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AeroMexico: YUL-MEX 2 Weekly Starting May 2009?  
User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4952 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

A shocker..

AeroMexico has loaded a 2 weekly (Thu/Sun) YUL-MEX schedule. This on top of their recently announced daily YYZ service.

The schedule (AM681) is right on top of current existing daily departures with both Mexicana and Air Canada.

Surely this route is about to become a bloodbath.

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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Does AM fly to other cities in Canada?

User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3257 times:



Quoting Flyyul (Thread starter):
Surely this route is about to become a bloodbath.

Not really, Mexicana always does better on Interantional established routes. Only saving
grace would be if they do a direct code-share with AC.

Wish them well. Seems lately they have been retaliating for Mexicana entering Madrid and
GRU.


User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3178 times:

It is a redeye.......

Flight
AM 680
From: México, México To: Montreal, Canadá

thr 14 may, 2009 dep: 12:40AM arr: thr 14 may, 2009 7:00AM

Operated by: Aeroméxico Nonstop Boeing 737 Class: (V)



we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
User currently offlineSkywatcher From Canada, joined Sep 2002, 453 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3162 times:

When I was a kid AM operated a MEX-DTW-YUL flight 2 or 3 times per week on DC-8 equipment.
It's nice to hear some good news these days.


User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7530 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

This is very interesting news! Any idea what the lowest fares on each of AM, MX and AC look like?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3071 times:



Quoting LIPZ (Reply 1):
Does AM fly to other cities in Canada?

They are about to start a daily to YYZ.
They codeshare with JL to YVR.



Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineYVR1968 From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3057 times:



Quoting LIPZ (Reply 1):
Does AM fly to other cities in Canada?

They also fly weekly charter flights on behalf of Sunwing from YVR/YYC/YEG to CUN.


User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4952 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

So AM is going to fly 2 weekly red-eye with 737-700 vs. daily AC319 and 9/7 MX319?

Where is the logic? Unless this is a strictly a Farm worker's shuttle.. I dont see the business case, especially if its a red-eye flight.


User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7530 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2983 times:



Quoting Flyyul (Reply 8):
So AM is going to fly 2 weekly red-eye with 737-700 vs. daily AC319 and 9/7 MX319?

Where is the logic? Unless this is a strictly a Farm worker's shuttle.. I dont see the business case, especially if its a red-eye flight.

I agree that launching a route with only 2 weekly flights does not seem very auspicious. Business travelers will not be interested... and if one of the legs is a red-eye, less!!!

I would think that AM wants to test the waters and also wants to improve its aircraft utilization times. I really hope AM will succeed in its Canadian adventure and that eventually YUL frequencies can be increased.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2947 times:



Quoting Flyyul (Thread starter):
Surely this route is about to become a bloodbath.

Same for YYZ. I can't see the demand for 3 carriers operating dailies on YYZ-MEX. AM is advertising heavily in YYZ also.

Quoting Skywatcher (Reply 4):
When I was a kid AM operated a MEX-DTW-YUL flight 2 or 3 times per week on DC-8 equipment.

Also MEX-DTW-YYZ in the late 60's/early 70's. CP also flew YYZ-MEX with the DC-8-63 in the late 70's.

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 7):
They also fly weekly charter flights on behalf of Sunwing from YVR/YYC/YEG to CUN.

I think AM operates weekly charters into YYZ also this winter.

Quoting Flyyul (Reply 8):
Unless this is a strictly a Farm worker's shuttle..

I thought the farm workers were all located in SW Ontario? Are any destined for Quebec?



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7530 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Let's see, YYZ-MEX is what, like 750 seats per day now that AM has launched this route? You think this is too much offer?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

a bit off topic....

Does anyone know why -starting next week. AM57 NRT-MEX is a nonstop flight?
AM58 however, remains with the stop at TIJ.

I flew in from NRT yesterday, and we landed at TIJ as usual. But for my next trip in 2 weeks, schedule shows what I mentioned above.



we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2685 times:



Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 10):
Same for YYZ. I can't see the demand for 3 carriers operating dailies on YYZ-MEX. AM is advertising heavily in YYZ also.

I used to think that too, but couldn't it be that direct flights will take pax from US airlines? I know CO offers good fares on MEX-YUL connecting at EWR. Maybe if competition brings that the $700USD+ fares they could succeed.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11):
Let's see, YYZ-MEX is what, like 750 seats per day now that AM has launched this route? You think this is too much offer?

Exactly. I don't have the numbers but I'm under the impression that direct Mexico-Canada flights have room for growth.


User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2656 times:



Quoting AM744 (Reply 13):
Exactly. I don't have the numbers but I'm under the impression that direct Mexico-Canada flights have room for growth.

However AC has been downgrading YYZ-MEX for the last 3 years. From B767 to A320 and now A319.



we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5199 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2605 times:



Quoting Orbis (Reply 12):
Does anyone know why -starting next week. AM57 NRT-MEX is a nonstop flight? AM58 however, remains with the stop at TIJ.

Better aircraft utilization. Less delayed flights. More people happy to fly non-stop to MEX. Plus the cargo that once was the 25% on the TIJ-NRT-TIJ leg, has gone down dramatically to 8%, 2007 vs 2008, who knows why. If AM could, they would fly MEX-NRT-MEX and MEX-PVG-MEX.

Quoting Orbis (Reply 14):
However AC has been downgrading YYZ-MEX for the last 3 years. From B767 to A320 and now A319.

MEX was downgraded because AC had less frequencies. They reduced equipment but increased frequencies and at the same time seats on YUL and YYZ.

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24109 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2568 times:



Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 10):
CP also flew YYZ-MEX with the DC-8-63 in the late 70's.

During that period CP Air had scheduled service using DC-8s from YYZ to 4 cities in Mexico - MEX/ACA/GDL/PVR. The ACA flights stopped in MEX and the PVR flights stopped in GDL.


User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2259 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2541 times:



Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 10):

I thought the farm workers were all located in SW Ontario? Are any destined for Quebec?

They regularly fly into YQB for exactly that.

Thenoflyzone



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