like most of the whole SEC (I went to FSU if you haven't figured.)

Quoting Gulfstream650 (Reply 6):
American Eagle? If so the law of averages ought to suggest that you have probably flown me so thanks for delivering me safely.

As Ed McMahon would say "That is correct sir. HA! HA!" LEX was one of the routes that MQ dropped from ORD that I thought that the loads/yields were pretty good (only competition on the route was UALX and that was mainly a CR2) and they didn't give enough time to let the route mature. But it's out of my pay grade and not much I can do. Hopefully when conditions improve, maybe a return? Like i said it wasn't a poor performer and i think it had more to do with reallocation of aircraft than the route it self.

Vi



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User currently onlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2246 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5768 times:



Quoting Gulfstream650 (Thread starter):
I don't really see the need for a new one and I doubt that the change in the heading will be much of a difference after all, runways are rounded up to the nearest 10 degrees.

Longer is needed, and a slight realignment may call for a number change. The number change may have been coming anyway as variation changes.



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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2821 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5524 times:



Quoting VIflyer (Reply 4):
Didn't hurt that the hotel my carrier put us up in was attached to Rump Area.

That must have made for a much more interesting layover!  tongue 


User currently offlineComairGuyCVG From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3471 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 5):
ATL, LAX, MCO and numerous other major airports lack intersecting runways for crosswind operations.

And all those airports will be sorry if someday they experience high enough crosswinds that exceed the crosswind limitations of the aircraft, and they all have to divert to another airport. Or the departures will just have to wait til the winds die down.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21505 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3423 times:



Quoting ComairGuyCVG (Reply 10):
And all those airports will be sorry if someday they experience high enough crosswinds that exceed the crosswind limitations of the aircraft, and they all have to divert to another airport. Or the departures will just have to wait til the winds die down.

LAX is not going to be sorry. The cost of trying to put in even 1 cross wind runway at LAX for the off chance that the winds go against all historical data and come in strongly from the due south or due north are not worth it. It's much more cost effective to close the airport for the short period that this ever happens. Far less likely than fog, which closes the airport once in a while...



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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3365 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 5):
ATL, LAX, MCO and numerous other major airports lack intersecting runways for crosswind operations.

Crosswinds are not a major problem at any of these airports for the most part. Atleast not a large enough problem to build a new runway.



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineScramjetter From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2895 times:

The runway extension will give the smaller commuter sized aircraft, those that are more affected by crosswinds an added margin of safety. I'm thinking King Airs, 1900s, BE99s, etc., that could make it into a 3500 ft. runway before but now have a greater margin of safety.

User currently offlineDingDong From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Speaking of LEX... I haven't followed airport changes post-5191 too closely, but with this work, will it (or does it already) include taxiway and signage/lighting changes?


DingDong, honey, please answer the doorbell!
User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting DingDong (Reply 14):
but with this work, will it (or does it already) include taxiway and signage/lighting changes?

I believe that has already taken place. The changes that is. I may be wrong, but I think they changed everything around not long after the investigation was completed by the FAA.

While we are on the subject, the director of the airport in LEX and some of his cohorts are in deep hot water at the moment. Search the website www.kentucky.com for articles about the airport in the last couple of months and see what you get. Yeeesh!!!



Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
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